Newbie 1725: Innocents, Inc. [Game Over!]

Shadow_step · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:29 am

In post 498, Harkonnen97 wrote:Shadow, sorry if this sounds rude, but I think that you are either scum, or newbtown with an attitude problem.

I'm not scum or newbtown or have an attitude problem.
I have a legit reason to not share my reads. I don't want scum to kill off my town reads. Also, if you were smart enough it should be obvious enough what my reads on certain players are from my posts.

MissTerry · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:16 am

In post 500, Shadow_step wrote:I don't want scum to kill off my town reads.

My argument doesn't make sense but this does?

And I'm sorry but your "destroying" misses a huge chunk of my point.

Thor665 · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:29 am

In post 500, Shadow_step wrote:I have a legit reason to not share my reads. I don't want scum to kill off my town reads.

I will just toss out on a conceptual level - when I'm scum I rarely have much difficulty picking out the towniest player left in the game.
Maybe going into lylo/mylo sort of situations this might make sense as a concept, otherwise I don't really think it matters to say town reads.

I, personally, don't actually care about seeing your "reads" as I don't think reads walls are all that interesting.
I do think I'd like to see a concise description of the Miss Terry scum case though - I'm aware you're calling her scum, but couldn't describe why.

Thor665 · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:30 am

In post 501, MissTerry wrote:
In post 500, Shadow_step wrote:I don't want scum to kill off my town reads.
My argument doesn't make sense but this does?

And I'm sorry but your "destroying" misses a huge chunk of my point.

I will say I agree with him on that Lucca point though - are you kind of tunneling him? That point has no logical connection to a case, so it's questionable how it even got in there.

Shadow_step · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:35 am

In post 501, MissTerry wrote:
In post 500, Shadow_step wrote:I don't want scum to kill off my town reads.
My argument doesn't make sense but this does?

And I'm sorry but your "destroying" misses a huge chunk of my point.

Selectively answering the easy stuff.
Explain why I should find Lucca scummy for not responding when he hasn't responded to anything.

MissTerry · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:43 am

My point is not to a scumread Lucca or say that Shadow should be scumreading him instead.
He is being replaced anyways so there is no point in pressuring that slot until it fills agains.
I pointed out that BOTH Lucca (who hadn't posted anyways) and Blank (who has been active) hadn't reacted to Shadow's L-1 and yet he scumreads me for it while not the other two.

Shadow_step · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:46 am

In post 502, Thor665 wrote:
In post 500, Shadow_step wrote:I have a legit reason to not share my reads. I don't want scum to kill off my town reads.
I will just toss out on a conceptual level - when I'm scum I rarely have much difficulty picking out the towniest player left in the game.
Maybe going into lylo/mylo sort of situations this might make sense as a concept, otherwise I don't really think it matters to say town reads.

I, personally, don't actually care about seeing your "reads" as I don't think reads walls are all that interesting.
I do think I'd like to see a concise description of the Miss Terry scum case though - I'm aware you're calling her scum, but couldn't describe why.

Case on MT

1. Crappy reason to vote Loop, like it's completely fabricated. There is no way a townie mindset can arrive to that conclusion. The reason basically was, "He called himself town, so he must be scum."

2. When I voted Loop and put him on L-1, they did not attack me for it even when MT had started reading Loop as more town than scum.

3. Handwaiving my points against them. It's very easy as scum to say stuff like, "Yeah I can see why you find that scummy, but it's not and because of that I think you are town."
Cause as scum MT knows I'm town so its difficult for them to make a case on me and attack me.

4. Again the BS point about me not finding Lucca, also why wasn't this noticed first? Why did it conveniently only got noticed now?

Shadow_step · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:50 am

In post 505, MissTerry wrote:My point is not to a scumread Lucca or say that Shadow should be scumreading him instead.
He is being replaced anyways so there is no point in pressuring that slot until it fills agains.
I pointed out that BOTH Lucca (who hadn't posted anyways) and Blank (who has been active) hadn't reacted to Shadow's L-1 and yet he scumreads me for it while not the other two.

He hasn't had a chance to react you dumbass, why the fuck would I scum read Lucca.
Don't worry about blank, we'll lynch your buddy tomorrow.

