Mafia 69: noXkill - Game over!

[Dead Rikimaru]

The legends of ulfhednar mentioned in Vatnsdœla saga, Haraldskvæði, and the Völsunga saga may be a source of the werewolf legends. The ulfhednar were vicious fighters similar to the better known berserkers, who were dressed in bear hides and reputed to channel the spirits of these animals to enhance effectiveness in battle. These warriors were resistant to pain and killed viciously in battle, much like wild animals. Ulfhednar and berserkers are closely associated with the Norse god Odin.

SECOND VOTECOUNT

curiouskarmadog

(5) - ZONEACE , Tarhalindur , WhoMe? , Kanaga , Flyinghawk

Flyinghawk

(1) - curiouskarmadog

Not voting

( 8 ): Twomz , Peers , cicero , ChocolateAttack , davidangelsummers , ooba , Kison , IH

Needed for a lynch: 8 votes
Negotiable deadline: 28 days

If by deadline no one has 8 votes player with more votes is lynched
If two players have same number of votes lynch is decided by duel

[Twomz]

HMMM... I am this [] close to voting CKD just to see the claim... but I want to hear it before I decide if I should put my vote on him >.<

Of course, offering yourself up in order to get a player lynched, then attacking those who call you on it is a fairly large scum tell imo. The hint at inside information... while I can understand that as theorizing (and you would not know the size of the other group as well, could be one large with no abilities and one small with abilities) it still does not sit to well with me.

On second thought, I will

vote: CKD

, because I have nothing else at this point (tiring weekend).

[Peers]

vote: CKD

Due to my previous vote having the wrong tags.

[Tarhalindur]

Unvote: CKD

for now, since he is at L-1 at the moment. I don't want a quickhammer.

This vote is likely to return to CKD unless he has a very good claim.

[cicero]

That's L-1 isnt it?

[Tarhalindur]

Not any more - I just unvoted.

[Flyinghawk]

Now, just to wait for CKD's claim, which is once again going to leave us nowhere in terms of scum hunting.


One thing Cicero said last page is slightly odd to me. Not enough to warrent a Vote or FOS, but sort of off. He said "how do you scumhunt scumhunting scum?" But this is what you do in every mafia game, all good scum try to look as though they are scumhunting so as to divert attention from them.

I dunno, just sort of odd, and we don't have much to work off of besides this right now, except perhaps Kanaga's absence and CKDs claim..

sigh.

[cicero]

But in this game they(you?) really ARE scumhunting. Not APPEARING to scumhunt. Surely you understand the difference.

[Twomz]

I agree with Cicero.

Quicklynch = bad. Wait for CKD to post before putting another vote on him.

[davidangelsummers]

Forgive me for not jumping on this bandwagon quite yet. Thats 6 townies dead and we lynched 3 of them. Im going to check if anyone has been on all three wagons. Then im going to lisen to the claim and then im going to vote for the person I think is scum.. im not going to lisen to anyone that say you can lynch me if....... been thier done that, got it wrong.

[davidangelsummers]

Someone please correct me if im wrong but who me? was on all wagons..

FOS WHO ME

Discuss

[WhoMe?]

Yes I was indeed on all the mislynches. Am I the only one?

[ooba]

Hey I'm sorry but my net connection gave out and i have had no access for the last 4 days ..

I'm puzzling out in my head whether we should mass claim.

I do not see as to how it is not in everybody's best interests not to just claim townie .. Pro town power roles would not want to reveal themselves because they will be killed the next night .. So a mass claim wouldn't work ..

Someone please correct me if im wrong but who me? was on all wagons..
FOS WHO ME Discuss

You've missed one more person .. Sonicpulsar was replaced by Peers .. And i've also striked off the people who are now dead on the wagons ..

Karen (11) - Flyinghawk , ChocolateAttack ,

WhoMe?

, Twomz ,

Sonicpulsar

,

Cephrir

, ZONEACE ,

Karen

,

UltimaAvalon

, Tarhalindur ,

theopor_COD

Thorn(9) - Kison ,

WhoMe?

, davidangelsummers , Kanaga , Blight , Tarhalindur ,

Sonicpulsar

, killerbob , ZONEACE

Cephrir (9) - curiouskarmadog ,

WhoMe?

, davidangelsummers , Twomz ,

dybeck

, Kanaga , ooba ,

Peers

, Flyinghawk

[WhoMe?]

hmm so Im being singled out by someone who was on 2 of the mislynches himself....

