Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[Radical Rat]

Luna, can we continue this in the hood. Like there's zero productive from this.

Assholes ruined this game.

I am an adolescent for scum reading you? Despite you confbiasing me for 3 dies while I also provide actual proof you re scum and I am the asshole?
Ok then Titus

ABR and RB were the assholes.

You just think ego and tantrums are evidence.

Evidence proves things.

Like ABR being the NK so no scum in Tevinter.

You can't buy there's an all town hood you are not in.

Because everything that has happened points toward Scum leaking info from Tevinter.
You've just made up this scenario where scum rely on luck for their lynches and entire neighborhoods lie randomly to convince yourself that there's not.

Either you are the Scumleak trying desparately to cover yourself up, or you're just too far into your confbias to accept that you were wrong about your pre-game reads.

Nope. I am right. There is no evidence suggesting a leak in Tevinter. The last possibility of that died with RB.

The evidence is that scum decided to redirect Luna even with the threat of a Watcher being posted in the main thread, and decided to make her result guilty, despite no indication of who she would check being posted in public.

That's not a move Scum makes hoping to get lucky. That's a move Scum makes when they know it will work.

[Motoko and Scully]

Luna, can we continue this in the hood. Like there's zero productive from this.

Assholes ruined this game.

I am an adolescent for scum reading you? Despite you confbiasing me for 3 dies while I also provide actual proof you re scum and I am the asshole?
Ok then Titus

ABR and RB were the assholes.

You just think ego and tantrums are evidence.

Evidence proves things.

Like ABR being the NK so no scum in Tevinter.

You can't buy there's an all town hood you are not in.

Because everything that has happened points toward Scum leaking info from Tevinter.
You've just made up this scenario where scum rely on luck for their lynches and entire neighborhoods lie randomly to convince yourself that there's not.

Either you are the Scumleak trying desparately to cover yourself up, or you're just too far into your confbias to accept that you were wrong about your pre-game reads.

Nope. I am right. There is no evidence suggesting a leak in Tevinter. The last possibility of that died with RB.

The evidence is that scum decided to redirect Luna even with the threat of a Watcher being posted in the main thread, and decided to make her result guilty, despite no indication of who she would check being posted in public.

That's not a move Scum makes hoping to get lucky. That's a move Scum makes when they know it will work.

Like I said, the redirect is redundant if scum knew Luna was checking as ABR had to be the NK.

It's over. Stop beating a dead horse and scumhunt outside of the masonry or make a damn case on someone in it that's more than I disagree.

[Radical Rat]

Except there's no proof of any kind that ABR was the NK.

That theory literally is you just making stuff up to create a scenario where it was possible.

Granted, there's no proof they just didn't kill either, but at least that possibility isn't dependent on Town making gambit plans with no direct communication.

[Motoko and Scully]

THe fact no one died proves ABR was warden.

There's zero other possibility, as every claimed warden refuted the heal.

I mean, to you there is.

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

[Luna Fox]

THe fact no one died proves ABR was warden.

There's zero other possibility, as every claimed warden refuted the heal.

I mean, to you there is.

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Or scum hit BP. BP is a passive ability unless you're saying that you need to be warden for those too.

[Motoko and Scully]

THe fact no one died proves ABR was warden.

There's zero other possibility, as every claimed warden refuted the heal.

I mean, to you there is.

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Or scum hit BP. BP is a passive ability unless you're saying that you need to be warden for those too.

You'd think the BP claims yesterday since there's no way a BP is more than one shot given mechanics.

Second, I would believe they'd require warden anyway.

[Luna Fox]

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Uhh but RR wasnt the warden and you just said you'd need warden for BP.

[Motoko and Scully]

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Uhh but RR wasnt the warden and you just said you'd need warden for BP.

He'd be scum warden in that setup.

Like I said, it's a stretch but it's the only way that ABR wasn't the Orlias warden that absorbed the kill, since no kill is absurd with two claimed cops and outed protectives.

[Luna Fox]

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Uhh but RR wasnt the warden and you just said you'd need warden for BP.

He'd be scum warden in that setup.

Like I said, it's a stretch but it's the only way that ABR wasn't the Orlias warden that absorbed the kill, since no kill is absurd with two claimed cops and outed protectives.

So you're saying the same thing Dunn says?

[Motoko and Scully]

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Uhh but RR wasnt the warden and you just said you'd need warden for BP.

