Mini 1830 - Game Over

[VictorDeAngelo]

Wow, it took me openly second guessing myself for people to admit that Gamma isn't widely town read. You guys had me feeling like I was seeing things that weren't there.
Is there enough support for a Gamma lynch to push it through today?
UNVOTE:

probably depends on Victor and Gerry.
@Gerry, Victor: would you lynch Gamma instead of Square today?

He isn't in my preferred lynch pile. If you want me to help lynch him, I want a persuasive case.

victordeangelo, manuel87

did i forget someone?

And my name is in this list because???

@Square

- Any reason you didn't respond to 910?

[House]

The current deadline is (expired on 2016-09-26 18:00:00).

We need to decide NOW.

[Manuel87]

He isn't in my preferred lynch pile. If you want me to help lynch him, I want a persuasive case.

After doing the Iso on him plus Eager i realized he was following Eagers vote almost every time while scumreading him without giving any convincing reason.
He never asked him questions related to scumhunting in fact his only interaction until the Eager vs. me part was in 485 the interaction seems to be rather odd it feels like he already explaines why Eager survives the night in case CCC flips town.
He has read Eager Scum and me town in two readlists yet if you look at their voteprogression Gamma and Eager vote the same person except for the vote on CCC.
Until he finally arrived at the point where he had to decide between me who he had a townread on for the entire game and is voted by all of his scumreads (to be fair Square voted after him)
Or Eager who he had scumread for a long time and even said:

Thanks Snake. You're on my would lynch list, but that explanation helped you quite a bit.

After that he disagrees on arguments from Eager
And we finally arive at his vote on me

Well I'm feeling better about Square now, so:
VOTE: Manuel87

How does he come to the conclusion to vote me instead of Eager because he likes Square for contradicting himself? (Square read me town in his analysis yet he would lynch me)
Eager should still be his scumread and i should still be his townread yet he votes me over Eager.

Manuel87

wanna lynch huntress with me?

No i dont i already said that i will not lynch in my townreads.

[Gamma Emerald]

He isn't in my preferred lynch pile. If you want me to help lynch him, I want a persuasive case.

After doing the Iso on him plus Eager i realized he was following Eagers vote almost every time while scumreading him without giving any convincing reason.
He never asked him questions related to scumhunting in fact his only interaction until the Eager vs. me part was in 485 the interaction seems to be rather odd it feels like he already explaines why Eager survives the night in case CCC flips town.
He has read Eager Scum and me town in two readlists yet if you look at their voteprogression Gamma and Eager vote the same person except for the vote on CCC.
Until he finally arrived at the point where he had to decide between me who he had a townread on for the entire game and is voted by all of his scumreads (to be fair Square voted after him)
Or Eager who he had scumread for a long time and even said:

Thanks Snake. You're on my would lynch list, but that explanation helped you quite a bit.

After that he disagrees on arguments from Eager
And we finally arive at his vote on me

Well I'm feeling better about Square now, so:
VOTE: Manuel87

How does he come to the conclusion to vote me instead of Eager because he likes Square for contradicting himself? (Square read me town in his analysis yet he would lynch me)
Eager should still be his scumread and i should still be his townread yet he votes me over Eager.

Manuel87

wanna lynch huntress with me?

No i dont i already said that i will not lynch in my townreads.

So are you saying my reads can never change then?

[Manuel87]

So are you saying my reads can never change then?

No i am saying your reads changed for no reason.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[House]

So are you saying my reads can never change then?

No i am saying your reads changed for no reason.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Stop.

Gamma isn't happening today.

Look at the vote count.

Lynch his buddy eager and we'll get Gamma tomorrow.

[Manuel87]

So are you saying my reads can never change then?

No i am saying your reads changed for no reason.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Stop.

Gamma isn't happening today.

Look at the vote count.

Lynch his buddy eager and we'll get Gamma tomorrow.

VOTE: EagerSnake
Ill check in tomorrow morning to see the votecount i am fine with either of them you can count my vote on both ill change according to who you guys decide on tonight.

[gerryoat]

everyone foses square but is "scared it wont happen today" how about you just vote it, and you'll see the votes pile up. manuel, ccc. if you both vote square we will have 4 votes on him

[House]

everyone foses square but is "scared it wont happen today" how about you just vote it, and you'll see the votes pile up. manuel, ccc. if you both vote square we will have 4 votes on him

Vote eager and he'll be L-1.

[eagerSnake]

Wrong again.

[Eggman]

Vote Count 1.11

Not Voting

: The_Jester

Square World

: gerryoat, VictorDeAngelo

eagerSnake

: House, Huntress, Manuel87

Manuel87

: CCC, eagerSnake, Gamma Emerald, Square World

(L-2)

Finger of Suspicion Count 1.03

Manuel87

: eagerSnake

Grendel

: Gamma Emerald

With 11 players alive, it takes

6

for a lynch.
The deadline for this day is (expired on 2016-09-26 18:00:00).

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh. I'm really just not feeling any wagon right now.
UNVOTE:

[House]

When Manuel flips town, you need to pull your heads out of your asses and lynch eagersnake, Gamma, and one of Victor/Huntress.

[eagerSnake]

More AtE, House?

[House]

More buzzwords, eager?

