Mini 1830 - Game Over

House · Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:04 pm

I not going to bother reading anymore of this game until town sprouts a little bit of brains and backs away from L-1 this early in the fucking day.

I don't care if you have a cop guilty on somebody, you still don't lynch this fast. And we DON'T have a cop guilty.

What we have is a bunch of people that would rather sheep scum onto town d1 and have to be compelled to vote scum.

What we have is a PR that doesn't watch the claimed PR and says he'll flip blue.

What we have, ladies and gentlemen, is a roster of superficial thinkers that believe they have all the answers. Yes, myself included.

That is why we have no business cutting this Day short!

Manuel87 · Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:21 pm

UNVOTE:

Manuel87 · Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:30 pm

In post 1700, House wrote: That is why we have no business cutting this Day short!

Thats what i said yesterday and then the lolhammer came on Friday night

without Victor having a chance to explain.

I would consider The_Jester over Gamma but you need to explain why you think Gamma is town.

House · Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:51 pm

In post 1702, Manuel87 wrote:I would consider The_Jester over Gamma but you need to explain why you think Gamma is town.

Gamma has made some stupid mistakes.

Hey, he's new. Shit happens.

But I don't see scum intent in his posts.

d1, he was screwing around with, what looks in retrospect, a person he knew from another mafia site. That just happened to be scum.

Victim of circumstance that I mistook for damning association.

I'm the one that pushed him onto selling a Victor lynch, because I had decided d1 that Victor was playing way too conservatively for his town game. That's me.

Gamma actually made a very good point about Victor in his case, one that I really could not see as something that town would say when jumping off a scum wagon.

He voted Victor. So what? So did the majority of the player list. He wanted CCC that day, but I basically gladiated him and Victor. Blame me for that. Not him.

This is what I can't get past though... I can't see scum!Gamma leaving ME alive over Grendel.

I've already proven I could ram through lynches. If already proven time and again I wanted Gamma dead... ISO ME!

Last night's kill was an attempt to get me to ram through my pet Gamma lynch that I'd been nursing all game long.

gerryoat · Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:26 pm

In post 1691, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually: Gerry Huntress Manuel Jester CCC I suggest you all do color coded reads too.

I hope I do this right lol, if i mess up the colors i'll just repost with the colors written out in words

House

Manuel

CCC

Huntress

Jester

gamma

I think I've explained most of my reads already, but if anyone has any questions, lemme know.

gerryoat · Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:27 pm

@Manuel, why do you TR huntress so much? What has she even done to be townread? Am I missing something?

Manuel87 · Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:38 pm

In post 1703, House wrote: Gamma has made some stupid mistakes.
Hey, he's new. Shit happens.
But I don't see scum intent in his posts.

You see the main reason i think he is scum is his vote on me when he had a scumread on eager and a townread on me. I think he never really explained how he came to the conclusion that i am scum.

In post 1703, House wrote: d1, he was screwing around with, what looks in retrospect, a person he knew from another mafia site. That just happened to be scum.
Victim of circumstance that I mistook for damning association.

Ok fair point but that still doesnt really explain his vote on me.

In post 1703, House wrote: I'm the one that pushed him onto selling a Victor lynch, because I had decided d1 that Victor was playing way too conservatively for his town game. That's me.
Gamma actually made a very good point about Victor in his case, one that I really could not see as something that town would say when jumping off a scum wagon.
He voted Victor. So what? So did the majority of the player list. He wanted CCC that day, but I basically gladiated him and Victor. Blame me for that. Not him.

I dont really blame him for the Victor lynch i think his case wasnt bad and Victor not watching claimed PR made his watcherclaim look fake so i understand the votes.
The hammer is an entirely different thing though.

In post 1703, House wrote: This is what I can't get past though... I can't see scum!Gamma leaving ME alive over Grendel.
I've already proven I could ram through lynches. If already proven time and again I wanted Gamma dead... ISO ME!
Last night's kill was an attempt to get me to ram through my pet Gamma lynch that I'd been nursing all game long.

I dont know about that one to be honest. Grendel would have voted Gamma for sure.
You have also proven to drop scumreads so there still was a chance for him if he keeps you alive.

I will wait for Jester to convince me why we shouldnt lynch him over Gamma.

@Gerry: Like i said her vote on eager was one of the reasons why the lynch on him was even possible. No way she would have voted him if she was his scumbuddy. She could have voted Square or stayed on CCC instead.

House · Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:07 am

In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:The hammer is an entirely different thing though.

Gamma didn't hammer Victor...

House · Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:08 am

In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:You have also proven to drop scumreads

Really?

What scumreads have I dropped before today.

Name one.

Eggman · Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:21 am

Vote Count 3.01

The_Jester

: Gamma Emerald, House

Gamma Emerald

: The_Jester, gerryoat

With 7 players alive, it takes

4

players for a lynch.
The deadline for this day is (expired on 2016-10-17 14:00:00).

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:36 am

Manuel, I thought Eager had a good connection and I figured you were the more likely scum. I didn't consider the fact it was my scumread that said it. In the wise words of boring, "[Gamma]'s a more logical thinker, so it was easier for the two of us to seduce him with sound, rational arguments".

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:37 am

That came from another game's postgame FYI

House · Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:05 am

How is it relevant to this one?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:08 am

I was seduced by Eager's rational case.

Manuel87 · Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:24 am

In post 1713, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was seduced by Eager's rational case.

Eagers case wasnt rational he had no valid argument against me.

In post 1708, House wrote:
In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:You have also proven to drop scumreads
Really?
What scumreads have I dropped before today.
Name one.

You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.

In post 1707, House wrote:
In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:The hammer is an entirely different thing though.
Gamma didn't hammer Victor...

Yes this wasnt against Gamma. Just that i dont excuse Jesters hammer based an Victors play. Sadly with the quick lolhammer the other votes on Victor dont give much information because he didnt have the chance to explain himself.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:29 am

Well I was able to form a case based on the garbage Eager had presented. Anyway, Manuel is now a townread of mine since Eager flipped scum.

House · Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:39 am

In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.

Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?

Manuel87 · Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:55 am

In post 1716, House wrote:
In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.
Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?

Well you didnt townread him yesterday but you had him Null and i think you said that you dont care about him anymore or something like that.

House · Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:29 am

In post 1717, Manuel87 wrote:
In post 1716, House wrote:
In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.
Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?
Well you didnt townread him yesterday but you had him Null and i think you said that you dont care about him anymore or something like that.

Let's make sure I have this straight.

You are saying that Gamma!scum would leave the guy that wagoned began scumreading him d1 and harassed the shit out of him d2, that has every desire AND THE POWER to lynch him, alive... instead of a player that has a scumread on him but admits himself that he is unable to lead lynches?

This is what you want me to believe? That I'm less of a threat to Gamma than GRENDEL because one read changed?

THAT is your theory?

Manuel87 · Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:58 am

In post 1718, House wrote:
In post 1717, Manuel87 wrote:
In post 1716, House wrote:
In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.
Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?
Well you didnt townread him yesterday but you had him Null and i think you said that you dont care about him anymore or something like that.
Let's make sure I have this straight.
You are saying that Gamma!scum would leave the guy that wagoned began scumreading him d1 and harassed the shit out of him d2, that has every desire AND THE POWER to lynch him, alive... instead of a player that has a scumread on him but admits himself that he is unable to lead lynches?
This is what you want me to believe? That I'm less of a threat to Gamma than GRENDEL because one read changed?
THAT is your theory?

Yeah that sounds about right but i wouldnt say you are less of a threat but your read can change. Grendel was on Gamma since early day one and never dropped his read.
I say with you dead today Gamma would have been lynched for sure.

Ill do a metacheck on Gamma when i have some time.

also a quick reminder cause i think you missed those.
@House why do you scumread Huntress and why do you lean town on Gerry?

House · Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:06 am

In post 1719, Manuel87 wrote:Ill do a metacheck on Gamma when i have some time.

I think you should read me too, because I've been pushing Gamma with a bulldozer the entire game.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:07 am

One sec: I'll help that meta check.

House · Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:08 am

In post 1719, Manuel87 wrote:@House why do you scumread Huntress and why do you lean town on Gerry?

She's done a whole lot of nothing.

It's quite possible her vote on eager was bad distancing that she got caught up in and couldn't justifiably leave the wagon after I started pushing him.

As I said, gerry is my weakest town read, but he's done considerably more than my scum reads.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:09 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67979
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68310
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68156
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68495
All completed games of mine.

gerryoat · Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:02 pm

Still waiting for Jester, CCC and Huntress' color coded reads