He'd be scum warden in that setup.

Like I said, it's a stretch but it's the only way that ABR wasn't the Orlias warden that absorbed the kill, since no kill is absurd with two claimed cops and outed protectives.

So you're saying the same thing Dunn says?

Except Dunn and I disagree about the likelihood of scenarios.

I believe Shiro is much more likely scum due to balance like PV says.

I'm not saying scum warden is impossible. I just find it unlikely. So Shiro should get rope. Compromise on RR.

[Motoko and Scully]

I don't want to lynch outside of those two though, as much as Beeboy is proscum.

[Radical Rat]

THe fact no one died proves ABR was warden.

There's zero other possibility, as every claimed warden refuted the heal.

I mean, to you there is.

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Why isn't a deliberate no kill a possibility?
No, it's not meta, and yes there were PRs that could have been targetted.

But what's stopping them from doing so? The motivation is there, and I'd even say it worked, because here you are arguing against the claims.

Killing ABR though? There's no motivation, he was a prime mislynch target. He very blatantly lied about being cop, and literally no one believed him. So why kill him?

[Motoko and Scully]

THe fact no one died proves ABR was warden.

There's zero other possibility, as every claimed warden refuted the heal.

I mean, to you there is.

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Why isn't a deliberate no kill a possibility?
No, it's not meta, and yes there were PRs that could have been targetted.

But what's stopping them from doing so? The motivation is there, and I'd even say it worked, because here you are arguing against the claims.

Killing ABR though? There's no motivation, he was a prime mislynch target. He very blatantly lied about being cop, and literally no one believed him. So why kill him?

He wasn't lynched, so people did.
Too many outed PRs.
ABR being lynched would not happen because he would just personally berate anyone who tried.

[Radical Rat]

THe fact no one died proves ABR was warden.

There's zero other possibility, as every claimed warden refuted the heal.

I mean, to you there is.

You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.

Why isn't a deliberate no kill a possibility?
No, it's not meta, and yes there were PRs that could have been targetted.

But what's stopping them from doing so? The motivation is there, and I'd even say it worked, because here you are arguing against the claims.

Killing ABR though? There's no motivation, he was a prime mislynch target. He very blatantly lied about being cop, and literally no one believed him. So why kill him?

He wasn't lynched, so people did.
Too many outed PRs.
ABR being lynched would not happen because he would just personally berate anyone who tried.

The PRs being outed would discourage a no kill, yes. But not eliminate it from possibility. Especially a no kill in a game like this that casts doubt onto everyone who claims, thus allowing a potential lynch of these PRs.

What is impossible is ABR and rb making this convoluted scheme with no way to discuss it. At least not without other people being in on it who would have confirmed it by now.

[SirCakez]

1) ABR lied and rb made him warden
2) Scum shot ABR to mislynch Luna
3) Scum, unaware that Luna was checking ABR, nk him.
4) Scum push Luna and attack Tevinter masonry idea.

Gg.

No other scenario takes in all facts.

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How are you so certain on all of this?

You are not today's lynch. RR and Shiro are the candidates.

Oh and I protect town, no matter the cost.

I only have 1 crapy ability left anyway.

Obviously FB isn't a candidate for the lynch

This game is a chore

foxbeebirdboy, where else are you willing to lynch? M&S isn't getting lynched

I still want you to track who luna visits tonight or do whatever

M&S is by far the most likely lynch today so don't talk to me like it won't happen

There's no way M and S are going to be lynched, sorry bud

[Motoko and Scully]

Ok, I'll break that down.

First, no kill is preposterous with two claimed cops. Scum knew ABR was town, so they wanted to show ABR was town to disprove flavor linked to role, eliminate a cop, and doubtcast Tevinter.
But why ABR? We know Random didn't stop the kill due to someone vouching for receiving his double use. We know that Tevinter didn't stop the kill because Luna was warden. We know Shiro (if town) merely redirected someone.
That leaves ABR as the D1 target an orlesian warden stopped the kill or PV as the D1 killer and RR being elected a scum warden. We know the alleged Orlesian Warden didn't stop the kill because RB flipped bodyguard without a bulletproof vest.
That leaves a lying warden. We know that Tevinter and Ferelden could not be lying about their wardens. That leaves Antiva and Orlais. Antiva mass lying about votes and electing Shiro warden would be followed up with a claim of doctor most likely or Shiro is actually a redirector. So it cannot be the Antivan warden. That leaves Orlais as lying. Orlais is lying and ABR is warden is the only thing that fits.

