Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:40 pm

How is it possible to cop check anyone if they can't be cop twice in a row?

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:43 pm

Okay, thanks for making it easier for us by selfvoting...

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:45 pm

How would you expect him to answer that question, if he is scum-aligned and just hammered... This is giving me bad feelings...

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:52 pm

I really don't think Mokoto and Scully are scum-aligned considering the efforts ABR went to to try and undermine their authority.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:55 pm

In post 106, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 104, Albert B. Rampage wrote:But seriously, I suppose it's better for us townies to take up as much of the private chats as possible.
lol

Oh yeah, look at this post!

I was looking at Dunnstral's ISO, and suddenly I remember this post that made me falter earlier...

This is basically claiming scum-aligned with ABR!

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:59 pm

In post 607, Dunnstral wrote:No.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:00 pm

In post 3093, The Bieber Brothers wrote:
In post 3090, iraonavp wrote:
In post 106, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 104, Albert B. Rampage wrote:But seriously, I suppose it's better for us townies to take up as much of the private chats as possible.
lol
Oh yeah, look at this post!

I was looking at Dunnstral's ISO, and suddenly I remember this post that made me falter earlier...

This is basically claiming scum-aligned with ABR!
flail harder

~Memeo

What?

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:07 pm

In post 738, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 736, yellowbaron wrote:
In post 732, Motoko and Scully wrote:That's not at all what I said. A cheap townpoints play is something done to look to appear townie without actually being townie.

Claiming Kingmaker encourages budddying and sucking up to his slot.
When ABR could use that power to threaten cajole and then drop it to gain useful information.
I see it as a reason to scumread ABR later, not right now.

~rb
This doesn't make sense. You're seemingly deflecting conversation away from ABR

Okay, this settles it...

Dunnstral doesn't express any scum-aligned read on ABR, yet he makes this post which implies that he is assuming ABR is scum-aligned. This is because he actually knows ABR is scum-aligned, he is basically saying "you look like you are defending a scum-aligned player", when ABR didn't even flip yet!

iraonavp · Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:08 pm

In post 3096, rb wrote:Tbh Iraonavp is enthusiastic about uncoventional things but they have the right idea. I don't think they're flailing at all tbh, despite the fact we disagree.

I've sometimes seen 1-2 posts and it pings me as really scummy and people ridicule me for it, but it turns out I was right. Usually it's scum that end up trying to mock me. Probs same thing with Ira ^_^

Yes, usually this happens to me too except it is all of my posts...

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:58 pm

VOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Luna Fox

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:27 pm

Okay.

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:29 pm

In post 3585, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 3584, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3511, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Lynching 3 scum is worth my lynch especially if no one wants to vote you normally
Foxbeebear is town
I'd bet my life on Luna being town. In fact, I'd bet that way about all of Tevinter.

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:53 pm

VOTE: Dunnstral

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:36 pm

That post makes zero sense and is scum-aligned.

Who is scum-aligned in the topic?

Why are you voting Mokoto and Scully over Shiro then?

That is such a scum-aligned post...

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:37 pm

VOTE: Radical Rat

There is probably scum-aligned warden and he was elected as it.

iraonavp · Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:38 pm

In post 3635, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 3634, iraonavp wrote:That post makes zero sense and is scum-aligned.

Who is scum-aligned in the topic?

Why are you voting Mokoto and Scully over Shiro then?

That is such a scum-aligned post...
Which one? Mine or Luna's?

Tevinter Imperium obviously.

You are voting Mokoto and Scully under this pretense.

Radical Rat is also treating Mokoto and Scully like they are town-aligned and wrong (which they almost surely are...).

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:28 pm

In post 3758, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
In post 3756, Motoko and Scully wrote:Liars don't get townreads until proven otherwise or by lynching scum.

You do neither.
Your the one at l-2 not me

I haven't read the thread, but I don't support lynching Motoko and Scully...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:02 pm

In post 3816, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Vote Count 3.7Motoko and Scully (L-2) : Yume, Foxbeebirdboy , Shiro, Luna Fox, Radical Rat , randomidget, shaddowez
Radical Rat (L-5): iraonavp , Frizzy Cola , SirCakez, Motoko and Scully
Randomidget (L-7):, PeregrineV, 100 Percent Ego
Luna Fox (L-8) : DrippingGoofball,
PeregrineV (L-8) : Bieber Brothers

Not Voting (2) : Dunnstral , Vedith ,

With 17 players alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Firebringer will be V/LA till Saturday, Frozen is main mod till then.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2016-08-23 22:30:00)

In the elven language, "hahren" means "elder", and there may be several elders in an elven community, male or female. Among the Dalish elves, the hahren is primarily a storyteller and caretaker of children, working in tandem with but deferring to a clan's Keeper. However, in the alienages the term takes on a specific, formal connotation as well.

Warden VoteSirCakez (1): Frizzy Cola
Not Voting (4): Radical Rat , SirCakez , randomidget, Yume

[/b]

Okay, this is just awful.

We are for sure lynching Radical Rat today...

Dunnstral, please bus Radical Rat... I thank you in advance for your cooperation.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:03 pm

I am kind of surprised at how Luna Fox's vote got there, I think it's suspicious.

Also, I think that randomidget is town-aligned.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:05 pm

Shiro is very clearly town-aligned in my opinion.

It is most likely that Radical Rat redirected Luna Fox, then that Luna Fox is scum-aligned, then that Shiro is scum-aligned.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:17 pm

In post 3117, Luna Fox wrote:Yeah suuuuure you're town, totally

Vote: Shiro

You're the only claimed redirector, also apparently some of my reads were wrong so i need to fix my last will in the case that i do get ML'd.

This is a scum-aligned post.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:36 pm

Okay, but I am still not entirely convinced (I am somewhat convinced) that this makes Luna Fox town-aligned.

I think it is possible that she made that play suicidally after being forced to claim by ABR, and the knowledge that the setup contains redirectors was a safety.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:52 pm

What we should have done is make randomidget target Foxbeebirdboy and then they target randomidget again, so that they can chain together 16 actions to a cop...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:06 pm

In post 3190, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3185, Shiro wrote:Did anyone ask the mod if that is the case?

@MOD Do the darkspawn count as a nation for the purpuse of warden picking ?

I'm not denying or confirming this.

Okay, this means that it is confirmed...

And Radical Rat also confirmed it.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:10 pm

In post 3190, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3185, Shiro wrote:Did anyone ask the mod if that is the case?

@MOD Do the darkspawn count as a nation for the purpuse of warden picking ?

I'm not denying or confirming this.

I know, but if they are scum-aligned together together they would know each other's roles. I think that is a possibility.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:36 pm

In post 3336, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:I think Iroa is town do to the gambit thing yesterday regarding ABR tbh

What does this mean?

