Hoopla's been a tough one to read right from the beginning. Sotty7In post 2197, Creature wrote:Was Hoopla's play today better?
I'm very interested in your opinion on Rask though.In post 2195, Creature wrote:I like getting opinions rather than making.In post 2192, Raskolnikov wrote:Coming to a compromise is one thing, but you being a lynch option doesn't mean you can't have an opinion.
Eh, unlike with GM or Maria there's nothing in her play thay seems very unlikely to come from scum. I do agree with rask that townhoopla is likely too useful to lynch on a weak readIn post 2200, BlackVoid wrote:Hoopla's been a tough one to read right from the beginning. Sotty7In post 2197, Creature wrote:Was Hoopla's play today better?wasbuddying her quite a bit though. I got excited for a moment where I thought she was making a fake-townslip about daytalk despite reading the rules but I don't know if that means anything. Like goodmorning, she got onto some bad wagons like the Jaack wagon yesterday but overall, I think she's town. Why? Do you have any reservations about her?
Trying to swing the lynch to IAI at the end of D2 is the main thing. The fact that that wagon never developed D2 despite a decent amount of people (myself included) being interested leads me to believe that scum had figured out he was the other mason and decided to not waste their time with that lynch.In post 2206, BlackVoid wrote: @Jaack, so what is it about GM that's unlikely to come from scum? There were a couple of things I noticed but I'm not sure if you are referring to the same points.
I don't think anyone will listen you that way.In post 2211, MariaR wrote:Creature and BV will forever be my 2 scumreads
<3333In post 2213, BlackVoid wrote:Okay, I'll double check my role PM if you flip town. I promise.
There was no counter wagon and then one on victor started so I got on it because I had a pretty decent sr on the slot if you want to out right tell me being worried that everyone was okay with a grey lynch was wrong then you can kiss my ass. Twoface said Scoty was the counter wagon and I ignored him because he was the only one voting Scoty so what he said was irrelevant at that point to meIn post 2190, BlackVoid wrote:
MariaR is the one I have no reason to believe is town so that's who I'd be most comfortable lynching. Saying you, me, and Jaack are scum is a pretty big stretch and I'm closer to thinking she's doing it to get towncred than because she actually buys what she's selling. There's also that D1 behavior where she complained about the GreyICE wagon (why is there no counterwagon? Is no one bothered???) Then TwoFace point-blank told her that Sotty7 was the counterwagon that was stalling. She didn't react to him and then moved onto Victor. But I haven't finished ISO'ing her either so more on this soon.
Then Hoopla switched from Jaack to GreyICE. Then you made the following posts:In post 825, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 850, MariaR wrote:I don't see any wagon really going off besides Grey like I don't see anything starting at allIn post 848, Hoopla wrote:It's called trying to further the game through compromise. Perhaps you and your crew sitting on the stale Sotty wagon should try it some time.In post 845, Raskolnikov wrote:I don't get talking to someone like this and then voting them to l-1 a bit later
Does that not worry you even a little?
In post 851, MariaR wrote:I mean sure there's been a bit of pull from this wagon but NOTHING else is starting and that seems really odd for scum.
TwoFace replies and you ignore him. All this while Sotty7 was the most viable counterwagon to GreyICE. You can't have missed it because TwoFace specifically pointed it out to you.In post 852, TwoFace wrote:The only other wagon that had potential was sotty which stalled many times. Hoopla even helped stall it.
Grey is town
You don't think Jaack is going anywhere so you joined Victor. But the elephant in the room you never talked about was Sotty7. You could have voted there to make her wagon viable.In post 857, MariaR wrote:It's not like we have less than 24 hours or something we have 3 days that's plenty of time to come up with a lynch I think the problem is everyones reads are very spread outIn post 855, Hoopla wrote:It does a little bit. If Grey is town, then I'd expect scum to be in the lurkers/people sitting on stale wagons content with the game state and not willing to put their neck on the line to further the game and put themselves in the limelight. Raskol, goodmorning, TwoFace spring to mind.In post 850, MariaR wrote:I don't see any wagon really going off besides Grey like I don't see anything starting at all
Does that not worry you even a little?
What other options do we have at this stage, though?
I don't think the jaack wagon is going anywhere today so I['ll go on this one
VOTE: Victor
I'm not sure why Rask voted here instead of trying to convince MariaR to join the Sotty7 wagon though. Based on his reads, he had Sotty7 as stronger scum than Victor.