Lets be honest, was there any other appropriate reaction to your comment about me that essentially boiled down toIn post 722, goodmorning wrote:@hoopla: ah, the jokes are back again hmk
Sooooo... all I need is for BV to find 9 scum reads and 3 town reads and I think we've got this game in the bag.In post 719, BlackVoid wrote:So, the more I think about this, GM is probably town. I do like her points on Jaack and I think the emotional push on Victor looked townish which means my scumteam theory is probably wrong. There was also something about the way Jaack was grilling MariaR that gave me townvibes.
Making a note to myself to look at Grey/Rask/Hoopla interactions. All of them are weird and there might be something there. The Rask/Hoopla early game cases on each other + Rask voting Sotty7 after he called her scum with BBT and then defending GreyICE + Hoopla's unvote of an L-1 wagon with intent to hammer. There's something there and I need to figure out if that's the team. That's my new working theory.
If you're going to stop ignoring me, then why not respond to my questions in 320 about BBT?In post 722, goodmorning wrote:
p-edit @ victor:(in response to sotty asking for a very condensed version)In post 354, goodmorning wrote:Victor's entrance was scummier than anyone else's (including IAI's, while we're going there); it came near the bottom of p2, when there was plenty to comment on, yet he dropped an RV and left. Currently, he's playing the semantic game he accuses others of playing, misrepping Hoopla, refusing to provide much useful content, and attempting to infuriate me.
mmmmk.
Because I genuinely have no read on him. If you pointed a gun at me I'd guess scum. There's just too many contradictions in a bad way. But then he goes and follows up on a point or something and I feel better. But like things like this grate:In post 717, MariaR wrote:F is for friends who do stuff together-Aw fine
Do you want to talk to Michael cause you think he's town or just wanna hear what he's gotta say
In post 302, MichelSableheart wrote:I'm very concerned with how other players perceive me, so I make sure to make my thoughts as explicit as I possibly can. That way, players see I'm coming from a town mindset.
REALLY FUCKING EXPLICIT THOUGHTS THERE AMRIGHT? OH NO WAIT ITS TRANSPARENT AS LEADIn post 77, MichelSableheart wrote: Also, looking over goodmorning's ISO, I don't see a lot there that's making me feel good about the slot. Better bandwagon then Rask, IMO.
Vote: goodmorning
No one's attempting to infuriate you, your just getting yourself angry because, well, to be honest I don't get what your so angry about. Could it be because I got your number so early?In post 723, goodmorning wrote:ftr genuinely trying to infuriate someone is a huge scumtell imo
because it's a really anti-town action but you can pretend it's not your fault
The fact people townread this **** shocks me behind beliefIn post 730, VictorDeAngelo wrote:No one's attempting to infuriate you, your just getting yourself angry because, well, to be honest I don't get what your so angry about. Could it be because I got your number so early?In post 723, goodmorning wrote:ftr genuinely trying to infuriate someone is a huge scumtell imo
because it's a really anti-town action but you can pretend it's not your fault
So you don't want to respond to anything else I said?In post 731, GreyICE wrote:I'd like to nominate the post above me as the single most fake post in this thread.
Funnily enough, it wouldn't shock me if you found this exact exchange in a past game of mine.MariaR wrote:That's like If I said
I'm really sad today guys
Person B: Are you sad because I sr you and you're mafia!
Sure. Lets see. Hmmm.In post 737, VictorDeAngelo wrote:So you don't want to respond to anything else I said?In post 731, GreyICE wrote:I'd like to nominate the post above me as the single most fake post in this thread.
Oh hang on, what you weren't saying that my comments were a stretch, but you were simply demonstrated reading comprehension. Did you really think I was asking you to summarise what I said?In post 741, GreyICE wrote:You're a broken record. Stretching! Read more! Stretching! I mean I'm proud you found a thesaurus and discovered reaching was a synonym for stretching but your response sucked. And now you're trying to taunt me.
Where did you get the impression I was uncomfortable with where I stand? Ditto on the getting townreads statement. If you really think you're going to push a Victor wagon, you might want to check the thread to see if there's anything to justify your statements.I seriously wanted sableheart to chat because I don't like some of his stuff, but you're uncomfortable with where you stand. It's predictable, the only things you've really cared about is other people's town reads (getting your own scum reads pushed at all is a distant second) but if you're not going to sit patiently, then I'll cram a wagon down your throat and talk to sableheart too. It'll be multitasking.