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:39 pm

Dunnstral didn't believe the mason claims yesterday because he knew for a fact that there were no non-warden abilities from his scum-aligned roles, that's why he accused them of being scum-aligned in terrible ways.

I thought that the mason claims were legitimate because I trusted Foxbeebirdboy and rb over my own conclusions about the setup.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:47 pm

In post 3363, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3271, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
In post 3263, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3105, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Was rb the Orlais warden last night? I forgot.

If he wasn't, that clears DGB and shadowez as town, I think.
Scum wouldn't wanna deprive themselves of being warden.

It's also likely then that rb was killed for that exact purpose: to knock out Orlais.

Gonna wait until I talked to beeboy before I throw a vote down.
Why?

Does scum have to be Warden to use their scumbilities? Or does it just give them a boost?
It doesn't really matter if they "only" gain access or if it boosts them, why would they deprive themselves of a chance to be more powerful?
Either way both Orlais players aren't good lynch options today.

pedit: LET ME POST
Why do you assume it makes them more powerful?

I know that town is contratined by the warden system.

Why do you think or know that the warden system in any way affects scum or what they can do?

This is scum.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:01 pm

In post 3481, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3476, Shiro wrote:
In post 3475, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3474, Shiro wrote:In all honesty Luna is 99% chance scum as well

Becasue..................................
Because there is a good chance she simply faked a guilty to get rid of Abr
Which would result in her lynch. Scum don't trade for one. Not even for a top-caliber player like ABR.

Okay, Luna Fox is town-aligned and PeregrineV, Radical Rat, and Dunnstral are scum-aligned then probably...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:02 pm

In post 3506, 100 Percent Ego wrote:Random>>>shiro>>>beefox are who I want lynched today

That is just awful...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:04 pm

In post 3520, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 3515, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
In post 3513, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 3509, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Titus I will self vote right now is the town agrees to lynch in the following order until 1 player flips town.
(Titus > whoever my plan says is scum > Dunnstral)
Nope.

I want to lynch the scum in the wardens.

You might just be town throwing a tantrum like RB was. I can't tell because the three of you seem to think lies are ok and scumread the people who detect your lies.
I mean I am scum reading you because to prepare for my town flip you said scum killed ABR and RB out of kindness to keep the game less toxic.
you are also arguing Tevinter is all town but scum are killing the primary candidates pushing it.

I have good reasons to scum read you.
That was one of like 5 reasons. Shiro also felt sorry for me in Space Dandy where Cerberus and Drixx basically went off the fucking deep end.

Killing RB removes a mason pair if town if they expected you to prove it.
Killing RB proves you right if you are scum.
Killing RB suggests to just lynch Tevinter because it was their tantrum.

It's like 5 reasons.

They are killing the candidates pushing for scum in Tevinter because there are just too many obvtown so they need town to eat itself.

Tevinter is all town.

It's literally impossible for that to be the case.

Either Luna Fox is scum-aligned, or there is a scum-aligned player in Tevinter Imperium who knew to redirect her...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:05 pm

In post 3527, SirCakez wrote:that's basically already confirmed tho
I don't think scum would fake a guilty just to mislynch one person, like PV said

Please punctuate posts, peasant.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:10 pm

Reads:

Town-aligned: Shiro, Foxbeebirdboy, Motoko and Scully
Slightly town-aligned: shaddowez, randomidget, Frizzy Cola, DrippingGoofball
Null-aligned: SirCakez, 100 Percent Ego, Vedith, Yume
Slightly scum-aligned: Bieber Brothers,
Scum-aligned: Radical Rat, PeregrineV, Dunnstral

I removed Luna Fox because I am not sure. They should not be lynched yet though.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:12 pm

In post 3190, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3185, Shiro wrote:Did anyone ask the mod if that is the case?

@MOD Do the darkspawn count as a nation for the purpuse of warden picking ?

I'm not denying or confirming this.

In post 3336, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:I think Iroa is town do to the gambit thing yesterday regarding ABR tbh

In post 3363, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3271, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
In post 3263, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3105, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Was rb the Orlais warden last night? I forgot.

If he wasn't, that clears DGB and shadowez as town, I think.
Scum wouldn't wanna deprive themselves of being warden.

It's also likely then that rb was killed for that exact purpose: to knock out Orlais.

Gonna wait until I talked to beeboy before I throw a vote down.
Why?

Does scum have to be Warden to use their scumbilities? Or does it just give them a boost?
It doesn't really matter if they "only" gain access or if it boosts them, why would they deprive themselves of a chance to be more powerful?
Either way both Orlais players aren't good lynch options today.

pedit: LET ME POST
Why do you assume it makes them more powerful?

I know that town is contratined by the warden system.

Why do you think or know that the warden system in any way affects scum or what they can do?

In post 3481, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3476, Shiro wrote:
In post 3475, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3474, Shiro wrote:In all honesty Luna is 99% chance scum as well

Becasue..................................
Because there is a good chance she simply faked a guilty to get rid of Abr
Which would result in her lynch. Scum don't trade for one. Not even for a top-caliber player like ABR.

In post 3506, 100 Percent Ego wrote:Random>>>shiro>>>beefox are who I want lynched today

In post 3520, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 3515, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
In post 3513, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 3509, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Titus I will self vote right now is the town agrees to lynch in the following order until 1 player flips town.
(Titus > whoever my plan says is scum > Dunnstral)
Nope.

I want to lynch the scum in the wardens.

You might just be town throwing a tantrum like RB was. I can't tell because the three of you seem to think lies are ok and scumread the people who detect your lies.
I mean I am scum reading you because to prepare for my town flip you said scum killed ABR and RB out of kindness to keep the game less toxic.
you are also arguing Tevinter is all town but scum are killing the primary candidates pushing it.

I have good reasons to scum read you.
That was one of like 5 reasons. Shiro also felt sorry for me in Space Dandy where Cerberus and Drixx basically went off the fucking deep end.

Killing RB removes a mason pair if town if they expected you to prove it.
Killing RB proves you right if you are scum.
Killing RB suggests to just lynch Tevinter because it was their tantrum.

It's like 5 reasons.

They are killing the candidates pushing for scum in Tevinter because there are just too many obvtown so they need town to eat itself.

Tevinter is all town.

In post 3527, SirCakez wrote:that's basically already confirmed tho
I don't think scum would fake a guilty just to mislynch one person, like PV said

I still have not read everything, but Radical Rat is the best lynch.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:12 pm

Why are there so many quotes...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:02 am

In post 3905, Radical Rat wrote:There's a third redirector out there somewhere.
Maybe Dunnstral, since he knew Scum had Warden in some capacity, and I can't imagine scum being eager to point out when they can't kill...

