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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:22 am

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In post 249, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
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- Why have you gone from posting nothing to suddenly spamming the thread?
real life
And on another note why not a direct response to 229. Should I infer Gerry and Manual are your only scumreads?
calm down, i dont get a read on everyone within 2 days
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:31 am

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@SquareWorld
Are you a hydra?
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:43 am

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hydras aren't allowed in normal games
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:55 am

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:facepalm: Ok then that question was dumb.

I am getting townvibes from Square World. Now I want to hear more from Huntress.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:00 am

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I dont like how Square world playes but its not a reason to lynch him.
What i dont like about him right now is that he mentioned how eagers analysis on RhazhBash sucks.
While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.

@Square: Why do you think Gerry is scum?
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:02 am

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@Victor What exactly has Square World done that was inherently townie?
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:04 am

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In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game,
I post my analysis of the player before the summary of their posts. This is obvious if you are reading the post. Some people do it different, where they link the post number and then put their thoughts on that post next to the number. I could do that, but that's not the way I did it that time.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:23 am

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In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:I dont like how Square world playes but its not a reason to lynch him.
What i dont like about him right now is that he mentioned how eagers analysis on RhazhBash sucks.
While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.

@Square: Why do you think Gerry is scum?
eagerSnake wrote:@Victor What exactly has Square World done that was inherently townie?
If you must know, I liked his response to the second question in .
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:25 am

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Sorry, meant to have two parts to that post.
In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:I dont like how Square world playes but its not a reason to lynch him.
What i dont like about him right now is that he mentioned how eagers analysis on RhazhBash sucks.
While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.

@Square: Why do you think Gerry is scum?
I'm putting Manuel back into my "would lynch today" pile for this post.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:25 am

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In post 256, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game,
I post my analysis of the player before the summary of their posts. This is obvious if you are reading the post. Some people do it different, where they link the post number and then put their thoughts on that post next to the number. I could do that, but that's not the way I did it that time.
Yes but why bother to summarise what he posted when you dont tell us your thoughts on those posts but only your over all read on him?
Also your post summary on Victor has only on short comment on you liking him not pushing his scumread on Rhazh.
But in all 3 i see no real read from you. I could assume that you think Gerry is Null and Rhazh is slight scumlean but you never said that.

Why do you like that he isnt pushing his read on Rhazh?
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:27 am

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In post 250, Square World wrote:
In post 249, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
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- Why have you gone from posting nothing to suddenly spamming the thread?
real life
And on another note why not a direct response to 229. Should I infer Gerry and Manual are your only scumreads?
calm down, i dont get a read on everyone within 2 days
So this post only comes from town now?
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:32 am

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In post 229, VictorDeAngelo wrote:He's not a townread, more null. Simply put, while he hasn't done anything particularly townie, he is contributing and hasn't done anything scummy IMO so I'm not concerned about him at this moment in time.
This is Victor's read on Gamma. How does he have a town read on Square World based off the one post quoted above, but only a null read on Gamma? Doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:41 am

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So now I'm not allowed to form different opinions on different players?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:46 am

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In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.
lol there are more

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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:47 am

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In post 259, Manuel87 wrote:
In post 256, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game,
I post my analysis of the player before the summary of their posts. This is obvious if you are reading the post. Some people do it different, where they link the post number and then put their thoughts on that post next to the number. I could do that, but that's not the way I did it that time.
Yes but why bother to summarise what he posted when you dont tell us your thoughts on those posts but only your over all read on him?
Also your post summary on Victor has only on short comment on you liking him not pushing his scumread on Rhazh.
But in all 3 i see no real read from you. I could assume that you think Gerry is Null and Rhazh is slight scumlean but you never said that.

Why do you like that he isnt pushing his read on Rhazh?
Here's a peak into the spinning gearwheels of my brain:

I start off wanting to kill everyone. Everyone is scum.

As people do things I feel are townish, I move them down the list of people I want to kill. People who don't do townish things stay at the top.

Then I do my best to get the people at the top of the list killed.

If I say "I don't think this is a good lynch today" then I feel like they've done something townish at some point, or at least more so than others, and they aren't at the top of my list.

If I say "I would lynch them today" then they are still near/at the top of my list.
In post 262, VictorDeAngelo wrote:So now I'm not allowed to form different opinions on different players?
Oh sure. But you sure were quick to make your vote on me serious when I said I townread Gamma based on his response, right? Convenient.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:47 am

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In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:@Square: Why do you think Gerry is scum?
maybe you have to learn to see the post i quoted
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:52 am

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I'm calling BS on anyone who townreads Square World.