[eagerSnake]

If the word fits, use it.

You're guilty of buzzwording anyway. Ironically, you are guilty of everything you accuse me of.

[House]

If the word fits, use it.

You're guilty of buzzwording anyway. Ironically, you are guilty of everything you accuse me of.

You're not even aware of what I'm "accusing you of", so that's a facile assertion.

[gerryoat]

Gamma you should vote square

[House]

I haven't even analysed your case... My response to your desire to lynch CCC has nothing to do with your case or your points.

eager argued that my case on CCC was bad

BEFORE HE EVEN READ IT

.

So to finish up I'd like to hear your hypothetical scum team.

Manuel is throwing suspicion on Square, but not voting or FOS'ing. That makes me suspect a Manuel/Square scum team is a possibility.

VOTE: Square World

He posts reasons to suspect Manuel... then votes Square?

Lol.

This is House's case.

I'll speak eager's language: Buzz words.

Doubtcasting.

Because I'm

Nothing personal,

scum.

Care to explain?

Here, he's attempting to goad me, because I've been acidic towards him. Classic scum instigation tactic.

Anyone townreading this is an idiot.

[Grendel]

@Eggman I unvoted Manuel a couple pages ago.

Fixed.

[House]

Wow, it took me openly second guessing myself for people to admit that Gamma isn't widely town read. You guys had me feeling like I was seeing things that weren't there.

Is there enough support for a Gamma lynch to push it through today?

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven't even analysed your case... My response to your desire to lynch CCC has nothing to do with your case or your points.

eager argued that my case on CCC was bad

BEFORE HE EVEN READ IT

.

So to finish up I'd like to hear your hypothetical scum team.

Manuel is throwing suspicion on Square, but not voting or FOS'ing. That makes me suspect a Manuel/Square scum team is a possibility.

VOTE: Square World

He posts reasons to suspect Manuel... then votes Square?

Lol.

This is House's case.

I'll speak eager's language: Buzz words.

Doubtcasting.

Because I'm

Nothing personal,

scum.

Care to explain?

Here, he's attempting to goad me, because I've been acidic towards him. Classic scum instigation tactic.

Anyone townreading this is an idiot.

Thank you for the summary of your case. Now that I can see the entire case, I think you may be right. However, I'd like you to consider the possibility of CCC and Eager being buddies.
VOTE: EagerSnake

[House]

I haven't even analysed your case... My response to your desire to lynch CCC has nothing to do with your case or your points.

eager argued that my case on CCC was bad

BEFORE HE EVEN READ IT

.

So to finish up I'd like to hear your hypothetical scum team.

Manuel is throwing suspicion on Square, but not voting or FOS'ing. That makes me suspect a Manuel/Square scum team is a possibility.

VOTE: Square World

He posts reasons to suspect Manuel... then votes Square?

Lol.

This is House's case.

I'll speak eager's language: Buzz words.

Doubtcasting.

Because I'm

Nothing personal,

scum.

Care to explain?

Here, he's attempting to goad me, because I've been acidic towards him. Classic scum instigation tactic.

Anyone townreading this is an idiot.

Thank you for the summary of your case. Now that I can see the entire case, I think you may be right. However, I'd like you to consider the possibility of CCC and Eager being buddies.
VOTE: EagerSnake

You do raise a valid concern re: CCC, especially considering his recent behavior.

[eagerSnake]

1. House has used more buzzwords than I have.

2. He baited me into using the buzzwords, so then he could accuse me of using them.

These are just some of the ones I picked out of his ISO. Go ahead and read his ISO for yourself, you'll see exactly what I mean.

No good will come of my wagon.

AtE

I guess we'll see after I'm dead.

AtE

scum blatantly white knighting

Buzzwords

white knighted Huntress out of the blue

Buzzwords

You'll learn... Abrasive House is Town House. Scum House is much friendlier.

Self-Meta

(Look at me! I'm being abrasive so I'm town!)

Please tell me why CCC and Square are scum.

Needs help finding a reason to push CCC here, follows with a push on CCC the next day

"Scumdar ping."

Buzzwords

He says this 8 times, in bold, in one post. But I'm the one buzzwording, okay.

Misrepresenting my case to cast shade and defend scum is scummy.

Buzzwords

immediately doubtcasted

Buzzwords

scum motivation.

He says this so much they might as well be a buzzwords. He's tried to portray himself as some kind of oracle who is the only one who knows how to seek out scum motives. There's plenty of scum motive for that.

slinging mud and creating noise <snip> cast shade

Buzzwords

It's an easy AtE to make as scum.

Buzzwords

Your scum motive is shining like a beacon in the night.

Buzzwords

lol... didn't see this shade coming.

Buzzwords

Moar AtE prz. What does that have to do with what you're responding to?

Buzzwords

you are on the fence

Buzzwords

casting shade

Buzzwords

This is actually the page that he is calling ME out for using buzzwords. Almost as if he baited me into using these words, so he could accuse me of using them. Smart.

Buzz buzz buzz

Buzzwords

This is next post after that post, so yeah, it was baiting me to use the words so he could then use this against me.

[eagerSnake]

This dude is literally guilty of everything he's accusing me of. Whats more, he baited me into using buzzwords, and then accused me of using the buzzwords on that SAME PAGE.