Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[CloudKicker]

Hey guys, i have been super budy lately and im not totally sure i have the motivation to reread everything and then be confident about my vote, i am actively thinking about subbing out ill decide tomorow

[Creature]

Welp idk

[Creature]

I'll try to read Victor.

[Creature]

Okay, I don't oppose GI wagon.

[Creature]

but I actually like the Hoopla and IAI points?

[TwoFace]

When did she stall a good wagon? Or cast shade? Why is it you don’t bother quoting stuff and then when I look through player’s ISOs I can’t find anything to back up what your saying?

You obviously aren't trying very hard. Here let me show you

Here is where I say which wagon she stalled. It's actually not my first comment cause I've said a couple of times that bbt was the counter to sotty. Twice sotty was at 4 votes and attention got diverted to bbt for some reason

The only other wagon that had potential was sotty which stalled many times. Hoopla even helped stall it.

Grey is town

Funny that accuse me of not reading and yet you obviously not reading/comprehending/thinking about what I'm posting.

I'm asking where Hoopla stalled the Sotty wagon. Obviously I'm not asking that as a random question. I've read you say that Hoopla stalled the wagon. I don't need you to requote you saying that Hoopla stalled it. What I'm saying is that it didn't happen. Hoopla is not the reason Sotty isn't getting lynched.

Here is her casting shade

It does a little bit. If Grey is town, then I'd expect scum to be in the lurkers/people sitting on stale wagons content with the game state and not willing to put their neck on the line to further the game and put themselves in the limelight. Raskol, goodmorning, TwoFace spring to mind.

2 of the 3 people are voting the wagon she stalled earlier.

All of these were on the same page man. The same fucking page!!!

Specuating about where scum might be is a long way from casting shade. Particularly since this was in response to Maria's question about why an alternative to the Grey wagon wasn't going off.

Sorry when im repeating things I've said previously (stalled wagons) or responding to a recent post (casting shade) I have this unrealistic expectation that people will actually read the posts being made and not lie about not seeing them when they are right there in their face. I'm sorry I made that mistake. I won't assume you have the ability to read posts being made even though it's sort of a requirement of the game.

Funny you accuse me of stupidity (not being able to read), laziness (not trying to read) and lying (apparently seeing the posts, reading them but then pretending not to).

Sorry I'm not going to help you be lazy. I've already explained how she stalled it. So go look at the VCs and see where sotty had 4 votes with hoopla on it. Then go forward and see her switching to bbt for a bad reason. And you'll see her stalling the sotty wagon. She's also been trying to downplay the sotty wagon trying to act like the resistance against it doesn't mean he's scum which is actually the opposite of almost every scum lynch I've seen. Strong resistance usually means scum. The fact she doesn't recognize that is sketchy.

I disagree about your comment about speculating.

[TwoFace]

If victor gets to l-1 I'll hammer. If he's town he doesn't read well and is a liability. If he's scum well I can actually see a sotty/hoopla/victor team and yes I'm a little crazy

In fact, why aren't you voting me already.

Votecount 1.13

GreyICE (6)

Sotty7 , MichelSableheart , VictorDeAngelo , I Am Innocent , Hoopla , BlackVoid L-1,

MichelSableheart (1)

CloudKicker

VictorDeAngelo (5)

goodmorning , GreyICE , MariaR , Raskolnikov , Jaack L-2,

Sotty7 (1)

TwoFace ,

Not Voting (1)

CloudKicker ,

Day one deadline is Thursday November 3, 8 AM PST. (expired on 2016-11-03 08:00:00)

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

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No way you didn't see this on the previous page.

No way you still believe a Sotty wagon is happening. You have said repeatedly you want me more than GreyICE. Why are you so keen to wait for me to get to L-1 exactly?

You aren't at L-1 yet. That's why I'm not voting you

[Creature]

Hopefully tomorrow I can get better reads.

VOTE: GreyICE

[TwoFace]

TwoFace making it clear he's only prepared to vote me if I get to L-1 is made me rethink.

That's a dumb reason to make you want to rethink things.

[TwoFace]

Two Face

Ugh.

I want want want to say town. I want to want to want to. The only thing is if Victor is scum and he's scum then he's painted himself into a corner where he just has to sit and hope I get hammered. Which is... exactly what he's doing, while saying victor is a fine lynch. But man, every bone in my body yells active, engaged town. Town in a deep tunnel though. Err...

Geez. Okay, so what we have here is a lot of things that individually make me say town, while general positioning says its easy to fake being in a tunnel all day. But... he's new to this site, he's in one other game that's ongoing and therefore I couldn't discuss it. But honestly, I think he leans town here.

I dunno. Welcome to me actually going into this wanting to say one thing and just not being able to. I still really feel he's town, but this is not where I thought it would be. I'd put down $20 on town, but not $200.

I'll make things easier for you.

1. I'm not scum. I'm not waiting for someone to hammer you either. I'm hoping whatwver dumb ass townies who are voting you will see there's almost no way you can be scum. I find it funny that I complain there is no resistance to your lynch and magically resistance forms out of nowhere. Luckily for me this new wagon is somebody I'm already scum reading so I'm not changing my stance that you're probably town here.
2. I'm an alt, I'm not new.

[TwoFace]

Hopefully tomorrow I can get better reads.

VOTE: GreyICE

Did you ever do your victor read like you said you'd do?

[BlackVoid]

Okay, Creature is scum. He tried to quickhammer GreyICE (though his predecessor had his vote there already so he blew it). I don't get how he goes from {Victor, Jaack, IAI, Sotty, goodmorning} to "Okay, I don't oppose GI wagon." after GreyICE's towniest posts nor do I think he would "hammer" before getting any reads with more than 24 hours on the clock.

Can we lynch Creature? I think he panicked when I said he was scum with Sotty7 and MariaR.

[Creature]

I already knew my predecessor had his vote on GreyICE.

[Creature]

Hopefully tomorrow I can get better reads.

VOTE: GreyICE

Did you ever do your victor read like you said you'd do?

Looks town.

[BlackVoid]

I already knew my predecessor had his vote on GreyICE.

Then why would cast a redundant vote?

[Creature]

Wanted to see how he would react.

[Creature]

Also, if you want to push another wagon, I can help you (if it's not on me).

[TwoFace]

Hopefully tomorrow I can get better reads.

VOTE: GreyICE

Did you ever do your victor read like you said you'd do?

Looks town.

Well that would make 2 unexplained 180s so can you explain them both? You had bbt/ice as townish and victor as scum and now you don't.

[BlackVoid]

Okay, it might be nothing. It's 4:30 AM for me and I don't know why I suddenly woke up in the middle of the night and checked this game. But what made you suddenly change your read on GreyICE?

[Creature]

I still have BBT/GI as "townish"

Victor is a meta read (though the last game he played scum is old, so not accurate).

[Creature]

I am actually seeing how others are reading him.

[Creature]

Is a lurker!IAI common?

[Sotty7]

I re-read vic and his points on greyice's read-progression are actually alright.

But COUNTERWAGON, plus your almost guaranteeing Grey gets lynched.

I'm on my way out the door to work so I'll look read Grey's reads later on.

[mhsmith0]

I've got a minor business emergency so I'll be sitewide v/la until sometime Friday, so with that in mind and per request I'll extend until 8am friday morning pacific. I'll try and still pop in with VC tonight and tomorow night.

[mhsmith0]

Day one deadline is Friday November 4, 8 AM PST. (expired on 2016-11-04 08:00:00)