This is for sure bussing.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:03 am

In post 3950, Dunnstral wrote:I still haven't caught on to why everyone is saying that

Did someone claim lie detector?

No, it's because PeregrineV is sowing ambiguity while not claiming...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:44 am

Huh, Shiro is actually voting Mokoto and Scully. That is not great...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:03 am

In post 3310, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:We get Vedith to track Luna
Protective tto protect Vedith
Luna can't submit 2 kills and we can confirm she isn't getting redirected

This?

I don't see how that proves anything at all, even if Luna Fox is scum-aligned she can just use whatever ability she has on two players, and then someone else takes the kill...

And I don't understand why we can't lynch Radical Rat and then do this...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:59 am

Yeah, that's what I thought.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:13 am

In post 3964, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3961, iraonavp wrote:Yeah, that's what I thought.

What?

Please vote Radical Rat.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:41 pm

No, I don't agree. I think that Luna Fox could be scum-aligned. This is what I think:

In post 3823, iraonavp wrote:It is most likely that Radical Rat redirected Luna Fox, then that Luna Fox is scum-aligned, then that Shiro is scum-aligned.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 3966, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3965, iraonavp wrote:
In post 3964, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3961, iraonavp wrote:Yeah, that's what I thought.

What?

Please vote Radical Rat.
Radical Rat was not warden of his nation on the night Luna was red-directed. Why would I vote him?

On that logic, you are voting randomidget, which is just awful...

Radical Rat is probably elected as scum-aligned warden.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:50 pm

In post 3970, Motoko and Scully wrote:

Pretty much Shiro or RR has to be scum as Luna has zero to gain by this play and redirectors are not positive town utility.

I disagree and I think that Luna Fox could have done it for that reason as WIFOM, since there was a claimed redirector she could put blame onto Shiro, and she felt threatened by ABR. I strongly think that Radical Rat is scum-aligned anyway, so this probably doesn't even matter.

Dunnstral is claiming to be scum-aligned by voting me instead of Radical Rat...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:00 pm

In post 3974, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 3972, iraonavp wrote:
In post 3970, Motoko and Scully wrote:

Pretty much Shiro or RR has to be scum as Luna has zero to gain by this play and redirectors are not positive town utility.
I disagree and I think that Luna Fox could have done it for that reason as WIFOM, since there was a claimed redirector she could put blame onto Shiro, and she felt threatened by ABR. I strongly think that Radical Rat is scum-aligned anyway, so this probably doesn't even matter.

Dunnstral is claiming to be scum-aligned by voting me instead of Radical Rat...
Dumb =/= stupid.

You should know that.

You mean Dunnstral?

And how could Luna put blame onto Shiro when Luna claimed the guilty before knowing Shiro was a redirector?

Huh, I checked and you're right... I thought that Shiro claimed it before. I think you're right then, but the fact that I am strongly reading Shiro as town-aligned probably means it's just Radical Rat.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:02 pm

In post 3979, 100 Percent Ego wrote:I dunno I like Dunns vote. Ira is just scumreading both claimed rediectors and Luna so it looks pretty chainlynchy to me.

What? I said I think Shiro is town-aligned many times, and I think Luna Fox is probably town-aligned too...

Do you think Radical Rat is town-aligned?

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:04 pm

In post 3879, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 3853, The Bieber Brothers wrote:why is no one dead yet

I didn't read the last ~30 pages but I assume it's just more of the same

can we lynch someone now
this is scum content with both of the leading wagons i.e MS and RR are town.

vote:Shiro

Okay, this is just ridiculous.

You are actually concluding the alignment based on pre-flip interactions? Don't you have a read on Radical Rat?

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:05 pm

In post 3982, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3971, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Iroanavp
wtf?

It's a strained and muted attempt to discredit me.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:32 pm

In post 3987, Motoko and Scully wrote:@cakey, I want to go Shiro, any chance you can join us?

It can't be Shiro... Why would Shiro claim redirector on day 2 unprompted (with intentions of proving PeregrineV and Radical Rat as scum-aligned) if she knew that ABR would flip town-aligned and then everyone would look at her?

In contrast, Radical Rat was forced to claim unintentionally because he outed his flavor and it was tied to role...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 3990, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 3981, iraonavp wrote:
In post 3979, 100 Percent Ego wrote:I dunno I like Dunns vote. Ira is just scumreading both claimed rediectors and Luna so it looks pretty chainlynchy to me.
What? I said I think Shiro is town-aligned many times, and I think Luna Fox is probably town-aligned too...

In post 3967, Motoko and Scully wrote:@iraonvp, Do you agree that Shiro or RR must be scum?

In post 3968, iraonavp wrote:No, I don't agree. I think that Luna Fox could be scum-aligned. This is what I think:
In post 3823, iraonavp wrote:It is most likely that Radical Rat redirected Luna Fox, then that Luna Fox is scum-aligned, then that Shiro is scum-aligned.
What are your scumreads outside of this train?

Do you think Radical Rat is town-aligned?
I do!

In post 3988, iraonavp wrote:
In post 3987, Motoko and Scully wrote:@cakey, I want to go Shiro, any chance you can join us?
It can't be Shiro... Why would Shiro claim redirector on day 2 unprompted (with intentions of proving PeregrineV and Radical Rat as scum-aligned) if she knew that ABR would flip town-aligned and then everyone would look at her?

In contrast, Radical Rat was forced to claim unintentionally because he outed his flavor and it was tied to role...
Your argument is that Shiro is town b/c they claimed early. Why couldn't she do that as scum?

Because after ABR flipped it would heavily implicate him...

Why don't you ee scum motivation in Shiro outting RR to decrease the chance she gets lynched?

That is null-aligned, it could be either.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:00 pm

Okay, the quote is broken...

These are still my other reads currently:

In post 3839, iraonavp wrote:Reads:

Town-aligned: Shiro, Foxbeebirdboy, Motoko and Scully
Slightly town-aligned: shaddowez, randomidget, Frizzy Cola, DrippingGoofball
Null-aligned: SirCakez, 100 Percent Ego, Vedith, Yume
Slightly scum-aligned: Bieber Brothers,
Scum-aligned: Radical Rat, PeregrineV, Dunnstral

I removed Luna Fox because I am not sure. They should not be lynched yet though.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:06 pm

In post 3816, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Vote Count 3.7Motoko and Scully (L-2) : Yume, Foxbeebirdboy , Shiro, Luna Fox, Radical Rat , randomidget, shaddowez
Radical Rat (L-5): iraonavp , Frizzy Cola , SirCakez, Motoko and Scully
Randomidget (L-7):, PeregrineV, 100 Percent Ego
Luna Fox (L-8) : DrippingGoofball,
PeregrineV (L-8) : Bieber Brothers

Not Voting (2) : Dunnstral , Vedith ,

With 17 players alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Firebringer will be V/LA till Saturday, Frozen is main mod till then.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2016-08-23 22:30:00)

In the elven language, "hahren" means "elder", and there may be several elders in an elven community, male or female. Among the Dalish elves, the hahren is primarily a storyteller and caretaker of children, working in tandem with but deferring to a clan's Keeper. However, in the alienages the term takes on a specific, formal connotation as well.

