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I not going to bother reading anymore of this game until town sprouts a little bit of brains and backs away from L-1 this early in the fucking day.
I don't care if you have a cop guilty on somebody, you still don't lynch this fast. And we DON'T have a cop guilty.
What we have is a bunch of people that would rather sheep scum onto town d1 and have to be compelled to vote scum.
What we have is a PR that doesn't watch the claimed PR and says he'll flip blue.
What we have, ladies and gentlemen, is a roster of superficial thinkers that believe they have all the answers. Yes, myself included.
That is why we have no business cutting this Day short!-
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Thats what i said yesterday and then the lolhammer came on Friday night without Victor having a chance to explain.In post 1700, House wrote: That is why we have no business cutting this Day short!
I would consider The_Jester over Gamma but you need to explain why you think Gamma is town.-
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Gamma has made some stupid mistakes.In post 1702, Manuel87 wrote:I would consider The_Jester over Gamma but you need to explain why you think Gamma is town.
Hey, he's new. Shit happens.
But I don't see scum intent in his posts.
d1, he was screwing around with, what looks in retrospect, a person he knew from another mafia site. That just happened to be scum.
Victim of circumstance that I mistook for damning association.
I'm the one that pushed him onto selling a Victor lynch, because I had decided d1 that Victor was playing way too conservatively for his town game. That's me.
Gamma actually made a very good point about Victor in his case, one that I really could not see as something that town would say when jumping off a scum wagon.
He voted Victor. So what? So did the majority of the player list. He wanted CCC that day, but I basically gladiated him and Victor. Blame me for that. Not him.
This is what I can't get past though... I can't see scum!Gamma leaving ME alive over Grendel.
I've already proven I could ram through lynches. If already proven time and again I wanted Gamma dead... ISO ME!
Last night's kill was an attempt to get me to ram through my pet Gamma lynch that I'd been nursing all game long.-
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In post 1691, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually: Gerry Huntress Manuel Jester CCC I suggest you all do color coded reads too.
I hope I do this right lol, if i mess up the colors i'll just repost with the colors written out in words
House
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I think I've explained most of my reads already, but if anyone has any questions, lemme know.-
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You see the main reason i think he is scum is his vote on me when he had a scumread on eager and a townread on me. I think he never really explained how he came to the conclusion that i am scum.In post 1703, House wrote: Gamma has made some stupid mistakes.
Hey, he's new. Shit happens.
But I don't see scum intent in his posts.
Ok fair point but that still doesnt really explain his vote on me.In post 1703, House wrote: d1, he was screwing around with, what looks in retrospect, a person he knew from another mafia site. That just happened to be scum.
Victim of circumstance that I mistook for damning association.
I dont really blame him for the Victor lynch i think his case wasnt bad and Victor not watching claimed PR made his watcherclaim look fake so i understand the votes.In post 1703, House wrote: I'm the one that pushed him onto selling a Victor lynch, because I had decided d1 that Victor was playing way too conservatively for his town game. That's me.
Gamma actually made a very good point about Victor in his case, one that I really could not see as something that town would say when jumping off a scum wagon.
He voted Victor. So what? So did the majority of the player list. He wanted CCC that day, but I basically gladiated him and Victor. Blame me for that. Not him.
The hammer is an entirely different thing though.
I dont know about that one to be honest. Grendel would have voted Gamma for sure.In post 1703, House wrote: This is what I can't get past though... I can't see scum!Gamma leaving ME alive over Grendel.
I've already proven I could ram through lynches. If already proven time and again I wanted Gamma dead... ISO ME!
Last night's kill was an attempt to get me to ram through my pet Gamma lynch that I'd been nursing all game long.
You have also proven to drop scumreads so there still was a chance for him if he keeps you alive.
I will wait for Jester to convince me why we shouldnt lynch him over Gamma.
@Gerry: Like i said her vote on eager was one of the reasons why the lynch on him was even possible. No way she would have voted him if she was his scumbuddy. She could have voted Square or stayed on CCC instead.-
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Gamma didn't hammer Victor...In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:The hammer is an entirely different thing though.-
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Really?In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:You have also proven to drop scumreads
What scumreads have I dropped before today.
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Manuel, I thought Eager had a good connection and I figured you were the more likely scum. I didn't consider the fact it was my scumread that said it. In the wise words of boring, "[Gamma]'s a more logical thinker, so it was easier for the two of us to seduce him with sound, rational arguments".<Embrace The Void>
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Eagers case wasnt rational he had no valid argument against me.In post 1713, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was seduced by Eager's rational case.
You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.In post 1708, House wrote:
Really?In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:You have also proven to drop scumreads
What scumreads have I dropped before today.
Name one.
Yes this wasnt against Gamma. Just that i dont excuse Jesters hammer based an Victors play. Sadly with the quick lolhammer the other votes on Victor dont give much information because he didnt have the chance to explain himself.In post 1707, House wrote:
Gamma didn't hammer Victor...In post 1706, Manuel87 wrote:The hammer is an entirely different thing though.-
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Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.-
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Well you didnt townread him yesterday but you had him Null and i think you said that you dont care about him anymore or something like that.In post 1716, House wrote:
Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.-
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Let's make sure I have this straight.In post 1717, Manuel87 wrote:
Well you didnt townread him yesterday but you had him Null and i think you said that you dont care about him anymore or something like that.In post 1716, House wrote:
Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.
You are saying that Gamma!scum would leave the guy that wagoned began scumreading him d1 and harassed the shit out of him d2, that has every desire AND THE POWER to lynch him, alive... instead of a player that has a scumread on him but admits himself that he is unable to lead lynches?
This is what you want me to believe? That I'm less of a threat to Gamma than GRENDEL because one read changed?
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Yeah that sounds about right but i wouldnt say you are less of a threat but your read can change. Grendel was on Gamma since early day one and never dropped his read.In post 1718, House wrote:
Let's make sure I have this straight.In post 1717, Manuel87 wrote:
Well you didnt townread him yesterday but you had him Null and i think you said that you dont care about him anymore or something like that.In post 1716, House wrote:
Where did I show a townread on CCC before today?In post 1714, Manuel87 wrote:You droped your push on CCC and are townreading him now.
You are saying that Gamma!scum would leave the guy that wagoned began scumreading him d1 and harassed the shit out of him d2, that has every desire AND THE POWER to lynch him, alive... instead of a player that has a scumread on him but admits himself that he is unable to lead lynches?
This is what you want me to believe? That I'm less of a threat to Gamma than GRENDEL because one read changed?
THAT is your theory?
I say with you dead today Gamma would have been lynched for sure.
Ill do a metacheck on Gamma when i have some time.
also a quick reminder cause i think you missed those.
@House why do you scumread Huntress and why do you lean town on Gerry?-
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I think you should read me too, because I've been pushing Gamma with a bulldozer the entire game.In post 1719, Manuel87 wrote:Ill do a metacheck on Gamma when i have some time.-
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She's done a whole lot of nothing.In post 1719, Manuel87 wrote:@House why do you scumread Huntress and why do you lean town on Gerry?
It's quite possible her vote on eager was bad distancing that she got caught up in and couldn't justifiably leave the wagon after I started pushing him.
As I said, gerry is my weakest town read, but he's done considerably more than my scum reads.-
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