Build from there. Why would scum shoot ABR? (Fill in your own reason here). I like the doubtcast Tevinter theory and mislynch ABR. If ABR flips cop, then Luna looks suspect and so does Tevinter as bloodmages not whatever Luna is would be assumed to be cops.

Yet, Luna decided to check ABR.

Scum wanted Luna to get a fake guilty, so they redirect.

It;s overkill.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Vote Count 3.7

Motoko and Scully (L-2) : Yume , Foxbeebirdboy , Shiro , Luna Fox , Radical Rat , randomidget, shaddowez
Radical Rat (L-5): iraonavp , Frizzy Cola , SirCakez , Motoko and Scully
Randomidget (L-7): PeregrineV , 100 Percent Ego
Luna Fox (L-8) : DrippingGoofball
PeregrineV (L-8) : Bieber Brothers

Not Voting (2) : Dunnstral , Vedith


With 17 players alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Firebringer will be V/LA till Saturday, Frozen is main mod till then.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2016-08-23 22:30:00)

"Though darkness closes, I am shielded by flame. Andraste, guide me. Maker, take me to your side!"

Leliana

Warden Vote

SirCakez (1): Frizzy Cola
Not Voting (4): Radical Rat , SirCakez , randomidget, Yume

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[iraonavp]

Liars don't get townreads until proven otherwise or by lynching scum.

You do neither.

Your the one at l-2 not me

I haven't read the thread, but I don't support lynching Motoko and Scully...

[Shiro]

2) Scum shot ABR to mislynch Luna

How? When duplicates are a thing, how does Abr kill incriminate Luna at all?

[Shiro]

Like assume Abr was honest and flipped night 1 as cop

Luna was redirected and got guilty on flipped town

She claims so.
Redirector scum discovered
Luna pretty much had no problems because duplicate roles are a thing
Scum hinting occurs normally.

Your theory makes no sense

[Shiro]

In the contrary

Scum in Tevinter that knew what Luna was doing could no kill to get the easy lynch on ABR and then frame her and every single warden of night 1

Which makes more sense to you?
(this assuming Luna town)

[iraonavp]

Vote Count 3.7

Motoko and Scully (L-2) : Yume, Foxbeebirdboy , Shiro, Luna Fox, Radical Rat , randomidget, shaddowez
Radical Rat (L-5): iraonavp , Frizzy Cola , SirCakez, Motoko and Scully
Randomidget (L-7):, PeregrineV, 100 Percent Ego
Luna Fox (L-8) : DrippingGoofball,
PeregrineV (L-8) : Bieber Brothers

Not Voting (2) : Dunnstral , Vedith ,


With 17 players alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Firebringer will be V/LA till Saturday, Frozen is main mod till then.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2016-08-23 22:30:00)

In the elven language, "hahren" means "elder", and there may be several elders in an elven community, male or female. Among the Dalish elves, the hahren is primarily a storyteller and caretaker of children, working in tandem with but deferring to a clan's Keeper. However, in the alienages the term takes on a specific, formal connotation as well.

Warden Vote

SirCakez (1): Frizzy Cola
Not Voting (4): Radical Rat , SirCakez , randomidget, Yume

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Okay, this is just awful.

We are for sure lynching Radical Rat today...

Dunnstral, please bus Radical Rat... I thank you in advance for your cooperation.

[iraonavp]

I am kind of surprised at how Luna Fox's vote got there, I think it's suspicious.

Also, I think that randomidget is town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Shiro is very clearly town-aligned in my opinion.

It is most likely that Radical Rat redirected Luna Fox, then that Luna Fox is scum-aligned, then that Shiro is scum-aligned.

[Shiro]

In the contrary

Scum in Tevinter that knew what Luna was doing could no kill to get the easy lynch on ABR and then frame her and every single warden of night 1

Which makes more sense to you?
(this assuming Luna town)

Actually..Yea

I believe this is what happened.

It doesn't even matter who they lynch first. Assume me, flip town, was honest, flip Luna, flip town, night 1 warden hunt to find the lier and presumably all of them flipping town. It was the perfect plan. Scum couldn't know I knew RR was also redirector which would bust tge plan and the fact that they have their own warden.

Sorry for doubting you Luna