Warden VoteSirCakez (1): Frizzy Cola
Not Voting (4): Radical Rat , SirCakez , randomidget, Yume

[/b]

I trust them, I guess? Nobody is voting them that I have a significant problem with.

Dunnstral comes up with a lot of excuses not to vote Radical Rat.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:15 pm

In post 3995, Motoko and Scully wrote:VOTE: shiro

Iraonvp, you're being annoying atm. No one is really scummy on Shiro or RR. The constant deflection from a pool that everyone agrees has a scum (well minus DGB) suggests maybe they both are. Tevinter seems to be coming around on this though.

Shiro's just lost that Giffing feeling.

All three of Shiro, Radical Rat, and Luna Fox are currently voting you...

You have called Tevinter Imperium a masonry the entire game. If you are town-aligned, I don't know why you even trust yourself at this point..

iraonavp · Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:16 pm

None of this would have even happened if we lynched Radical Rat on day 1 I am sure, this is frustrating.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:03 am

Radical Rat, although Mokoto and Scully are trying to form a counterwagon of Shiro.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:05 am

Hi, Yume!

Please vote Radical Rat, they were caught out by an earlier flavor claim as the redirector who caused Luna Fox to get a guilty result on ABR.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:04 am

Why are you lying about the vote count, NEROCAIN?

iraonavp · Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:53 am

Okay, we only have 10 hours left!

Mokoto and Scully have revealed as innocent child, everyone vote Radical Rat as fast as you can to ensure a lynch!

iraonavp · Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:38 am

Shiro, your vote does not make sense. Could Mokoto and Scully have caused ABR's mislynch? No, only Luna Fox or Radical Rat could have caused this. This is why we are lynching Radical Rat, and then tracking Luna Fox!

iraonavp · Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:53 pm

VOTE: Dunnstral

iraonavp · Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:57 pm

Okay, maybe he is town-aligned, I will trust the result for now.

VOTE: PeregrineV

iraonavp · Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:09 pm

Luna Fox, why would you check Shiro?

I think DGB is terrible lynch because she replaced Masquerade...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:40 am

I can't know if it is real or not, but it's frustrating either way...

iraonavp · Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:27 pm

I think DGB is slightly town-aligned...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:41 pm

In post 4165, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 4164, iraonavp wrote:I think DGB is slightly town-aligned...
What do you think of Shadow's mini case then.

The point about the warden is null.

I think that Masquerade's play was town-aligned and I don't see anything telling about Masquerade... posting in response to Radical Rat?

iraonavp · Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:11 pm

VOTE: Motoko and Scully

iraonavp · Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:01 pm

I am voting Mokoto and Scully because DGB is town-aligned and maybe they aren't...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:03 pm

In post 4275, Luna Fox wrote:inb4 DGB forgot she replaced Masq

It's a townslip because DGB would see Masquerade in the scum-aligned chat.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:59 pm

Your only reason to vote her was that she was stalling, now you acknowledge that she already claimed and keep the vote...

I don't think you really think DGB is scum-aligned, you are just voting to save yourself.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:03 pm

In post 4182, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 4171, Shiro wrote:
In post 4167, Dunnstral wrote:no
One reason not to? T
he way M&S had defended RR was weird, how till it was inevitable wanted me dead over them. How she had an unexplained townread there from day one(and Titus doesn't bus till absolutly necessary)
Why she doced Luna when it was the worst move for town to do(and Titus is an amazing player to know that scum wouldn't kill the person they were trying to frame or the person that she thinks is scum)
Why does she fight so hard to prove that there is no scum in tevinter when it is pretty obvious that there is for anything to make sense?
Why did she try to justify that no there was no no kill with the most ludicrus theories while mostly everything pointed to the contrarry ?
Why the kill of rb over anyone else that was more townread or useful ?(Hint:He was pushing she was scum plus it fell perfectly with her wild theories about abr being warden)

I mean come on Dun
1) I was the counter to scum where the entire game got involved.
2) I set up the scenario where scum got lynched although my personal favorite did not get lynched.
3) Doctor sucks as a role. I just went with the best person to keep alive, not the one I felt was most likely to die because the pool was too big.
4) there has to be scum in Tevinter because It helps scum. There's zero foundation for this belief and EVERY SINGLE TEVINTER READS TOWN. Refusing to chase after scum that do not exist is not scummy.
5) ABR took the bullet. Nothing else makes sense. You saw RR's role pm just as well as I did. Is this "sacrifice" theory mentioned? Parts redacted? No. Hell, there's a pretty strong argument that scum do not even pick their own warden.
6) Rb was killed to shade Tevinter, eliminate power roles, and is definitely a kill scum Shiro considers after Space Dandy.

Can you stop rehashing the thread and scumhunt?

No because you are scum. I will find a way to prove it.

Where does the doctor claim come from?

iraonavp · Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:23 am

In post 4282, Motoko and Scully wrote:@iraonvp, I was warden the night luna wasn't.

I must have missed where you claimed, that makes sense now.

I am ambivalent on DGB scum. I would rather be lynching Shiro or Beeboy or TBB. I'll settle for anyone not in Tevinter. Masq was rather scummy so...

This seems fake, if Masquerade looked scum-aligned to you then why would you not want to lynch DGB if you are null-aligned on DGB's play, considering that DGB replaced Masquerade?

Shiro has been clearly town-aligned by play since the start of the game to me. I'm not sure what to make of you continuing to tunnel them other than you are scum-aligned not wanting to look bad from backing down. I felt similarly about Dunnstral but I think it's more likely that I am wrong about Dunnstral than something weird happening, so I'm not pursuing that currently.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:35 am

VOTE: 100 Percent Ego

I changed my mind about PeregrineV, I think he's town-aligned.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:42 pm

SirCakez, you should vote NEROCAIN then...

iraonavp · Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:52 pm

I think that SirCakez's position on Mokoto and Scully is reasonable.

Let's lynch NEROCAIN instead because he used very tenuous pre-flip associatives to call Radical Rat town-aligned...

iraonavp · Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:54 pm

In post 4401, Motoko and Scully wrote:My number two lynch target (TBB) defends Cakey.

