Newbie 1725: Innocents, Inc. [Game Over!]

[Creature]

idk I am more sure at now.

[BlankFace]

And then Loopdan came with meta.

If the lucca/serra slot is scum, this will become my signature.

If the slot is town, I'm acting like this post never happened.

Keep trying and you'll get your signature...

Um.....

[BlankFace]

Am I reading that wrong?

[serrapaladin]

yes

[Creature]

And then Loopdan came with meta.

If the lucca/serra slot is scum, this will become my signature.

If the slot is town, I'm acting like this post never happened.

There He Goes (with meta).

[Creature]

Can you just scumclaim?

[Loopdan]

Are you more sure on your meta point about me or thor?

I don't have a meta case on Thor. I read some of his completed games, but nothing jumped out at me.

From your first post, it looks like you've played with Thor before. What's your take on his play here?

[Creature]

My gut is screaming Thor is scum at this point.

[Creature]

serra or Thor

Take your pick.

[Loopdan]

@Creature-- Slow down. Serra hasn't posted a single read.

[Creature]

VOTE: Thor

Oh yeah. And I think he should start doing that.

[Loopdan]

If serra is scum, what incentive does he have to post reads if there is a wagon going? This is the perfect time to focus on analyzing a replacement's content, because there is nothing else going on. Get a wagon going and everyone moves on and gives serra a pass.

[Creature]

UNVOTE: Thor

Okay...

[Creature]

(expired on 2016-07-19 20:00:00)

serra, don't let this hit 0 without your reads.

[serrapaladin]

Nope, don't care.

I wanna talk to thor first.

And get some sleep.

[serrapaladin]

I'll just leave this here

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=60083

[MissTerry]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Serrapaladin
Welcome to our mess.
Please give reads.
(It's the middle of the night, will reply to questions to me tomorrow)

[Thor665]

Just kidding. I ain't waiting.

@Thor-- I didn't immediately place my vote on you because I'm still reading some of your meta, and I can't figure out if you are scum or town unable to reconsider reads. I think you've only made one pro-town comment about me since your first post.

Yeah - so you called me scummy for not doing it.
So I showed that I *had* done it - and then challenged you to do the same.
So the gauntlet toss down was by me, based off an attack you made against me.
Your quote proves you did list that as an issue in me, so what's your issue in me listing it as an issue with you?

[Thor665]

Found any scum yet, thor?

Loop and/or Creature is my wager.

@Thor: What was with that epic wall-exchange with Creature? Did your read on him progress throughout? I would have probably just told him to go away and focus on useful stuff...

The wall exchange started with me town reading him and ended with me scum reading him - I had a conversation about it with Loop while it was happening who asked about the same thing.

I had the conversation to try to figure out if he thought he was really scumhunting, or if he was just attacking lurkers as a way to avoid real scumhunting.
As he pretty much admits his case is nothing beyond lurk, and doesn't actually really describe how lurk is scum, he became a scum read.
That he has continued in that emptiness for the rest of the game has left him there.

But Loopdan came with a good meta point on lucca261.

What was your take of my dismissal of that meta?

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: MT

For emphasis

[Loopdan]

@Shadow -- Your Thor read?

[serrapaladin]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Serrapaladin
Welcome to our mess.
Please give reads.
(It's the middle of the night, will reply to questions to me tomorrow)

Are you a Mr. Ree alt?

So it's ridiculous to think that Thor would choose to lurk until prodded at game start as IC in a Newbie. I feel like Creature should know this. Or have figured it out by browsing some of Thor's games. Or change his mind when Thor directly pointed out how ridiculous it is. Or when the mod literally confirmed there were no links to the thread.

And then Loopdan came with meta.

If the lucca/serra slot is scum, this will become my signature.

If the slot is town, I'm acting like this post never happened.

This is probably town.

I also don't want to lynch thor today.

[Shadow_step]

@Shadow -- Your Thor read?

null town

[Creature]

At this point I am not scum reading Thor for "lurking".

[serrapaladin]

Got sidetracked on the Creature thing:

He's either stubborn/bad or scum. His defaulting to attacking the inactive slots when pressure on thor wasn't sticking has me mildly leaning towards the latter. Also his attitude towards Loop's meta on lucca feels opportunistic.