[davidangelsummers]

hmm so Im being singled out by someone who was on 2 of the mislynches himself....

Your completely right, I want to go back to basics and although it looks like CKD maybe lycned ,I wanted to have another dicussion along side it. When I was looking I actully exspected it to be some-one else. I dont think that you have been that scummy, hense the no vote but it did need pointing out and your reaction was interesting..
Thank you OOba for pointing out Peers, I do think he has a better case as he was a replacement. Saying that if the CKD vote is incorrect then Peers is on that vote too. As are you, Who me ..third vote too..untill I here the claim on CKD I cant make a proper judgement- I bet hes reading and waiting though.

[davidangelsummers]

Sorry about the broken english its a Norwegian thing

[WhoMe?]

In my defence, notice that I am an early vote in all cases.

[Peers]

In my defence, notice that I am an early vote in all cases.

Yes, almost as if you didn't care who got lynched, as long as it wasn't one of your scumbuddies.

In my defense, if I had been here the whole game... I probably would have voted Karen, too. I don't know if I would have voted Thorn. Has CKD been around to offer his claim yet, so we can begin debating if it's true or not?

[cicero]

I think DavidAngerSummers and WhoMe are both scum. What this page helps us learn is that they probably aren't scumBUDDIES.

[cicero]

I'm puzzling out in my head whether we should mass claim.

I do not see as to how it is not in everybody's best interests not to just claim townie .. Pro town power roles would not want to reveal themselves because they will be killed the next night .. So a mass claim wouldn't work ..

I pretty much agree with this. In most games with this townie to scum ratio I would call for a mass claim. In this one, it would basically just make the scum nightkill job easy for them and eliminate crosskills.

Town should start to be helped by ineffective nightkills now. No choice but to do it the old fashioned way I guess.

[Kison]

Kison, thinktank: You had voted for Cephir on Day One. What exactly has made you change your mind to not vote for him where there's a chance to actually lynch him?

Zone Facelift was higher priority for me later in the game. Didn't like his pushes on Karen and the other wagons first of all, but primarily disliked how he tried to justify Karen by claiming that scum weren't on the wagon because she was "beneficial to keep around"

In fact, I should probably be voting him now.

Vote : ZoneACE

CKD fucked up but I have a hard time seeing scum do that so blatantly. Could be wrong. Could be WIFOM. I dunno!

[davidangelsummers]

I think DavidAngerSummers and WhoMe are both scum. What this page helps us learn is that they probably aren't scumBUDDIES.

I see lots of your suggestions for and against people. I even see come contradictions (“Im stupid” ) and some back tracking ( we should mass claim, ow no we shouldn’t ) What I don’t see is a vote(Yes my vote is also not in, but ive said when and why)…Why did you not put a vote on me,
Even though you think im scum? Cuz you need town around….que your vote

[cicero]

I think DavidAngerSummers and WhoMe are both scum. What this page helps us learn is that they probably aren't scumBUDDIES.

I see lots of your suggestions for and against people. I even see come contradictions (“Im stupid” ) and some back tracking ( we should mass claim, ow no we shouldn’t ) What I don’t see is a vote(Yes my vote is also not in, but ive said when and why)…Why did you not put a vote on me,
Even though you think im scum? Cuz you need town around….que your vote

I'll vote when I'm good and ready. The project at the moment appears to be Curiouskarmadog. I'm not jumping on that wagon while it's at L-2 and I have a bunch of people I think are scummy. It takes time to figure out who is the right play. For example should I vote for WhoMe or You? Who is most likely to be scum? These things take time DAS. I might even change my mind about you. Suffice it to say, when I do throw down a vote there'll be good reasons. All I have right now is suspicions. Not enough for voting yet. As you rightly point out, I'm still getting my ahead around the setup. Then more read throughs, then more focus. And then votes.

But yes. At this moment, I think WhoMe is probably scum. And I think you are probably on the other team. But I can't say this definitely yet. That having been said, that doesn't make your "WhoMe" wagon a bad idea at all. But let's finish up our CKD business first though, shall we? hmmm?

[Twomz]

/waits for Cephrir...

Maybe I should start looking around so that we can discuss other players in case a quick lynch comes up /sigh.

[ZONEACE]

/waits for Cephrir...

you mean CKD right? cause well, Ceph was lynched yesterday