How can you say this when you defended Radical Rat for most of the game?

iraonavp · Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:16 pm

In post 3506, 100 Percent Ego wrote:Random>>>shiro>>>beefox are who I want lynched today

In post 3879, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 3853, The Bieber Brothers wrote:why is no one dead yet

I didn't read the last ~30 pages but I assume it's just more of the same

can we lynch someone now
this is scum content with both of the leading wagons i.e MS and RR are town.

vote:Shiro

iraonavp · Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:12 am

What? I know...

iraonavp · Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:30 pm

In post 4429, 100 Percent Ego wrote:but really it has to do with Titus and I testing him to see if he'd latch onto Titus' buddying 'cause thats something he'd go after as town but he ignored it (and supposedly didn't say anything until Foxbird told him) and DGB is scum for
ATEing
about some brain dysfunction thing and claiming that I'm going after her b/c she's an "EZ" lynch when I've scumread Masq since d1. Oh, I was "bussing" her she claims as well.

Okay, NEROCAIN is just playing dumb here...

In post 4430, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 4409, iraonavp wrote:What? I know...
Are you sure? 'Cause I legit don't understand why you quoted a post where I have Random as my #1 lynch candidate and then a quote of me believing that a scum TBB would make a RR and MS town. Those two posts were totally unrelated so the way I took it was you were accusing me of bactracking from my #1 scumread and calling him town.

But it also begs an interesting question. Both you and Cakez have seen me use pre-flips as part of scumhunting so why is it "bad"? Or are we just saying that its bad 'cause RR flipped scum?

Yeah, so it was just implying and pretending to misinterpret something when you were obviously pushing counterwagon to Radical Rat, and giving very bad reasons to throw a town-aligned read at them. Even suddenly you come off of voting Radical Rat purely reasoned by "sheeping ira", it's like you didn't even try to have a proper position on your partner...

I meant to have quoted the posts like this (but still the posts you made were scum-aligned without this context):

In post 3506, 100 Percent Ego wrote:Random>>>shiro>>>beefox are who I want lynched today

In post 3645, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
vote:RR

OMG I'M SHEEPING IRA! Wich means the world is about to end

In post 3875, 100 Percent Ego wrote:I am not sure why you are voting rat ved ebb

In post 3879, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 3853, The Bieber Brothers wrote:why is no one dead yet

I didn't read the last ~30 pages but I assume it's just more of the same

can we lynch someone now
this is scum content with both of the leading wagons i.e MS and RR are town.

vote:Shiro

Because it does not make any sense from a town-aligned perspective.

You can obviously see why I think that those posts are scum-aligned, you are not really this naïve...

Also, you don't have an avatar! That makes you lynchable alone.

iraonavp · Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:32 pm

In post 4434, Motoko and Scully wrote:VOTE: DGB

I am with Nero.

If the choice is DGB or Nero, I vote for DGB. Nero's not getting lynched over a reaction test and pushing the largest D1 wagon not on town.

Okay, here are my reads if you refuse to vote NEROCAIN:

Town-aligned: Bieber Brothers, Yume, Vedith, SirCakez, Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, randomidget
Scum-aligned: 100 Percent Ego, Motoko and Scully, Dunnstral, Luna Fox, PeregrineV, shaddowez

iraonavp · Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:33 pm

Except I meant to put shaddowez as town-aligned... he's not in Tevinter Imperium.

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:03 pm

In post 4469, Motoko and Scully wrote:@Dunn, I see your point on iraonvp. (all of Tevinter, including you AND Luna as scum is insane and far fetched) but I don't want to peel off the good DGB wagon. We cannot split our group Imo. Scum are scrambling to see which TEVINTER can be mislynched. If DGB flips scum, the answer is none. That confirms what I have said all along. Tevinter is a masonry.

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:04 pm

Okay, it's obviously a joke you are scum-aligned and deliberately misinterpreting that...

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:17 pm

Yes, randomidget is town-aligned motivator.

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:22 pm

You are still basing your read of NEROCAIN from something easily fakeable from the RVS phase...

Tevinter Imperium is the scumteam!

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:25 pm

Something about reaction test in the neighborhood and effort to put into the game, that's what Mokoto and Scully said before.

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:31 pm

In post 4483, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 4479, iraonavp wrote:You are still basing your read of NEROCAIN from something easily fakeable from the RVS phase...

Tevinter Imperium is the scumteam!

In post 4481, iraonavp wrote:Something about reaction test in the neighborhood and effort to put into the game, that's what Mokoto and Scully said before.
@Shiro, Remember the last "joker" in NY 191? On the off chance you're town...iraonvp is likely scum.

Okay, that's just ridiculous.

You also wouldn't say that if you really thought Shiro was scum-aligned.

It's like you just tried to make that comment and then remembered to stay consistent with the previous nonsensical read on Shiro...

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:45 pm

In post 4488, Vedith wrote:
In post 4487, Vedith wrote:
In post 4470, 100 Percent Ego wrote:What makes you think this is a bus as apposed to you know, just scum trying to mislynch me?
Because Cakez is implying you're town?
Keep in mind just enough to keep on the fench to try and distance from you.

What?

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:11 pm

Okay, I just got confused about the wording...

Thanks for elaborating.

iraonavp · Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:51 pm

It's fine, I understand now!

At first I thought it was some weird joke about you implying yourself as scum-aligned...

iraonavp · Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:25 pm

In post 4502, shaddowez wrote:
In post 4500, Motoko and Scully wrote:Tbb,
Masq, DGB
, iraonvp, and Yume is where the scums are most likely.
Ughhh.....I was scumreading M&S, but I'm almost positive DGB is scum. The fact that she's listing both Masq and DGB (who replaced Masq) makes me question them actually being a scum team...

This is truly a conundrum!

Your main theory about Masquerade was proven as false because DGB was the warden and now you come up with more reasons after the fact, I don't know why you are so insistent...

iraonavp · Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:26 pm

In post 4509, Motoko and Scully wrote:Nah, let's not policy lynch when we have scum in our sights. I would if it wasn't Tevinter but meh

We all know what scum are desperate to disprove. They shaded you. They're shading me and Nero because we're the only two left.

Drunk Titus says hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

I fail to accept that you still hold this obscene opinion because of how the game has gone so far.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:27 pm

In post 4515, shaddowez wrote:
In post 4510, iraonavp wrote:
In post 4502, shaddowez wrote:
In post 4500, Motoko and Scully wrote:Tbb,
Masq, DGB
, iraonvp, and Yume is where the scums are most likely.
Ughhh.....I was scumreading M&S, but I'm almost positive DGB is scum. The fact that she's listing both Masq and DGB (who replaced Masq) makes me question them actually being a scum team...
This is truly a conundrum!

Your main theory about Masquerade was proven as false because DGB was the warden and now you come up with more reasons after the fact, I don't know why you are so insistent...
This makes no sense. My theory revolves around Masq being Kingmaker N1....has nothing to do with her being warden. What reasons after the fact am I coming up with? What has she done that makes you think she's town?

