Newbie 1725: Innocents, Inc. [Game Over!]

[Shadow_step]

Blankface we can be friends if you vote MissTerry.

[Shadow_step]

@ Creature, I'm waiting for you to explain your non existent case on me.

[Shadow_step]

In post 430, MT says that she is unvoting Loop because the people on the wagon have moved elsewhere which is complete BS.
I'm the only one that voted and unvoted him but it was never a serious vote so that doesn't really count.
Reeks of scum not wanting to be on the mislunch wagon.

[Thor665]

I agree that her comment was bull-hookey, because I felt the same way - the thing is, it's not like the Loop wagon was blistering forward at a blinding pace so she could hop off it and laugh as it went through either, so I'm not following the scumtell aspect of that call.

[Loopdan]

The only reason you'd vote an empty slot is if you're planning to lynch, so:
Is everyone fine with lucca lynch?
Do you think we should end the day now?

I'm definitely not okay with lynching someone who can't even defend themself. An exception to that would be if the slot is blatant and obvious scum - which in this case, it isn't. Waiting for lucca's replacement and judging the slot by that is better.

I am

not

OK with lynching Lucca before a replacement. I would, however, like the replacement to arrive and feel some immediate pressure.

[Loopdan]

In 1706, townLucca showed a much deeper level of analysis and was much more accusatory early on than Lucca has been in our game.

Lucca hasn't really been in our game, though.
His last time on site was concurrent with his last post in this game.
Why would you think this is strategic?

Note my use of "early on." When I read lucca's ISOs side by side, it was apparent that there was an immediate ease to his play in the other game that was not present at the start of our game.

I am not saying the inactivity is scummy. I'm saying the content of his posts is superficial here compared to the in-depth work he did at the start of his last (town) game.

[MissTerry]

I didn't like MT's reaction to me putting Loop on l-1. Which was basically he/she/it didn't react to it at all.

In post #363 they say that they are not so sure on Loop being scum as they were before, so you'd think they would attack me for voting Loop and putting him on l-1.

I isoed them and it looks horrible I must say.

How come Shadow doesn't like my reaction to his L-1, which was no reaction, while both Lucca and Blank also had no reaction. It should at least be worth mentioning that I was not the only one with his "no reaction" and why does he say that makes me scummy while the others two not.

[Thor665]

In 1706, townLucca showed a much deeper level of analysis and was much more accusatory early on than Lucca has been in our game.

Lucca hasn't really been in our game, though.
His last time on site was concurrent with his last post in this game.
Why would you think this is strategic?

Note my use of "early on." When I read lucca's ISOs side by side, it was apparent that there was an immediate ease to his play in the other game that was not present at the start of our game.

I am not saying the inactivity is scummy. I'm saying the content of his posts is superficial here compared to the in-depth work he did at the start of his last (town) game.

Okay, I'm half buying - you have a link to this example game?

[Loopdan]

In 1706, townLucca showed a much deeper level of analysis and was much more accusatory early on than Lucca has been in our game.

Lucca hasn't really been in our game, though.
His last time on site was concurrent with his last post in this game.
Why would you think this is strategic?

Note my use of "early on." When I read lucca's ISOs side by side, it was apparent that there was an immediate ease to his play in the other game that was not present at the start of our game.

I am not saying the inactivity is scummy. I'm saying the content of his posts is superficial here compared to the in-depth work he did at the start of his last (town) game.

Okay, I'm half buying - you have a link to this example game?

Lucca's previous game on MS. Lucca shows up in post 35.

[Thor665]

Lucca's previous game on MS. Lucca shows up in post 35.

Not really seeing it, he takes a few real life days to warm up in that game also.
In this game he has a point of specifically citing lack of info thus far but still gives a small reads wall.
Then the flake.

So if you're seeing anything you're trying to make a meta claim for how he might handle the first 48 hours of a game with a sample size of 1 game.
Even if there are differences (and there are, sure) but *real* differences that speak to alignment, I can't imagine actually picking anything out with even the slimmest amount of credibility to then cite it as scummy or townish.