Spoiler: All of Square Worlds posts
In post 51, Square World wrote: let me guess, you're one, right?

VOTE: CCC
RVS
In post 119, Square World wrote:VOTE: Manuel87

try to guess why
no explanation
In post 205, Square World wrote: tip: i vote the first non-townread post above mine

if that's not clear enough, we can play popcorn reads
still no explanation
In post 235, Square World wrote:rhazhbash is probtown because there are opportunistic scum on him
needs more explanation
In post 236, Square World wrote: lol
VOTE: gerryoat
no explanation
no explanation
In post 239, Square World wrote: do you wanna play Scum Crush Saga?
what?
no explanation
In post 241, Square World wrote:btw, your post by post analysis on rhazh sucks
no explanation
In post 244, Square World wrote: simple, you aren't trying to discern his alignment
BS
In post 245, Square World wrote:mean't qo quote 243
blank
In post 247, Square World wrote:5 RVS null
12 questions X null
35 sheeps Y scummy
68 prodges null
71 pushes Z towny

is this discerning alignment?
What is this?
In post 250, Square World wrote: real life

calm down, i dont get a read on everyone within 2 days
Oh really? See below.
In post 252, Square World wrote:hydras aren't allowed in normal games


In his last game he had a scum or town read on every player in the game, 1 day after gamestart. This post is 2nd day after gamestart.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:55 am

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Yeah, I'm still scumreading CCC, but Square has been very bad recently
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:56 am

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In post 264, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 262, VictorDeAngelo wrote:So now I'm not allowed to form different opinions on different players?
Oh sure. But you sure were quick to make your vote on me serious when I said I townread Gamma based on his response, right? Convenient.
The two aren't comparable.

However I find it surprising that once again your pulling me back towards my vote on you. What percentage of your scumread on me is based on 74?
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:03 am

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eagerSnake

if you meta'd me, you would notice i usually don't explain my posts

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh! Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh!
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:06 am

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What the hell? It feels like Square forot to quote the post his second part was referring to.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:08 am

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In post 269, Square World wrote:eagerSnake
if you meta'd me, you would notice i usually don't explain my posts

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh! Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh!
Caught in a bad lie
I don't accept metagame defenses that allow people to get away with always being scummy.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:12 am

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In post 268, VictorDeAngelo wrote:However I find it surprising that once again your pulling me back towards my vote on you. What percentage of your scumread on me is based on 74?
Based on 74 alone? None. Like I said when I first called out 74, it could come from scum or town.

You think RhazhBash is scum, but if you seriously think that, then you are doing nothing to advance the town's cause besides placing a vote and saying, "No, I'm not explaining", that draws my attention. It's a refusal to make a case on someone, which I stated before is inherently scummy. Town should be worried that the town will mislynch, and should push their reads.

Question for both VictorDeAngelo and Square World: Do you think that posting your honest opinions will hurt you? Why, then, do you refuse to explain things?
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:40 am

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In post 271, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 269, Square World wrote:eagerSnake
if you meta'd me, you would notice i usually don't explain my posts

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh! Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh!
Caught in a bad lie
I don't accept metagame defenses that allow people to get away with always being scummy.
Too convenient.

VOTE: eagersnake
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In post 268, VictorDeAngelo wrote:However I find it surprising that once again your pulling me back towards my vote on you. What percentage of your scumread on me is based on 74?
Based on 74 alone? None. Like I said when I first called out 74, it could come from scum or town.

You think RhazhBash is scum, but if you seriously think that, then you are doing nothing to advance the town's cause besides placing a vote and saying, "No, I'm not explaining", that draws my attention. It's a refusal to make a case on someone, which I stated before is inherently scummy. Town should be worried that the town will mislynch, and should push their reads.
I dispute that I'm doing nothing to advance the town's cause. I also dispute that I didn't explain my reasons for voting when I quoted the post in question right before voting. And as I believe I said before, it's not my fault Rhazh has been quiet since a wagon started on him (though that is suspicious in and of itself).
Question for both VictorDeAngelo and Square World: Do you think that posting your honest opinions will hurt you? Why, then, do you refuse to explain things?
To the first question I call bullshit. I have posted plenty of honest opinions in this game.

As for explaining I will do so if/when I feel like. Often if I feel the explanation will add no value I will omit it. I don't believe spewing every thought into a game thread is beneficial. There's a value in picking what information to share and when to share it. If you find it scummy, then tough titties. I'm not going to shift my play just to appease you.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:58 am

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Which is more convenient: A self-proclaimed metagame that allows someone to get away with always being scummy, or a policy against it?

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