Newbie 1725: Innocents, Inc. [Game Over!]

[MissTerry]

I just got home, I will be on and active for the next few hours.
I won't join a Thor wagon at this point, it's getting closer and closer to the deadline and we might not get a claim or anything at all before we have to hammer him. His absence is conveniently close to the deadline but I don't think he would fake a V/LA (semi or not), if he did that is a dirty dirty trick and not cool at all.

The whole Blank thing,
When I read the whole Serra thing I thought Blank was lynched until I read on and realized his vote was already on Blank to begin with. His response to that was townie, but I think there's a high chance that he knew Serra already had his vote on him, I think people generally pay attention to how many votes are on them, especially since he's not a newbie player. He's claimed, and claimed VT, lying or not one of the player's roles is out, forcing more players to claim roles only helps scum who to target at night.
I would still like to lynch him, I say let's do that.

If we MUST start another wagon, I'd go with Penguin. I don't like his more recent posts.
Why would he begin to get suspicious of Hark now, with little time left and him being the most town read player in the game. I think his dislike of Hark is very defensive, leaping on Hark because Hark is scumreading him. Some of Penguin's attacks on Hark feel nitpicky too, calling out Hark (post 838) because it's the "strongest language you've used all game" is uh, what?

[Loopdan]

Here are the things I don't like about MissTerry:

The reason for the Loopdan vote, that even others on the wagon said was a bad reason to vote me.

Talking about being tired and needing sleep as an excuse for not posting. If you can post about being tired, you can post a quick observation about the game.

Saying stuff like "I am very very confused", "Aha, getting interesting now are we?", "In defense of meself" (same post), "Lol", etc. Could be newbie nervousness, but it comes across as acting.

This vote...

Well that vote list is ridiculous...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shadow
Looked fine before but now he's slipping.

I really don't like the repeated use of the "You can't use that against me" argument. I pointed this out before. Here are all the times I've found where MT uses this type of defense:

I don't think Shadow can use the fact that I don't respond to questions and my logic doesn't quite add up to say i'm scum because when he is asked for his reasonings, he replies cryptically

His reads are very conflicting for me and I think this has been clear since the beginning of the game
and should not be something I can be scummed for.

I don't see how this statement can be convincingly argued against me.

I think that span of time is sufficient for my reads to change

So some oddball stuff, but I'm not seeing obvscum like Shadow and serrapaladin are.

Not crazy about this wagon, but here's my vote until something better magically appears...

VOTE: MissTerry

[MissTerry]

@Loop
How do you feel about getting back on the Blank wagon?

[Loopdan]

Not great.

[MissTerry]

Would you do it if deadline is looming?

Who else would you want lynch besides me and Thor and hesitantly Blank?
Would you lynch Penguin?

[Loopdan]

MissTerry, who would you like to lynch, in order?

[PenguinPower]

Why would he begin to get suspicious of Hark now

Just FYI...I've been on Hark is scumlean/null for about 10 days now...since post 281. So, you basing your swing from me being town to scum on that is suspect.

[Harkonnen97]

Okay...I know someone will make fun of me for using such a ridicilous AtE, but I want to say it.
MissTerry is female. Females are usually more emotional than males. Scum!MissTerry would be more cryptic and unemotional I think. Town!MissTerry would post whatever's on her mind, without worrying if it's scummy.

This is her first game. Newbscums are very closed and calculating, while newbtowns are very open and respond to everything. I think that Missy falls in the second category.

Pengo falls in the first category.

[Loopdan]

Whoever said MissTerry was female?

[serrapaladin]

If we MUST start another wagon, I'd go with Penguin. I don't like his more recent posts.
Why would he begin to get suspicious of Hark now, with little time left and him being the most town read player in the game. I think his dislike of Hark is very defensive, leaping on Hark because Hark is scumreading him. Some of Penguin's attacks on Hark feel nitpicky too, calling out Hark (post 838) because it's the "strongest language you've used all game" is uh, what?

I actually quite like his more recent posts. Why would town!peng not get suspicious of hark if he thinks hark has been acting suspicious. Start and end of days are generally the most dynamic times, and is when people respond to themselves and others being under genuine pressure, which evokes useful reactions. I quite liked the reference that he might be misreading loopdan, which is in no way relevant to what's currently going on, so scum in self-preservation mode would likely not think to say that.

[Harkonnen97]

Pengo I am 100% certain you switched your read on me to towny at one point after 281.

Besides, even if you've been scumreading me, why did you not push me?

[serrapaladin]

Whoever said MissTerry was female?

Yeah, it's clearly a pun, which could mean either.

[Loopdan]

And tell that to Ranger, Titus, and other top MS players who are female and play unemotionally.

[Harkonnen97]

TOP female players
TOP
Missterry isn't a top player yet.

[MissTerry]

Blank -> Penguin -> Serra -> Shadow -> Creature

@Loop
Your turn please

[Loopdan]

TOP female players
TOP
Missterry isn't a top player yet.

And so is by definition playing emotionally?

I can buy that MT is town, but that argument does nothing for me.

[MissTerry]

Since apparently this seems a topic for debate, I am female, but I don't see what this has to do with my play.

TOP female players
TOP
Missterry isn't a top player yet.

Yet is the key word here my friend

[PenguinPower]

Pengo I am 100% certain you switched your read on me to towny at one point after 281.

Besides, even if you've been scumreading me, why did you not push me?

I said you "looked more towny," after one of your posts. Not that you were towny. You moved to nullish until recently.

[serrapaladin]

@MT: That list correlates very little with your play for most of this day - it reads as a list of people you might be able to get lynched instead of you.

[Harkonnen97]

I was scum in my first game and was as unemotional and boring as my Math teacher. My second game I was town and was a whiny little bitch and used emotion in every single one of my posts. I realize different people play differently, but I think there is some similarity when it comes to new players, in regards to emotion.

My whole point is that MissTerry's posts that are like "too tired to post today" are NAI.

[serrapaladin]

I think MT's play has been pretty boring tbh.

[MissTerry]

That list is of people who might have any chance of getting lynched and I agree with period. My reads have changed throughout the game, especially in this last segment, like you said this is a very dynamic part of the game.
And I disagree that the list is only of people that might have a chance of getting lynched, neither Creaure nor Shadow have support of a lynch, and they're both on there. And I have expressed suspicions about them during the rest of the day as well.

[Loopdan]

Here's the problem: With Thor gone, we basically have 8 player votes available for any wagon other than BlankFace (where Thor's vote it). Assuming nobody self-votes, we need 5 of 7 votes to lynch. If we have a wagon on scum and the partner doesn't bus, we need 5 of 6 (assuming Thor is town here).

There is no time for other wagons. It's BlankFace or MissTerry.

Hark and Creature-- Choose a viable wagon, please.

BlankFace-- This is just like before with Thor. Are you going to vote your counter-wagon this time?

[Loopdan]

@MissTerry - Please explain why Blank is your top scum-read.

[Harkonnen97]

Anyway.
Sorry MT, but you haven't showed me anything that screams town. I would hammer you to avoid a nolynch.

Why doesn't anyone want to vote for Pengo?