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CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
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White knighting here does make sense, although I think it's more that hoopla out of all people should know better.In post 2449, CloudKicker wrote:which makes no sens since you asked me to get hammered a bunch of time, either way its pretty inconsistent with your earlier reads-
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What about, hoop is town and hes right ? Even if its suboptimal to let me ''not-claim'' hes still actually right on me and BV is in the wrongIn post 2452, Raskolnikov wrote:
White knighting here does make sense, although I think it's more that hoopla out of all people should know better.In post 2449, CloudKicker wrote:which makes no sens since you asked me to get hammered a bunch of time, either way its pretty inconsistent with your earlier reads-
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Yes, but that involves reading a lot of Cloud's posts again, and would scum really want to do that?In post 2451, Raskolnikov wrote:But cloud if you genuinely softed your role like you said than scum probably already know it.
I tried to figure it out after he mentioned it and gave up pretty quickly.-
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BlackVoid Mafia Scum
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Hoopla has twice undermined the pro-town environment of this game. First she started encouraging this apples/oranges dichotomy. For a functioning town, you need people working together, not divided into their own camps because it makes it harder to get a lynch. Second, she bailed on stating intent to hammer after Cloud said he would claim if she did.
We shouldn't be having a conversation with people at L-1 explaining to them the benefits and pitfalls of claiming. By not making the process pretty much automatic, we created several pages of clutter and nonsense back and forth.-
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CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
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The original purpose of Cloud claiming was because he was suspicious enough to lynch. I (and I hope others see it too) now realise he's highly likely town, so there's no point continuing the claiming process if there's no intention to lynch there any more.In post 2457, BlackVoid wrote:Hoopla has twice undermined the pro-town environment of this game. First she started encouraging this apples/oranges dichotomy. For a functioning town, you need people working together, not divided into their own camps because it makes it harder to get a lynch. Second, she bailed on stating intent to hammer after Cloud said he would claim if she did.
We shouldn't be having a conversation with people at L-1 explaining to them the benefits and pitfalls of claiming. By not making the process pretty much automatic, we created several pages of clutter and nonsense back and forth.
You're just frustrated (or ignoring) that the way this information came to light was through Cloud's antitown behaviour.-
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BlackVoid Mafia Scum
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You are right that I'm frustrated. I think with his claim, I'll be able to get a much better picture of the gamestate. If his claim is believable, I can continue looking elsewhere without worry about connections to him. I can rest easy knowing that we're not letting a really cheeky scumbag slip away right in front of our noses by being blatantly pro-scum.In post 2460, Hoopla wrote:The original purpose of Cloud claiming was because he was suspicious enough to lynch. I (and I hope others see it too) now realise he's highly likely town, so there's no point continuing the claiming process if there's no intention to lynch there any more.
You're just frustrated (or ignoring) that the way this information came to light was through Cloud's antitown behaviour.
There's also the fact that he revels in trolling. I've genuinely invested myself into the game and put in my time to try to figure out the puzzle. He knows that him being purposefully obstructionist is just frustrating me. He's happy about that.
Even if you think he's more likely town, it would be much nicer if you could just make him claim to get it over with so I can refocus. Just help me out here. You claimed to be townreading me heavily after I derailed your lynch and went for Sotty7. Arona is clear. Jaack is clear and Jaack has been pretty tunneled in on Cloud.-
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BlackVoid Mafia Scum
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It's possible that he's town, yeah. But I also don't want to leave this half-done or just cave because he's trolling and refusing to claim. I'm just confused about why you are acting in a way that would cause more tension and frustration on both sides rather than just state intent again, get his claim, and move on.
Him concealing his role has very limited value and I don't think that value is higher than what we would get if we all have a concrete claim that we can analyze and also a sense a closure so we feel like we actually got something so we can reset and think about it.-
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BV; I do believe your town, and your anger at the situation has reinforced my town read on you, as I feel like it's genuine town anger and frustration. But you seem to be under the impression that I have the power to make him claim. It didn't work when he was at L-1 for ages and he has also ignored intent declarations. Do you really think any threats I make now (especially after he knows I think he's town) are going to convince him to claim?
It really feels like you're spiralling towards sunk cost fallacy territory and if you thought about it and tried to read him, you'd realise he's probably town. And if you do believe he's town, him full claiming doesn't really matter right now.-
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BV's tried to threaten throw shade at everyone when there not hammering cloud and then tries to backtrack early on about it holy shit can this guy eat rope yet?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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That woud be unfun tbhIn post 2471, BlackVoid wrote:@Hoopla, Creature - here's where you CAN do something. Vote Cloud and leave me with the hammer. The claim will come, trust me.-
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If you won't straight away hammer.In post 2471, BlackVoid wrote:@Hoopla, Creature - here's where you CAN do something. Vote Cloud and leave me with the hammer. The claim will come, trust me.Sigh
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