Let's chat. I hate falling behind and when I have to read 25 pages in 2 days I basically pulled out a piece of paper and note any positive or negative post that I notice. Two columns.In post 684, Hoopla wrote:I think the ease with which this BBT/Grey wagon has powered along with virtually no opposition is throwing me off. This has been compounded recently by IAI's L-1 vote, Cloud's willingness to hammer it, and everyone pretty much sitting on their hands mildly content with the proceedings. No Jack has sprung up despite interest in it. There have been vague rumblings about the BBT/Grey wagon from Maria and Rask, but nobody is going WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD ON A SECOND HERE.
So... I am confused. And I'd like to see what Grey says. And I'd like IAI to come in here and explain his reads and have a chat with me.
Once again read pick your power day 2. Good hustle by GI is NAI.In post 743, Hoopla wrote:This has been a good hustle by Grey so far. He's really doing his slot proud, but I'm still not sold on Victor scum, sooooo I'm just gonna chill on the Jack wagon for a while...
Jack is a really good vote that hoopla, maria, blackvoid, myself have all expressed suspicion of...yet votes victor.In post 602, GreyICE wrote:IAIs ISO is a teenage wasteland. I'll be caught up soon! Uh huh. Obviously it's bad. Not enough to motivate me to lynch day 1, but an acceptable vig target.
Jack is... a good vote. A really good vote. His posts are just fake feeling and shallow. Like reading from a script.
Maria is town.
I've never played with MichaelSableheart before. We're going to press all each other's buttons. I think he's town though.
Rask is town. Sotty town. Two face town. Victor scum.
Huh I have too many town reads. Unless it is Victor/Jack/IAI. Feels wrong.
In post 602, GreyICE wrote:IAIs ISO is a teenage wasteland. I'll be caught up soon! Uh huh. Obviously it's bad. Not enough to motivate me to lynch day 1, but an acceptable vig target.
Jack is... a good vote. A really good vote. His posts are just fake feeling and shallow. Like reading from a script.
Maria is town.
I've never played with MichaelSableheart before. We're going to press all each other's buttons. I think he's town though.
Rask is town. Sotty town. Two face town. Victor scum.
Huh I have too many town reads. Unless it is Victor/Jack/IAI. Feels wrong.
What happened between these posts that had Michel going from town to not liking some of his stuff?In post 741, GreyICE wrote:You're a broken record. Stretching! Read more! Stretching! I mean I'm proud you found a thesaurus and discovered reaching was a synonym for stretching but your response sucked. And now you're trying to taunt me.
I seriously wanted sableheart to chat because I don't like some of his stuff, but you're uncomfortable with where you stand. It's predictable, the only things you've really cared about is other people's town reads (getting your own scum reads pushed at all is a distant second) but if you're not going to sit patiently, then I'll cram a wagon down your throat and talk to sableheart too. It'll be multitasking.
...esp since this is his last post which was BEFORE ur town read of him.In post 555, MichelSableheart wrote:I've skimmed everything, but have thoroughly read the first 6 pages.
It seems that part of my feelings for goodmorning were caused by skimming. Posts like #112 do have solid content buried within the fluff, but that's not immediately obvious when skimming.
Such implicit content seems slightly more likely to come from town then from scum, as they're generally somewhat less concerned with how they're perceived. Therefore:
Unvote
BBT is not a bad wagon. The way he asks rask for scum ON the wagon immediately after unvoting in #97 seems like a calculated way to focus attention on others for something he did as well.
Vote: BlueBloodedToffee
Noting that Jaack and BBT are unlikely to be scumpartners, as I feel the interaction in #97, #101 and #102 is a 1-2 punch that scum wouldn't set up that early in the game. Scum would be more likely to keep a bit of distance, to safe the coordinated attack for when it's more impactful.
My unvote was to prevent any cheeky premature hammers, as we still hadn't squeezed much information out of Grey yet.In post 744, I Am Innocent wrote:Just curious hoopla, why the unvote, esp when a claim request was made? Did your read change?
My read on the slot hasn't really changed, but Grey is providing good value IF he's town, so I'm okay with letting him live a bit longer and maybe nail a scumbag or two if he's town. I feel like this might be a controversial position, but I really don't think there's that much difference percentage-wise between most of the viable lynches to be scum (even the best players aren't that much better than random on D1, imo). As such, I factor in value to the town into my D1 choices, and Grey has value if he's town -- whereas we don't lose as much if we're wrong about Jack.In post 745, I Am Innocent wrote:Once again read pick your power day 2. Good hustle by GI is NAI.
Reread BBT and you'll get your answer.