Mini 1830 - Game Over

[House]

lol

[eagerSnake]

1. House has used more buzzwords than I have.

2. He baited me into using the buzzwords, so then he could accuse me of using them.

These are just some of the ones I picked out of his ISO. Go ahead and read his ISO for yourself, you'll see exactly what I mean.

No good will come of my wagon.

AtE

I guess we'll see after I'm dead.

AtE

scum blatantly white knighting

Buzzwords

white knighted Huntress out of the blue

Buzzwords

You'll learn... Abrasive House is Town House. Scum House is much friendlier.

Self-Meta

(Look at me! I'm being abrasive so I'm town!)

Please tell me why CCC and Square are scum.

Needs help finding a reason to push CCC here, follows with a push on CCC the next day

"Scumdar ping."

Buzzwords

He says this 8 times, in bold, in one post. But I'm the one buzzwording, okay.

Misrepresenting my case to cast shade and defend scum is scummy.

Buzzwords

immediately doubtcasted

Buzzwords

scum motivation.

He says this so much they might as well be a buzzwords. He's tried to portray himself as some kind of oracle who is the only one who knows how to seek out scum motives. There's plenty of scum motive for that.

slinging mud and creating noise <snip> cast shade

Buzzwords

It's an easy AtE to make as scum.

Buzzwords

Your scum motive is shining like a beacon in the night.

Buzzwords

lol... didn't see this shade coming.

Buzzwords

Moar AtE prz. What does that have to do with what you're responding to?

Buzzwords

you are on the fence

Buzzwords

casting shade

Buzzwords

This is actually the page that he is calling ME out for using buzzwords. Almost as if he baited me into using these words, so he could accuse me of using them. Smart.

Buzz buzz buzz

Buzzwords

This is next post after that post, so yeah, it was baiting me to use the words so he could then use this against me.

[eagerSnake]

This dude is literally guilty of everything he's accusing me of. Whats more, he baited me into using buzzwords, and then accused me of using the buzzwords on that SAME PAGE.

[House]

lol x2

[Grendel]

Spoiler:

I dont like how Square world playes but its not a reason to lynch him.
What i dont like about him right now is that he mentioned how eagers analysis on RhazhBash sucks.
While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.

@Square: Why do you think Gerry is scum?

While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game,

I post my analysis of the player before the summary of their posts. This is obvious if you are reading the post. Some people do it different, where they link the post number and then put their thoughts on that post next to the number. I could do that, but that's not the way I did it that time.

Yes but why bother to summarise what he posted when you dont tell us your thoughts on those posts but only your over all read on him?
Also your post summary on Victor has only on short comment on you liking him not pushing his scumread on Rhazh.
But in all 3 i see no real read from you. I could assume that you think Gerry is Null and Rhazh is slight scumlean but you never said that.

Why do you like that he isnt pushing his read on Rhazh?

Manuel says that he dislikes Squares play style, but doesn’t see it as a reason to lynch him. Then directly after throws out a line about how weird it was that Square criticized Eager for his analysis on Razh but not on Eager’s other analysis. It looked like he might have been trying to tie Square and Rhazbash together for some reason. Then in his next post it looked like pairing Rhaz and Eager together. Looking at it now it may have been some scum team pairing, and POE, but at the time reading through the lines made it look more like he is tying Rhaz to people. I also thought that that line about Eager being vague about his reads was weird when Square wasn't explaining his scum reads and Manuel said that shouldn't be a reason to lynch someone.

In later posts he acts suspicious of Jester in 314 for town reading Square while ignoring Victor’s town read on Square. He so he seemed to have more of an opinion on the alignment of the people town reading Square then scum reading Square. IMO if Manuel thought that Square was possible mislynch he’d have been more concerned about those scum reading Square then those town reading him.

Do you like/dislike anything else in 102?

I generally dont like when ppl say "there are 1-2 scum in this group of people" when the group they are talking about is exactly 50% of the players (self not included)
Which in return means he also thinks there are 1-2 scum in the other group.

@RhazhBashu: would you mind answering my question in 92

I forgot to mention this one, but yeah I didn’t like it either. I felt like he was playing down my experiment, and that the reads generated from it were purely random. Later I thought it could mean that he was scum with Gamma given that they both were in the results. That was the associative I was talking about forever ago.

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Now my scum read on Manuel is dampening. It originally came from viewing everything Snake did from town POV. Without the Rose colored lenses Manuel doesn't look so bad there.