I think using being sick as an excuse is town-aligned, because I at least have dignity to not use that as an excuse which could make people mistakenly think I'm town-aligned, without considering the converse.

iraonavp · Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:27 pm

In post 4522, 100 Percent Ego wrote:nice bettlejuice.

You listed half the players in the game...

iraonavp · Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:28 pm

In post 4525, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 4523, DrippingGoofball wrote:Shut up I spent most of my day in the hospital and had a long meeting at night.
more
ATE
and trying to gain sympathy.

Is this not town-aligned? Mostly it's genuine unless you can see it sounds fake, this is just terrible throwing words at DGB...

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:29 pm

Hi, Creature and golden009!

You should know, firstly, not to listen to Mokoto and Scully.

Here's what really happened:
Day 1: Feelmi Udders was lynched as scum-aligned lurker wagon
Day 2: Luna Fox claims cop and says ABR is scum-aligned, ABR is lynched but he is town-aligned
Day 3: Radical Rat, a scum-aligned redirector, is lynched
Day 4: Luna Fox claims innocent on Dunnstral and Shiro, Vedith tracks her to be sure that she wasn't redirected

Now, we are lynching NEROCAIN, who is scum-aligned. Mokoto and Scully is either scum-aligned or not worth listening to, every opinion they had so far has been proven wrong!

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:00 pm

In post 4562, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4559, iraonavp wrote:Feelmi Udders was lynched as scum-aligned lurker wagon
Pushed by Shiro and I, try again

I forgot to mention that Dunnstral was confirmed as a godfather, whoops!

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:02 pm

In post 4560, 100 Percent Ego wrote:Yeah...we aren't lynching me today and hopefully never 'cause lynching town is stupid.

Truly revelatory, you have convinced me more than I could ever hope to have been convinced! I had never even considered the possibility that such degrees of convincedness could even exist!

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:04 pm

In post 4561, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 4556, Motoko and Scully wrote:4) you were obvious in hood about checking abr
tbf, she was obvious IN THREAD about ABR being her #1 scumread wich is why I don't really agree that scum has to be in the hood.

Note for Creature and goldeen9: Titus has spent the entire game pushing the completely ridiculous idea that everyone in her nation is town-aligned.

Here, we see NEROCAIN capitalizing upon this.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:11 pm

In post 4567, Nero Cain wrote:Ira, you and a ton of people jumped on me for no on shit reasons. I'm a DGB counter wagon b/c they can't get M+S lynched.

Note for Creature and goldeen9: DGB is town-aligned, but some people like shadowez really want to lynch her. Furthermore, Masquerade (person who DGB replaced) was counterwagon to Radical Rat earlier on!

Here, we see NEROCAIN try to capitalize upon suspicion of DGB to make himself look town-aligned.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:18 pm

In post 4570, 100 Percent Ego wrote:this is the same shit that DGB was saying. Like I was on Masq d1 so I'm NOT capitalizing on anything. I simply came back from my V/LA and joined the wagon but good job trying to manipulate the replacements.

Yeah, you've been trying to mislynch her for longer!

That's not even relevant to what I'm saying. I'm just objecting to your calling your wagon a coungerwagon.

Scum-aligned players can quote their own posts too, but nice try!

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:23 pm

Oh, I thought you were trying to reiterate your points or something.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:46 pm

Okay, you are somewhat right. Masquerade wagon had died down by the time Radical Rat was being wagoned.

Still, Masquerade and DGB have town-aligned play.

iraonavp · Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:49 pm

I already said. I don't remember why, it's just a list in my mind and that's how I always play.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:30 pm

In post 4585, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 4559, iraonavp wrote:Hi, Creature and golden009!

You should know, firstly, not to listen to Mokoto and Scully.

Here's what really happened:
Day 1: Feelmi Udders was lynched as scum-aligned lurker wagon
Day 2: Luna Fox claims cop and says ABR is scum-aligned, ABR is lynched but he is town-aligned
Day 3: Radical Rat, a scum-aligned redirector, is lynched
Day 4: Luna Fox claims innocent on Dunnstral and Shiro, Vedith tracks her to be sure that she wasn't redirected

Now, we are lynching NEROCAIN, who is scum-aligned. Mokoto and Scully is either scum-aligned or not worth listening to, every opinion they had so far has been proven wrong!

In post 4562, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4559, iraonavp wrote:Feelmi Udders was lynched as scum-aligned lurker wagon
Pushed by Shiro and I, try again
Nah, he's right. Shiro is scum. You are town. The only wagon D1 was garbage.

My opinions that I have pushed have been, Tevinter is all town, RB calling people unmentionables needs to die, and ABR lied to control the Gamestate. All of which are right.

How can Shiro be scum-aligned unless Luna Fox is also scum-aligned?

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:47 pm

In post 4608, The Bieber Brothers wrote:
In post 4587, Shiro wrote:Titus will you bus Bieber bro?

I am dine trying to knock sense into people
yeah we're scum with titus look at this elaborate crossbussing we're doing
In post 4601, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4525, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 4523, DrippingGoofball wrote:Shut up I spent most of my day in the hospital and had a long meeting at night.
more
ATE
and trying to gain sympathy.
FU

May your kidneys fail one day
:/

~Memeo

Maybe that is the case, DGB, but I don't feel comfortable assuming.

If so, I think this post means that TBB is scum-aligned for arguing that they aren't dcum-aligned together.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:59 pm

golden009 wrote:
@mod can I have access to the Tevinter chat?

You will never get it because Tevinter chat is actually the scum-aligned PT!

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:04 pm

NEROCAIN has brought up that he has been calling people scum-aligned since day 1 like 5 times now... As if he thinks it makes him not opportunistic. All it proves is that he is playing inflexibly and trying to push for multiple mislynches for the entire game!

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:12 pm

Yes, except for the part where nobody called you opportunistic.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:21 pm

No, because no such quotes exist.

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:55 pm

In post 4662, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 4263, DrippingGoofball wrote:it's probably MoI looking for an easy target
this is DGB saying that I am voting her for being easy.

and then reiterates the same thing

In post 4266, DrippingGoofball wrote:
and

In post 4268, DrippingGoofball wrote:Ego is scum. He's going for an easy lynch
and here you are claiming that I'm CAPITALIZING on the DGB which it not true b/c I had already been pushing MASQ

In post 4569, iraonavp wrote:Here, we see NEROCAIN try to capitalize upon suspicion of DGB to make himself look town-aligned.
While, ok, sure, niether of you have used the word "opportunistic" that is certainly what you two have been accusing me of.

NOW SELF FUCKING VOTE.

