Mini 521 (SMSM, Ended)

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

I haven't checked yet whether ssf sent in votes, but I'm currently leaning two of Sammich/Fiasco/DGB.

See my above methods of catching metascum. DGB replaced the first person of the game, who was actually a combination of two people. It would not surprise me if the Thorned Rose people were upset after getting two scum roles.

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

That was simenon

[Fiasco]

Moreover, it requires that one or two metascum be subscum, and in that case, why wasn't Pooky arguing for a town win?

Actually, the "why wasn't Pooky arguing for a town win" question makes no sense. But it's still true that the argument for Sarcastro as metascum depends on subscum metascum deciding on the kill, which is not a given.

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

Thorned Rose is unfortunately exempt from voting.

[Xdaamno]

Hm, I wish I paid more attention reading the game while dead (You can tell I'm dopey, I posted while killed ).

I'm instantly suspiscious of Pooky with the metagame talk here, though I'll need to read it again. Anyone got an idea of who I should be looking at, here?

[kabenon007]

If you were suspicious of Thorned Rose, SSF, and Simenon, why did you not as mafia throw the game then so you could vote for Thorned Rose?

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

If that was directed at me, I didn't throw the game because I wasn't suspicious of Thorned Rose yet; they had not given up.

[Sammich]

I'm surprised Waldo got off the hook.

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

That was a fun game, though. I have a new fondness for speed games.

[kabenon007]

Although... Adele is experienced enough... she should have known that if she put the third vote then a scum would hammer to win the game... so why would she do that? I think Adele could be scum as well... protecting one or more of her metascum partners that were subscum... if the town were to lose, we metatownies have a harder chance of hitting metascum, because we have more to choose from... so I think Adele is going to be on top of my list.

[Sarcastro]

That took bloody long enough.

Anyway, I must admit that I haven't put much thought into this game. I tried to keep up with what was happening, but I kind of lost track after the first couple game days. I did notice that Pooky wants to lynch me for being killed first in the subgame, which kind of makes sense. Has nothing better than that been suggested, though?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Who among the scum ordered the kill on Sarcastro

I want the answer from more than one source.

Basically who came up with the initial idea of killing Sarcastro?

@Adele, you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Adele you can criticize me for me upset that you guys didn't understand me, but you guys never told me that you didn't understand what I was saying, you just basically decided to ignore me.

@Fiasco, because I'm not completely certain that there is a metascum among the subscum, just like I'm not completely certain that you are metascum or that Sarcastro is metascum, however I do believe you and Sarc to be higher probability metascum than anyone else at the moment based on the motives I have pointed out.

If I go for the town win, I could lynch the Subscum who sent in the kill, but who would I use the other lynch on? one of his random partners?

My point is that IF there is metascum among the subscum, they are more likely to target Sarcastro, but if there are no metascum among the subscum, then the odds of hitting scum by lynching town suddenly jumps much higher and Sarcastro is as good as anyone else for a lynch to hit metascum.

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

First thing you should know, this is a Joint Account of JordanA24 and Aimee (Quite ironic both the Joint Accounts ended up in the scumteam, eh?).

I think the best kill would be Sarc, since when I've seen him, he's had a great scum sense IMO. Fiasco wouldn't be a bad kill either. Pooks will probably get doc protection, I get a feeling that if there is an SK, they'll kill Xdaamno.

What do you think? Please reply ASAP, since the deadline for choices is in 12 hours.

~Jordan

I do not mind killing either of them.

I was thinking Fiasco or Adele, but Xdaamno seems good...

-Flea

Of Sarc and Fiasco, I would personally prefer Fiasco, but otherwise I agree with all stated.

ThornedRose brought up Sarc and Fiasco; WWB wanted Xdaamno. We supported Xdaamno and fiasco (and for the rest of the night choices, my view was "just don't kill pooky)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

SARC AND FIASCO!?!?

WOW

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I want confirmation from WWB about Sarc/Fiasco.

[WaterboyWaldo]

Yeah, those are legit.

On the positive side, Hooray! I won the subgame. On the negative side, I still don't know how it will help me win the metagame :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It helps because we can lynch Sarc/Fiasco now.

I'm wagering Rose thought along the lines I highlighted and put down Sarc/Fiasco's names for her preferences for the nightkill because she is metascum with them.

She has never played another game on this site so I don't see why she would pick them on the information we have, she basically has no experience on this site and also the interaction in the pre-night phase wasn't enough for her to determine who should die, also she didn't even participate in that phase so I can't see her giving it that much weight if she didn't think it was worth talking in.

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

She has never played another game on this site so I don't see why she would pick them on the information we have, she basically has no experience on this site and also the interaction in the pre-night phase wasn't enough for her to determine who should die, also she didn't even participate in that phase so I can't see her giving it that much weight if she didn't think it was worth talking in.

First thing you should know, this is a Joint Account of JordanA24 and Aimee (Quite ironic both the Joint Accounts ended up in the scumteam, eh?).

[Xdaamno]

I'm looking at Sammich at the moment, since I haven't heard much from him.

Why Sarcastro?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oops.

I still think they are metascum together though.

[Fiasco]

Before you accuse me of "semantics" again, should I read that as "I think they are metascum together" or "I think they aren't metascum together, but they're a bit more likely to be metascum together than any given other pair"?

[DrippingGoofball]

I am here, just found the game.

Do I understand correctly:

We have metatownies and metascum.

And then for each subgame, regardless of meta-alignment, we have subtownies and subscum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I fail to see how the difference between the two would affect the situation in my PoV or in the town's.

[Xdaamno]

I fail to see how the difference between the two would affect the situation in my PoV or in the town's.

Am I not getting something, or did you just say "Me

or

the town"?