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New Vanilla Server?

Yes, on latest stable version; with fun events & mini-games!
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Yes, on latest stable version; for consistency & community! (no plugins)
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Yes, on "snapshots"/development versions; bleeding edge! (definitely no plugins)
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Yes, with Spigot/Bukkit/server "plugins" (or commands like /tpa, /home, etc.)
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Yes, but I'll post with my specific thoughts and ideas!
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Post Post #18900 (ISO) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:28 pm

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Actually thats not a bad idea. 1.10 vanilla server for a while until 1.10 modded is more stable?
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Post Post #18901 (ISO) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:57 pm

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Vaaaaannnnnniiiiiillllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post Post #18902 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:43 am

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In post 18898, davesaz wrote:If you don't mind playing for a few weeks and then switching to what we ultimately want that's an option too.
I like this one is the best
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Post Post #18903 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:26 am

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We can do that and it's easy enough to set up. The only problem was no one ever played :P but it only needs a gig or so of memory so I can create the server on our host if arch is ok to do the rest.
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Post Post #18904 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:32 am

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vanilla until he gets a set decision! Worst case scenario, we all have 2-3 months funtime together on vanilla before restarting again with new modpack

bestcase, we firmly implant the seed of vanillaisgr8 back in everyones' minds and convert back to nilla server!


(this is funny that I am now a champion of vanilla, after I was the original champion of modded that forced it down everyone's throats till it stuck)
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Post Post #18905 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:14 pm

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Ok, so Vanilla 1.10.2 works. IP is 162.223.8.203:25576

OP is updated.
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Post Post #18906 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:18 pm

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In post 18904, Maruchan wrote: bestcase, we firmly implant the seed of vanillaisgr8 back in everyones' minds and convert back to nilla server!
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Post Post #18907 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:19 pm

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there will always be a modded server :P I can't play without at least mouse tweaks and WAILA
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Post Post #18908 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:22 pm

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or some kind of automation options
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Post Post #18909 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:25 pm

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A minimalist quasi-vanilla is certainly possible as a 2nd option for folks who like a choice. I was even playing the old vanilla server with clientside mods on my own. :P
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Post Post #18910 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:17 pm

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How does that work? Just minor mods for interface and such that don't add a buncha nonsense? Cuz I could compromise there, sure.

Idk, I just like vanilla. The base game has enough to busy me and I've always felt like mods just made base game stuff irrelevant. Like I could make a thriving rail road system and build glorious cities and blablabla, or we could remove that potential by having teleporters, thus destroying fun.

Do you know what I mean Mr krabs?
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Post Post #18911 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:21 pm

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I think the draw is that a lot of the people who like modded aren't big builders. Some are, like Klaz, but he also really likes Vanilla. People like me or dav are more about creating more and more complex systems, rather than building. Because let's face it, neither of us can build beautiful things :lol:
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Post Post #18912 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:33 pm

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I guess that's fair. I never even figured out Redstone :P I don't even know what you guys do, I just wanna make pretty things.

......Is the printing press a mod, or was that a plug in before Microsoft killed bukkit? Cuz that might have been the only thing I liked, cuz I always wanted to build a grand library and deliver news letters and mass produced novels to the people of a grand city
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Post Post #18913 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:35 pm

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In post 18912, Elbirn wrote:Is the printing press a mod
You might be thinking of this.
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Post Post #18914 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:54 pm

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In post 18905, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Ok, so Vanilla 1.10.2 works. IP is 162.223.8.203:25576

OP is updated.
Neat! I will show up tonight!

The thing I like about Vanilla is how "horizontal" it is. No matter how many diamonds someone have, you are just one hour or two away from being "in the game". Modded is fun, but it is too vertical, in terms that everyone is trying to climb that tech tree.

That said, once they figure out a "Sky-factory" like modpack for 1.10, I'm sure I'll be all over it. Grinding in the void is addicting.
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Post Post #18915 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:08 pm

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3 skyblock modpacks are listed in the Curse client for 1.10.2. I can't vouch for stability though... ;)
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Post Post #18916 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:24 pm

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Nah, I'll wait until one gets popular enough for other people to vouch for it :-P
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Post Post #18917 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:39 pm

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Heads up on that 1.10.2 vanilla server, it has block lag :(.
Bumping the memory isn't something I seem to have access to.
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Post Post #18918 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:21 pm

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yeah no
a fresh vanilla server with 1 gb DOES NOT LAG

you have a issue with your server space itself, get in touch with your host.
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Post Post #18919 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:35 pm

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Also, block lag (blocks disappearing and reappearing) can be cause by large ping between client and server. Are you sure it is not on your end?
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Post Post #18920 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:39 pm

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The server is crashing with a watchdog timer (tick that takes more than 60 seconds).
This is not good. It isn't technically vanilla, ETL set it up with fast leaf decay and morpheus.
I'm gonna try pure vanilla and see what happens. If that doesn't work then it will be on ETL to bug the hosting company (or we'll have to consider other options).

Edit: Pure vanilla is working ok at least for now. The current world on the vanilla server has some interesting biomes around the spawn point, so unless it starts having problems we're good to go on the vanilla side.

Spoiler: tech stuff
The forge world performed horribly on vanilla (thought loading it on vanilla might help), so it's currently running a new one that was created with vanilla. This bodes well for the modded pack perhaps getting better performance if on a new world.
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Post Post #18921 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:04 pm

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In post 18907, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:there will always be a modded server :P I can't play without at least mouse tweaks and WAILA
You don't understand how hard I had to drag MS kicking and screeming into accepting mods. Then for the longest time they refused to give up their vanilla even though nobody used it anymore.
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Post Post #18922 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:08 pm

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IM LOGGING ON :D

(ALso I have 1gig min 4 gigs max RAM for this vanilla instance. Overkill? Perhaps. Wil lI still play with all graphics settings on fast and minimal? Yes. Will I get over 100 FPS? Most definitely.)
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Post Post #18923 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:17 pm

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spoke too soon about it being stable :(
another watchdog timer thing. this has to be something with the server's computing power, unless 1.10 is basically unstable even for vanilla
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Post Post #18924 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:18 pm

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wtf your character now auto jumps 1 block changes in heighth?

you kids these days and your lazy jumping.
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