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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:39 am

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In post 703, Creature wrote:Meanwhile, we have PenguinPower...
lol, if we made him king, he'd likely forget to choose someone to lynch. So far he's just giving tiered readlists (lol who can't do that?).
Yeah...because I haven't posted rationale for my reads at all.
In post 708, MissTerry wrote:I would like to hear his response to this first.
Response to what? I don't see an actual question being asked of me.
In post 719, Harkonnen97 wrote:Shadow and Paladin are both playing in the exact same way. They both refuse to give their reads, they claim that it's pro-town, and tunnel on MissTerry. I am willing to bet it's Shadow/Paladin scumbros.
I don't see not providing complete reads as inherently anti-town or pro-town. I prefer to, but I can see why others weren't. IMO, neither Shadow or Paladin have show truly scummy behaviors thus far, but I like Paladin better than Shadow, mostly due to Shadow's extremly aggressive tunneling on MT.
In post 726, BlankFace wrote:If you were trying to be deliberately obtuse, pointing that fact out defeats the purpose. You act like scum don't have enough to go on as it is. Either you cooperate or I death tunnel you for the rest of the game. It is your call.
Comply or be destroyed...all else be damned? Yeah...that's helpful for the town. It's been about a week since you've contributed anything other than harping on Paladin's reads. You were iffy on Loop originally...what's your take now? What do you think about Creature?
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:40 am

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In post 743, Creature wrote:You mean that if MT flips town, you believe scum is in (Blank, Penguin, Thor)?
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:41 am

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Starting to re-consider this is mostly a serrapaladin's playstyle issue rather than scummy behavior.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:41 am

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In post 751, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 743, Creature wrote:You mean that if MT flips town, you believe scum is in (Blank, Penguin, Thor)?
pretty much
Would like to hear more.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:42 am

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In post 747, serrapaladin wrote:@shadow: thoughts on lynching creature?
Not today, I don't think. I'm not heavily sold on Creature being town but don't want to lynch them on day 1.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:44 am

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@Paladin--The similarity being that you believe that being transparent with your reads is pro-town. You've both explained your logic behind that, but the problem is this: by refusing to explain your stance, you give us less info. Sure, if you're town, that's a good thing. But what if you're scum? Then that isn't a good thing for us at all, is it? With your strategy, you are leaving us
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I don't think that it's worth to not give your town reads in fear of them getting night killed. We do have Power Roles after all.
And I don't think that this game is toxic. Sorry if you aren't enjoying it.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:44 am

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I'm not confident in my read on thor. His tone in attacking Loop feels different from when he tried to mislynch me as scum. His play is a bit more balanced here than in Zar's game. That being said, I won't pretend that I'm particularly good at reading him. If he's town, he's potentially a serious asset, so I wouldn't be happy with lynching him.

Penguin has been somewhat low-key, but consistent. It's the type of play that's fairly easy for moderately experienced scum to imitate, but I'm leaning town.

Would probably go for Peng over thor, but would rather keep both alive.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:48 am

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In post 753, Creature wrote:Would like to hear more.
because both of them(Penguin and Blank) really don't care who gets lynched between me or MT, if it comes to that, I've been attacking MT for a while now, but Penguin in spite of having a town read on MT hasn't attacked me for that.
Penguin only responded to me about what he thinks about the case on MT after I asked him twice, he ignored it the first time.
Blank doesn't really care what happens, he continues to vote Thor for some reason.
Thor because he is still voting Loop.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:55 am

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If MT was proven town, who would you lynch first?
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:56 am

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Pretty sure Blank is still voting me.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:59 am

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In post 757, Shadow_step wrote:because both of them(Penguin and Blank) really don't care who gets lynched between me or MT, if it comes to that, I've been attacking MT for a while now, but Penguin in spite of having a town read on MT hasn't attacked me for that.
You can have a townread on someone and still not find their attackers scummy, but you may have a point regarding to what degree they are seeking compromise.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:02 am

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In post 758, Creature wrote:If MT was proven town, who would you lynch first?
Blank-Penguin 60:40
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:03 am

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Could vote for Blank, actually.

Basically all of his posts since replacing in have been about me, and he's voting me, but it kind of sounds like he just wants me to play a certain way, not necessarily lynch me for being scummy. He's obviously aware of the looming deadline, but has probably put in the least effort in trying to compromise on a lynch.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:05 am

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tbh I am not that confident Blank is town.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:09 am

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In post 763, Creature wrote:tbh I am not that confident Blank is town.
Because of the post that Paladin just made, or for a different reason?
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:11 am

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Creature you are weirding me out. Your reads keep changing all the time.

I need to take a look at some of your past games to see if that's just your playstyle, or there's more to it.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:13 am

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In post 764, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 763, Creature wrote:tbh I am not that confident Blank is town.
Because of the post that Paladin just made, or for a different reason?
Yes and Shadow's.

I also started having paranoia of him before that.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:16 am

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Uh... How can I find some games of someone? Do I click their profile, click on "search user's posts", and look in there, or is there an easier way?
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:17 am

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I can give you links.

Town (Micro, 9p, singleball):
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Scum (Micro, 9p, singleball):
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=66946
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:18 am

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But you can go to my profile and click "view their topics"
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:19 am

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Oh nvm, I realized you also had a wiki page.

I will specifically
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:20 am

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Okay.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:41 am

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In post 762, serrapaladin wrote:Could vote for Blank, actually.

Basically all of his posts since replacing in have been about me, and he's voting me, but it kind of sounds like he just wants me to play a certain way, not necessarily lynch me for being scummy. He's obviously aware of the looming deadline, but has probably put in the least effort in trying to compromise on a lynch.
Oh no, i think you are scum. But I've already said my piece and I'm not going to contribute fodder for your AtEs.

Your reactions to that pressure alone is reason enough not to change my vote.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:39 am

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I will not vote Hark or Creature today. I am very unlikely to vote MT.

The rest is up for grabs.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 773, Loopdan wrote:I will not vote Hark or Creature today. I am very unlikely to vote MT.

The rest is up for grabs.
So you'll vote for yourself! Great, please get on that.

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