Mini 1830 - Game Over

[House]

Nope, it's worse. I'm the town watcher. I watched you.

No one targetted House, but no way we have a Watcher/Bodyguard combo here.

Lynch House today. Or lynch me, see me flip blue and lynch House tomorrow.

UNVOTE:

[VictorDeAngelo]

Too little, too late.

[House]

What's sad is that I buy his claim.

I don't see scum claiming something as absolutely worthless as watcher. I'd have expected Victor to claim Tracker and use my inaction to try to sell a wagon on me.

His case is derp, but not maliciously so.

[House]

Too little, too late.

Nobody is lynching me, idiot.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Whatever, I'm going to bed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm. I'm not really buying Victor's claim. I'll unvote for now, but if any other investigative role comes up, Victor goes back under the microscope.
VOTE: CCC

[House]

Whatever, I'm going to bed.

What the fuck kind of flaccid bullshit is that?

Relieved to have some pressure off of you so you can sleep tight?

I think you're full of shit and reached for a role that was unlikely to be countered in a game with JoAT and Bodyguard.

VOTE: Victor

[House]

Hm. I'm not really buying Victor's claim. I'll unvote for now, but if any other investigative role comes up, Victor goes back under the microscope.
VOTE: CCC

He's full of shit and trying to get another role outed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I kinda figured that could be the case.
VOTE: Victor
Where do you live Victor?

[House]

Victor red flip = Gamma town
Victor green flip = Gamma scum

Let's do it.

[House]

Or lynch me, see me flip blue

Town flips green. Those with a town role PM would know that.

Where the fuck do you get blue?

[gerryoat]

Spoiler: Gerryoat

My first thoughts on Gerryoat were not liking the start of his play this game. In particular how he refuses to consider anything before the fifth page as helpful in finding peoples alignments. He went on the restate this when I posted my analysis, (47 and 109). Then when I pointed out that me pulling reads out of what he called “nullness” would in fact be reason to suspect me. (167) He didn’t disagree, he even said that somebody posting in-depth reads using the first three pages of a mafia game is suspect, but he avoided calling me scummy for it. Instead he opted to stay on Rhazhbash because he was, “much worse”.

He then goes on to town read me while giving little back bone as to why. I later asked for more elaboration to this and his response was that he town read me because of what I had done up to that point. He does this without actually saying what I done that is townie. His town read on me is vague. Keeping me as his top town read most of D1 without directly saying what about me is town, (and no I’m not counting the” everything about you is town” thing), making that read look really contrived. It wasn’t until his read list at post 679 that he said it was mainly that my scum hunting looked genuine.

… BUT

I actually didn’t find his suspsions of Square to be bad though. Gerry could definite have been pushing that wagon with town intentions. Square read’s were riddled with contradictions. Which many people see as scummy, and can be scummy. (828 & 888). His scum read on victor today looks good too.

Looking into other games Gerry had played on site I think that he is likely town here. Looking at Machiavellian mafia I saw that Gerry is crazy good at distancing his scum buddies. TO the point that it looked like he was getting into a personal affront with his scum buddy Maria. The back an forth between Gerry and Victor at the start of the day look way too weak to be scum Gerry, and Victor. Gerry also doesn’t make sense with Gamma’s buddying yesterday. With Gerry not matching either proposed scum team I’d say he is town.

thank you for the compliment on my scum game, i'm flattered lol. But, thank you for finally realizing my reasons. This is why I don't think victor is town because my reasons for pushing on square were legit (and he did too) yet now he's trying to say that my vote on him is now the reason?? even though he voted me before i voted him lol

[gerryoat]

Victor you said you TR grendel's activity. but when I said the same thing about grendel, you said that it wasn't a good enough reason.

When did this happen?

Gives a townread on me and Grendrl but doesn't explain. This could be an issue of default scum x-ray reads, where their reads come from their knowledge of who is who, and not any actual towntells.

I liked Grendel's early activity and the fact he got stuck in sooner than other people. In my experience, that tends to come from town. And as I said before I omitted a lot of explanations from the early game to see what reactions I get. Players asking me about my read, leads to dialogue, which leads to more interactions, etc and the game starts flowing naturally. Obviously, it was far than a set in stone at the time (although Grendel still remains a townread).

forgetful? you said it literally the page before this lol

[gerryoat]

oops I quoted that wrong. but victor said the first paragraph, not me.

[House]

Spoiler...

Been rereading ISOs, and I know who else is scum.

Tomorrow should be short.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also:
What was the misnomer you promised yesterday?

[House]

Also:
What was the misnomer you promised yesterday?

misnomer?

Who? Where? What?

[gerryoat]

I'm a bodyguard motherfucker.

Now what?

Die, scum.

??????????????????????

Why weren't you on JOAT?

[House]

I'm a bodyguard motherfucker.

Now what?

Die, scum.

??????????????????????

Why weren't you on JOAT?

Because I'm not dying when I'm catching scum and they're not.

[gerryoat]

Nope, it's worse. I'm the town watcher. I watched you.

No one targetted House, but no way we have a Watcher/Bodyguard combo here.

Lynch House today. Or lynch me, see me flip blue and lynch House tomorrow.

Um. if you're watcher how are you blue? lol (On epicmafia we call Blue a vanilla tonwie. So if blue is just synonym for town on here, sorry)

[Gamma Emerald]

I have the day two lynch identified as well when CCC flips red.

Hint: If I have my way, his name will be a misnomer

This is what I mean.

[House]

Nope, it's worse. I'm the town watcher. I watched you.

No one targetted House, but no way we have a Watcher/Bodyguard combo here.

Lynch House today. Or lynch me, see me flip blue and lynch House tomorrow.

Um. if you're watcher how are you blue? lol (On epicmafia we call Blue a vanilla tonwie. So if blue is just synonym for town on here, sorry)

It's not. Green is synonymous with town here.

Even the PR's are green in the role PM's, so he has no town reason for thinking he'll flip blue.

[gerryoat]

Also Victor's watcher claim has to be bullshit, I refuse to believe that watcher wouldn't be on claimed PR.

[House]

Also Victor's watcher claim has to be bullshit, I refuse to believe that watcher wouldn't be on claimed PR.

Yep, excellent point.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, blue is the second mafia color, so that was BS anyway. Green is the ONLY town color here.