This is MT trying to deflect the attention on Blankface and Lucca.

MissTerry · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:49 am

First of all, excuse you. I think you can make your points without directly insulting me repeatedly. It is uncalled for and just plain rude.

Second of all, my point focuses on your scumminess not Lucca or Blank. I don't see how mentioning them in an argument against you is deflecting attention to them.

Creature · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:52 am

Not lynching lucca261 because it's an empty slot is a garbage reason. If you feel more confident in that slot being scum than everybody else, there's no reason to not lynch it.

Shadow_step · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:53 am

It is, you are essentially saying. "Hey, why don't you look at them!!" "I'm innocent."

Creature · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:54 am

VOTE: PenguinPower

Now that Shadow is being quite more towny.

Creature · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:54 am

What makes me wonder is that MissTerry finely gave her thoughts even when Hark said he found a major scumslip.

PenguinPower · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:54 am

Alright, I'm back from my hell of a weekend. Give me a few to catch up, and I'll share where I'm at.

Creature · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:55 am

Okay BeetlejuicePower

Thor665 · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:55 am

In post 506, Shadow_step wrote:Case on MT

1. Crappy reason to vote Loop, like it's completely fabricated. There is no way a townie mindset can arrive to that conclusion. The reason basically was, "He called himself town, so he must be scum."

2. When I voted Loop and put him on L-1, they did not attack me for it even when MT had started reading Loop as more town than scum.

3. Handwaiving my points against them. It's very easy as scum to say stuff like, "Yeah I can see why you find that scummy, but it's not and because of that I think you are town."
Cause as scum MT knows I'm town so its difficult for them to make a case on me and attack me.

4. Again the BS point about me not finding Lucca, also why wasn't this noticed first? Why did it conveniently only got noticed now?

1. I feel like you've probably already seen enough games (like even our one that just ended) to understand town does insane things - like lynch people for no case, or ignoring blatant scum motivation. This isn't telling to me, especially in a newbie.

2. Isn't that more a tell about how they read the motivation of the action? Like, I would tend to believe that if I had townread Loop I would not have attacked your action either.

3. I will agree that could be a scum defensive maneuver.

4. I agree that is weird - it's actually the strongest point I think you have on the slot, I'm just not sure I see it as fleshed out enough to be a case, it does show some odd mental gymnastics though.

In post 507, Shadow_step wrote:He hasn't had a chance to react you dumbass

Slow your roll dude, no need for personal attacks, they're against site rules, are a bannable offense, and are pointless and rude.
Just don't.
Ever.

Shadow_step · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:56 am

#510 is in response to #508

MT you are making no sense. You are saying that I should be scum reading Lucca for not responding to me put Loop on l-1.
How would I scum read them when that a slot hasn't posted anything??
You on the other hand blatalantly ignored it.
Get the difference ?

Thor665 · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:56 am

In post 514, Creature wrote:Okay BeetlejuicePower

I don't choose to believe he was lying about a family medical emergency.

Shadow_step · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:59 am

In post 511, Creature wrote:VOTE: PenguinPower

Now that Shadow is being quite more towny.

You had sorta scum leans on MT, you don't agree with my case?
Why don't you vote MT?

Creature · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:59 am

In post 512, Creature wrote:What makes me wonder is that MissTerry finely gave her thoughts even when Hark said he found a major scumslip.

Creature · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:00 am

in her ISO

MissTerry · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:01 am

If we all keep playing like this, Day 1 is going to end with no lynch.
Which is what scum wants.

Creature · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:03 am

We have 4.75 days left.

Creature · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:04 am

Enough time for BeetlePower to catch up and have someone save lucca261's slot.

MissTerry · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:06 am

In post 516, Shadow_step wrote:#510 is in response to #508

MT you are making no sense. You are saying that I should be scum reading Lucca for not responding to me put Loop on l-1.
How would I scum read them when that a slot hasn't posted anything??
You on the other hand blatalantly ignored it.
Get the difference ?

Again, I did not say you should be scumreading Lucca. I questioned your modivations for targeting only me from the people who did not react.