All of those quotes are completely consistent with you trying to lynch Masquerade for the whole game.

Nobody is even arguing that and you are just latching on to anything to try and escape...

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:59 pm

In post 4679, 100 Percent Ego wrote:
In post 4669, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4662, 100 Percent Ego wrote:While, ok, sure, niether of you have used the word "opportunistic" that is certainly what you two have been accusing me of.

NOW SELF FUCKING VOTE.
Look

We play this game for fun

Not to be bullied by sour-faced trolls
yea ok. I mean, I pushed Masq d1 and was on V/LA while I recovered from getting my tooth pulled so when I came back and saw that you were getting wagoned so I joined. Once I joined YOU and IRA effectively said my vote on you was opportunistic. Ira is over here saying "uh we didn't do that." when yes you guys did. Do you not realize how extremely frustrating it is that you two are ignoring evidence to fit your own "reads"? I mean, if you guys are scum (wich is what I feel like) then you guys doing that is fine but if you guys are doing that as town WTF?!? So yeah...I don't think you guys are town.

You're treating both of us that we are town-aligned in this very paragraph, trying to make us understand how frustrated you are!

iraonavp · Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:01 pm

In post 4680, DrippingGoofball wrote:Let's not waste further time arguing with the scum, it's not like we'll convince him he's scum, he already knows.

Okay, I agree. There is nothing else to do if people don't lynch him at this point...

iraonavp · Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:53 am

VOTE: Mokoto and Scully

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:35 am

VOTE: Luna Fox

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:45 pm

In post 4806, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4799, iraonavp wrote:VOTE: Luna Fox
lol

What?

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:51 pm

Oh, whoops!

VOTE: golden009

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:33 pm

Okay, Dunnstral and Luna Fox are scum-aligned together then.

There are no non-warden abilities in the game.

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:34 pm

Are faction counts public?

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:44 pm

In post 4821, Dunnstral wrote:it wasn't a warden ability

What?

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:52 pm

Okay nevermind, I misunderstood.

In post 4809, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4805, Vedith wrote:
In post 4804, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4803, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Cakez
Also willing to vote TBB and Ego.

All are scum.
Why for all of those
All scum!
Lynch them with me Dunn.
TBB had each head calling the other one town and the other one scum (In the hood).
I think they are faking different reads to distance if we do lynch either.
Why sircakez?

Also why 100% ego

Why would you ask this?

Why did you not immediately vote 100 Percent Ego if that was the case?

What is your flavor?

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:42 pm

Okay.

VOTE: 100 Percent Ego

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:46 pm

No, I changed my mind because of Dunnstral's claim. Just bothered that Shiro was killed over either of them...

iraonavp · Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:53 pm

I thought that Luna Fox could be scum-aligned and have another ability, or even be a scum-aligned cop to match fakeclaims with real roles. In my mind I felt like Luna Fox was trying to clear Dunnstral.

Still bothers me that they killed Shiro since both were out of shots...

iraonavp · Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:52 pm

UNVOTE: NEROCAIN

iraonavp · Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:02 pm

Seems like Foxbeebirdboy is a bit suspicious, NEROCAIN is that who Radical Rat meant in his last will and testament about who to keep the town-aligned read and trust on?

iraonavp · Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:06 pm

What?

Sounds like sports, sports is horrible...

iraonavp · Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:09 pm

What, no!

Anime is even worse than sports!

iraonavp · Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:33 pm

Even if you edit the URL to get the thread ID instead of the post ID, it's still not possible to see it since I'm not in the scum-aligned topic...

Also, I think that NEROCAIN is telling the truth in 4885.

iraonavp · Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:57 pm

VOTE: sirc

Let's see what are shaddowez's reads now...

iraonavp · Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:14 pm

VOTE: shaddowez

iraonavp · Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:21 pm

It seems like shaddowez is scum-aligned, so I have voted him instead.

iraonavp · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:17 am

The Bieber Brothers, you are not voting. Can you vote shaddowez?

iraonavp · Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 4975, SirCakez wrote:why not FBB?
There was scum on that Shadowez wagon somewhere.

Is that the only reason why?

iraonavp · Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:27 pm

Okay.

VOTE: sirc

iraonavp · Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:06 am

I'm not sure about sirc, just voting him because I don't see who else it could be...

iraonavp · Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:34 am

In post 5034, The Bieber Brothers wrote:give us warden tonight please

~Memeo

Okay, I will make sure to vote.

iraonavp · Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:06 pm

In post 5042, SirCakez wrote:
In post 5029, Creature wrote:Also barely any interaction of Radical Rat with SirCakez.
This is so false
I was one of the main drivers behind the RR wagon

Yes, to bus him...

Creature, why do you find Foxbeebirdboy suspicious?

iraonavp · Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:08 pm

In post 5067, Creature wrote:lol

idk why people are replacing out as a cop, or the slot isn't a cop?

It's actually 0-shot cop now... Or scum-aligned, but that is less likely.

iraonavp · Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:52 pm

iraonavp
randomidget
MathBlade
Vedith
Foxbeebirdboy
PeregrineV
Creature
Bieber Brothers
SirCakez

iraonavp · Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:56 pm

iraonavp
MathBlade
Vedith
Creature
randomidget
PeregrineV
Foxbeebirdboy
Bieber Brothers
SirCakez

I changed my mind, I actually meant this.

iraonavp · Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:24 am

sirc is 1 scum-aligned.

iraonavp · Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:25 am

Also, I am torn about Foxbeebirdboy, but I think Creature is town-aligned...

iraonavp · Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:51 am

I know this will look bad but I actually just looked at my role PM and it is tracker not follower... It says that I can follow someone at night and see where they go, that must have confused me. The ability name is assassin, so I didn't know...

iraonavp · Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:47 am

In post 5194, Vedith wrote:
In post 5137, The Bieber Brothers wrote:2 roleblockers (creature, ourselves)
2 town RB and no scum RB?
Not 2 mention 2 jailkeepers as well...
TBB is scum and so is Cakez.

I'm going on holiday until 26th, although I'll probably daily post during the night I guess

@Mod - V/LA until 26th technically

It's probably randomized, since there was scum-aligned doctor and no vigilante or serial killer...

iraonavp · Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:32 pm

Okay, we should lynch sirc. If he miraculously flips town-aligned, then we should lynch Foxbeebirdboy, otherwise someone else...

iraonavp · Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 5230, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5228, iraonavp wrote:Okay, we should lynch sirc. If he miraculously flips town-aligned, then we should lynch Foxbeebirdboy, otherwise someone else...
Not lynching who motivated me.

It's smalltown, and the scum-aligned players knew this.

