Newbie 1725: Innocents, Inc. [Game Over!]

[BlankFace]

Which actually... makes me think you're town now that I think about it. You are going for the "Well it was deadline..." angle. You are pushing too hard to be able to weasel out of it tomorrow when I flip town.

[BlankFace]

Which actually... makes me think you're town now that I think about it. You

aren't

going for the "Well it was deadline..." angle. You are pushing too hard to be able to weasel out of it tomorrow when I flip town.

EBWOP

[Loopdan]

I highly dislike Loop's reaction. Sure, suspecting someone of hammering before stating intent is valid as town. But reading behind his lines, he was treated Blank as a town flip and was already starting to go against you.

I asked for a defense of his hammering without intent. I've stated repeatedly that we have time and shouldn't hammer too soon.

Also, Blank's reaction could be fake (as could mine). I wouldn't read too much into it.

[Harkonnen97]

Loop and Creature, why were you two so much against a different wagon and insisted that it was Blank/Thor?
You know, if Thor is somehow town, Creature/Loop scumteam is something I can see.

[Harkonnen97]

I've stated repeatedly that we have time and shouldn't hammer too soon.

If we have time, like you admit yourself, what's the problem with moving to another wagon?

[Loopdan]

Also, Hark, my demand for an explanation from Serra came after Blank replied to the "hammer" and said he was VT.

[Harkonnen97]

You just said that you believe that Blank's reaction could be fake.

Also, Blank's reaction could be fake (as could mine). I wouldn't read too much into it.

But in this post, you are implying that it is 100% true no matter what.

Also, Hark, my demand for an explanation from Serra came after Blank replied to the "hammer" and said he was VT.

???

[Loopdan]

Loop and Creature, why were you two so much against a different wagon and insisted that it was Blank/Thor?
You know, if Thor is somehow town, Creature/Loop scumteam is something I can see.

I never insisted the scum team was Blank/Thor. I said I was ok with either lynch at the time.

[Harkonnen97]

By Blank/Thor, I didn't mean scumpartners Blank and Thor, I meant lynch either Blank or Thor. You insisted that today's lynches are either Blank or Thor.

[Loopdan]

You just said that you believe that Blank's reaction could be fake.

Also, Blank's reaction could be fake (as could mine). I wouldn't read too much into it.

But in this post, you are implying that it is 100% true no matter what.

Also, Hark, my demand for an explanation from Serra came after Blank replied to the "hammer" and said he was VT.

???

I thought Serra hammered Blank without giving intent. Blank replied saying he was hammered and was VT. I demanded a defense of the hammer. Then I realized it wasn't a hammer. So just because I didn't realize the hammer was fake doesn't mean Blank didn't realize it was fake.

[Harkonnen97]

So what's your final verdict on Blank, Loop? Was his reaction fake or not? Should he be lynched today or not?

[Loopdan]

I don't know. I think it is more likely his response was genuine than fake. But I am also concerned with forcing another player to claim before we lynch.

My vote is still on Thor, for now.

[serrapaladin]

<3 Hark

so you think Blank didn't know I was voting for him? I was more interested in your and Loop's reaction tbh

I want off this crazy ride.

Off-topic:
Have I actually offended you this game? Because I'm getting that vibe? I'll save that talk for post game if I need to.

On-Topic:
I lost track of your vote when the Thor wagon started.

I saw a vote and thought I was free from being bitchy about this stupid wagon. Since I'm still alive, let me ask you then:

What is your case against me? You were the second person to join the wagon. Others have made it a point to seem reluctant about the wagon but you're pretty gung-ho about it.

You have not offended me, no. I genuinely thought you were scum because of your reaction to my AtE, where your first reaction talked to me like I was a frustrated townie, whereas when I mentioned I could vote for you, you switched to calling me scum that's trying to AtE his way out of things.

For what it's worth, my "AtE" was a genuine expression of my feelings about the attitud in this game to force a play style on others, and expect content on a deadline, which I think is harmful. I don't have any negative feelings towards individual, and it hasn't affected my enjoyment of the game beyond spending time on explaining myself that could have been spent more fruitfully.

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So how would people feel about an MT flashwagon?

[Harkonnen97]

So, Loop, you are ok with lynching someone who can't defend himself and can't claim?

[Harkonnen97]

So how would people feel about an MT flashwagon?

I disagree. I think she's an obvious newbtown.

[BlankFace]

I don't know. I think it is more likely his response was genuine than fake. But I am also concerned with forcing another player to claim before we lynch.

My vote is still on Thor, for now.

If you don't lynch me, someone else is claiming. No way around it.

If you lynch Thor, you are lynching without a claim.

I don't understand your logic here.

[BlankFace]

And now Creature lurks. /sarcasm

[Loopdan]

So, Loop, you are ok with lynching someone who can't defend himself and can't claim?

I don't know. I don't see a viable alternative. I've been very open about my thinking in the last 24 hours.

The Thor vote puts Blank at L-1. I intend to hammer Blank at deadline if there is no L-1 vote and intent to hammer on Thor.

If we're going to push another wagon, we won't get much support, and it's not a good idea as we're forcing another player to claim.

I made this point before. Blank has already claimed VT. We should not be forcing other claims at this point unless there is a clear target that is agreed upon.

Now Thor says he won't be back until after deadline, which means no claim from him. So do we lynch Thor with no claim or lynch Blank who already claimed VT? I'm leaning Blank based on that, but maybe that's Thor's strategy?

[BlankFace]

For real though, half of the players in this game are being incredibly quiet for it being 14 hours to deadline.

[Creature]

Blank is town.

[Creature]

Wait me return home.

[Harkonnen97]

>>>vote for Penguin or I'm vigging you tonight<<<

[Loopdan]

I don't know. I think it is more likely his response was genuine than fake. But I am also concerned with forcing another player to claim before we lynch.

My vote is still on Thor, for now.

If you don't lynch me, someone else is claiming. No way around it.

If you lynch Thor, you are lynching without a claim.

I don't understand your logic here.

That's why I said I don't know. The statements in that post are not intended to support each other in a logical argument.

[Creature]

What do you think about Thor665 townreading PenguinPower?

[Harkonnen97]

Thor flipping scum would make Penguin pretty much town imo.

Explain please