[Gamma Emerald]

This dude is literally guilty of everything he's accusing me of. Whats more, he baited me into using buzzwords, and then accused me of using the buzzwords on that SAME PAGE.

Did you even read his case summary at all?

[eagerSnake]

This dude is literally guilty of everything he's accusing me of. Whats more, he baited me into using buzzwords, and then accused me of using the buzzwords on that SAME PAGE.

Did you even read his case summary at all?

I think we were building at the same time.

[eagerSnake]

Regardless, what ever his "case" is, it's bogus. If he had a reason to call me scum, why didn't he do it a long time ago, when he said he was going to? Instead he just said "Lol." and waits until last minute wagon formation.

[eagerSnake]

Just read his case, it's bogus stuff I've already answered to and I'm not going to answer to it again. Not sure why you're voting me Gamma.

[House]

Regardless, what ever his "case" is, it's bogus.

Look familiar?

[House]

I haven't even analysed your case... My response to your desire to lynch CCC has nothing to do with your case or your points.

Regardless, what ever his "case" is, it's bogus.

[Grendel]

VOTE: Gamma

This is the way to go.

[House]

VOTE: Gamma

This is the way to go.

Gamma has zero votes and we have less than a day.

Use your head, Grendel.

[eagerSnake]

I just don't know about him being obvscum. His playstyle makes it feel like mislynchbait.

CCC is the type of player that relies heavily on a mathematical approach to the game. I have seen this type of player specifically lynched D1 often before there is enough data to incorporate math. More often than not they are town.

I haven't even analysed your case... My response to your desire to lynch CCC has nothing to do with your case or your points.

I will tonight, just not this second. I skimmed over it, but didn't analyse it or anything. It's looks like you believe you have a solid case there.

I want to be able to analyze it with a clear mind and without distractions, partly in respect to the time I know you put in it.

Surely this is what you would want.

It's useful to occasionally look at what is being argued first and then look at the arguments.

If you're going to quote my response to your case, quote the whole thing. I was already suspecting you, I had voted RhazhBash right before they had replaced out. I was more worried about your slot, and engaging you, than CCCs. I also wanted to see how/if you would defend your case.

[Grendel]

@House

If Eager flips town and you move to lynch wagon away from Gamma tomorrow you are scum with Gamma.

As if you couldn't shift the lynch wagon. That's what you're best at as town. Rallying for lynches. Give me a break.

[House]

Look how concerned eager is with covering all his bases to make sure he has something to explain away anything said about him (without actually addressing the overarching points).

Contrast that with my complete disregard for appearances.

eager is scum, plain and simple. He spends more time covering his ass and creating alibis for his suspicions than actually being productive.

[House]

@House

If Eager flips town and you move to lynch wagon away from Gamma tomorrow you are scum with Gamma.

As if you couldn't shift the lynch wagon. That's what you're best at as town. Rallying for lynches. Give me a break.

If eager somehow flips town (not a chance in hell), I'll forfeit my case on Gamma, as it depends on an eager scumflip.

QED.

[Gamma Emerald]

@House

If Eager flips town and you move to lynch wagon away from Gamma tomorrow you are scum with Gamma.

As if you couldn't shift the lynch wagon. That's what you're best at as town. Rallying for lynches. Give me a break.

This looks like lining up lynches.
My townread on Grendel is starting to dissipate.

[eagerSnake]

He literally waited until last minute deadline rush to dig up this bad case. Not only that, I won't be here tomorrow for deadline, at all. I have classes to attend, and don't expect to be home until after 6PM tomorrow.

[House]

@House

If Eager flips town and you move to lynch wagon away from Gamma tomorrow you are scum with Gamma.

As if you couldn't shift the lynch wagon. That's what you're best at as town. Rallying for lynches. Give me a break.

This looks like lining up lynches.
My townread on Grendel is starting to dissipate.

Lining up lynches is way less of a thing than people think.

What Grendel is doing is making pre-flip associatives (which I am also guilty of, which is why I want the flip).

[eagerSnake]

Among other things, you're guilty of tunneling with bad or non-existent reasons.

[House]

Among other things, you're guilty of tunneling with bad or non-existent reasons.

There's a difference between not sharing and not having.

And it's strange that you'd say that at all, considering:

Your case does bring up a lot of valid points.

[House]

eager can't keep his lies straight.

[eagerSnake]

I actually have lots of homework I need to get done by midnight. I don't know what you're thinking, Gamma, but you're going down a bad road.

[Gamma Emerald]

House, that was in reference to your case on CCC.