Not motivating you would show him as scum-aligned when he had to claim... It's null-aligned, ultimately.

iraonavp · Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:02 pm

Exactly...

iraonavp · Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:49 pm

SirCakez, the game will never progress. Hammering yourself helps the town, not doing so is claiming scum-aligned.

iraonavp · Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:11 pm

Foxbeebirdboy doesn't look like a bus from SirCakez...

Did you use your ability at any point earlier, The Bieber Brothers?

iraonavp · Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:17 pm

VOTE: The Bieber Brothers

iraonavp · Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:17 pm

In post 5331, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 5318, Shadow_step wrote:@vedith and IRA you should vote me for warden tonight.
I hope you guys did this already.

Yes, I submitted the vote...

iraonavp · Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:20 pm

In post 5344, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5312, iraonavp wrote:Foxbeebirdboy doesn't look like a bus from SirCakez...

Did you use your ability at any point earlier, The Bieber Brothers?
At this point it's either you and someone in your nation, or 2 people in your nation.

Talk about your night chat, and your reads on your nation.

We have a night chat, it is a private topic. My reads are that The Bieber Brothers are scum-aligned, and everyone else is town-aligned.

There is only one scum-aligned player left...

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:08 am

VOTE: Vedith

From elimination.

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:33 pm

In post 5368, MathBlade wrote:Explain.

"From elimination" is not good enough.

I'm sorry, I am very lost...

You are the only person that I trust.

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:35 pm

UNVOTE: Vedith

He still seems scum-aligned, though.

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:36 pm

In post 5370, Vedith wrote:
In post 5367, iraonavp wrote:VOTE: Vedith

From elimination.
You can't be serious...

So Rando didn't make the kill. I feel if he was scum he would have made the kill over Shadow/Ira as they knew I was warden.
Shadow was trying to say Math is scum if not killed, I disagreed. (then Shadow said PV)
Ira says 2 scum left (seems confident here) then puts a vote down without thought.

Are you saying that you tracked randomidget?

Because The Bieber Brothers already roleblocked him before, this seems like a way to clear someone who is already partially cleared to deny us information.

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:44 pm

I was never as warden.

I don't know what days I voted on, and there were some days that I didn't, but I will list the votes from my PMs in chronological order:
Foxbeebirdboy
Foxbeebirdboy
Shiro
The Bieber Brothers
Shadow_step

My current guess is that Vedith and Shadow_step are scum-aligned.

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:19 pm

Okay, I worked it out...

Day 1: Foxbeebirdboy
Day 2: Foxbeebirdboy
Day 3: Shiro
Day 4:
Day 5:
Day 6:
Day 7: The Bieber Brothers
Day 8: Shadow_step

iraonavp · Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:29 pm

I didn't even know, I lost touch...

iraonavp · Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:38 pm

Vedith must've made a null-aligned mistake in his results.

We know he tracked you on night 3, because he made a code in the Antiva topic, then posted both targets in the thread on day 3 before Luna Fox reported her results.

iraonavp · Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:03 pm

I still think Vedith is scum-aligned, just not for that reason...

iraonavp · Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:32 pm

In post 4036, Vedith wrote:4, 11.
So Random being the only one alive in Thedas now suggests scum trying to frame.

Here's where Vedith said it, MathBlade...

The 4 and 11 corresponds to players on a list posted in the Antiva topic.

iraonavp · Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:35 pm

Vedith and I cannot be scum-aligned together, because I thought my role was follower... We would have known that we had the same role if we were scum-aligned together and my mistake would have been corrected earlier.

iraonavp · Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:49 pm

Well, it seems like we should lynch Shadow_step. That's my current feeling...

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:58 am

What accusation?

You are very loud and jumping.

You know, randomidget is partially cleared twice over. And (unless he is scum-aligned with Vedith), I don't think the other partner would make the kill twice in a row. If there was only one scum-aligned player, he is 100% clear anyway...

I think your reads are overstated and scum-aligned.

The lack of quickhammer suggests either you or randomidget are scum-aligned, don't be dishonest about perspective...

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:01 am

The only reason for thinking Vedith is town-aligned is stale and disproven pre-flip associatives with TBB...

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:04 am

Okay, you're scum-aligned then.

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:05 am

What a cyclical question... You cannot really expect an answer from that, it's just an excuse to push me.

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:14 am

It's unsafe to fake a guilty, Vedith is a relaxed player.

Okay, since you asked nicely and have Sonic the Hedgehog avatar...

VOTE: Shadow_step

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:15 am

It's impossible for ninja because the game is very simple. Two of each role, the only special things they have are scum-aligned warden and factional kill...

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:20 am

Okay, I didn't know... It's basically the same thing anyway.

I wonder if Radical Rat was still alive you guys would be on a team with similar avatars!

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:51 pm

I'm not hammering, because I am town-aligned.

I think this is a terrible idea to vote the partially cleared player and Vedith will just quickhammer...

iraonavp · Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:37 pm

Randomidget was blocked by TBB, and tracked by Vedith.

Therefore, he is partially cleared. Shadow_step's push on him is very scum-aligned...

iraonavp · Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:27 pm

I thought about what you said, Vedith. Maybe there's just one of them then, and it's Shadow_step...

iraonavp · Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:45 pm

In post 5491, MathBlade wrote:However then shadow or Vedith would have hammered if scum.

This isn't true...

Okay, you are scum-aligned or going to lose then.

iraonavp · Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 5481, Vedith wrote:You (Math/Luna) - I tracked to Dunn and Shiro. If you are a scum cop, I can't see the normal guilty / not guilty being given and instead probably changed into a role cop.
As a role cop, why would Luna visit Shiro who already said their role?
Even for town cred, scum could have got information while targeting another suspected player for town.

That's not how it works, there was scum-aligned doctor... It's entirely smalltown, they would have it as a visitor. In fact, the fact that Luna Fox targeted two town-aligned players is a cause for concern. What you've posted is extremely reachy and illogical, randomly jumping to the conclusion that a cop would be changed to a rolecop, I don't think you really believe this...

Basically, even though I think you are scum-aligned, in the case where you are town-aligned I am appealing to you now, because we already lost if Mathblade is town-aligned... randomidget is partially cleared from TBB blocking him, if he was scum-aligned he would perform the kill on instead of me because of this.

If anyone actually looked at voting history I am clearly town-aligned, but nobody did that it seems...

iraonavp · Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:27 pm

Nice job, BlackVoid!

iraonavp · Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:04 pm

In post 5653, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 5649, MathBlade wrote:Yay! I caught SirCakez. Woo hoo! Sorry TBB and Iroanavp about the mislynch
TBB did nothing to redeem his slot, he simply had to be lynched. He kept calling me scum when I was ob town, like wtf?

Ira why did you never asked to be voted for warden? Your tracker was very useful.

I didn't consider that I had a role for most of the game, really...