[innocentvillager]

	VOTECOUNT 1.8
Player	Being voted by (in chronological order)	Number of Votes
1. PenguinPower
2. MissTerry	Shadow_step	1
3. lucca261	Loopdan	1
4. Harkonnen97
5. Loopdan	PenguinPower, Thor665	2
6. Creature	MissTerry	1
7. BlankFace	lucca261	1
8. Shadow_step	Harkonnen97, Creature	2
9. Thor665	BlankFace	1

Not voting:

Deadline to lynch is in (expired on 2016-07-23 01:09:00)

With 9 eligible to vote, it's 5 to lynch

Please let me know if there are errors in the VC, or have any other questions in general. Don't forget to bold such requests to me.

[Thor665]

	VOTECOUNT 1.8
Player	Being voted by (in chronological order)	Number of Votes
1. PenguinPower
2. MissTerry	Shadow_step	1
3. lucca261	Loopdan	1
4. Harkonnen97
5. Loopdan	PenguinPower, Thor665	2
6. Creature	MissTerry	1
7. BlankFace	lucca261	1
8. Shadow_step	Harkonnen97, Creature	1
9. Thor665	BlankFace	1

Not voting:

Deadline to lynch is in (expired on 2016-07-23 01:09:00)

With 9 eligible to vote, it's 5 to lynch

Please let me know if there are errors in the VC, or have any other questions in general. Don't forget to bold such requests to me.

I present to you our latest artistic masterpiece.
I title it 'Vanity'

It is time for a *new* artwork.
Called compromise.

A bunch of single votes is silly - we are not applying pressure, everyone is sitting on a vanity wagon that is headed nowhere fast.
Some votes should consolidate.

The strongest wagons are Shadow and Loop - they are good places to start.
If you hate both and see someone sitting on a single wagon on, say, your second top scumread you should probably move there, becuse with that single action you'd tie for first strongest wagon.

[Loopdan]

I'd like updated reads from Penguin, Shadow, and BlankFace first.

[MissTerry]

Well that vote list is ridiculous...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shadow
Looked fine before but now he's slipping.

[MissTerry]

	VOTECOUNT 1.8
Player	Being voted by (in chronological order)	Number of Votes
1. PenguinPower
2. MissTerry	Shadow_step	1
3. lucca261	Loopdan	1
4. Harkonnen97
5. Loopdan	PenguinPower, Thor665	2
6. Creature	MissTerry	1
7. BlankFace	lucca261	1
8. Shadow_step	Harkonnen97, Creature	1
9. Thor665	BlankFace	1

Not voting:

Deadline to lynch is in (expired on 2016-07-23 01:09:00)

With 9 eligible to vote, it's 5 to lynch

Please let me know if there are errors in the VC, or have any other questions in general. Don't forget to bold such requests to me.

Shadow had two votes (now three after mine)

Thanks, fixed! -IV

[Shadow_step]

Brilliant, this is what I wanted.
Now that my wagon gains some traction and I raise more points against MT, their town read on me suddenly vanishes and they conveniently vote me.

Can we please fucking lynch this

[MissTerry]

Also concerning these votes. I don't see the point of having a lucca vote, he is not here to defend himself at the moment and is taking a while to be replaced. I think a vote would serve better in digging out scum on another player, one who can reply.

[Harkonnen97]

Brilliant, this is what I wanted.
Now that my wagon gains some traction and I raise more points against MT, their town read on me suddenly vanishes and they conveniently vote me.

Can we please fucking lynch this

YOUR READS PLEASE FFS

[Harkonnen97]

Sorry for the caps. But it's starting to get slightly annoying. Do you even have reads, or are you making a monkey out of me?

[MissTerry]

Brilliant, this is what I wanted.
Now that my wagon gains some traction and I raise more points against MT, their town read on me suddenly vanishes and they conveniently vote me.

Can we please fucking lynch this

Lol, 481 already voiced some of the doubts I have had about you, one you conveniently didn't reply to, or to Loop's request for reads.
You raise more points against me where exactly? So far your points are calling my points bull.

You are the scummiest of the wagons atm, there are less than 5 days left, a no lynch does not help the town.

You are looking more and more scummy for tunneling.

[Shadow_step]

Why the fuck do you want my reads??!!!
We can only lynch one scum today and that scum is MT, just vote her ffs.

[Shadow_step]

Brilliant, this is what I wanted.
Now that my wagon gains some traction and I raise more points against MT, their town read on me suddenly vanishes and they conveniently vote me.

Can we please fucking lynch this

Lol, 481 already voiced some of the doubts I have had about you, one you conveniently didn't reply to, or to Loop's request for reads.
You raise more points against me where exactly? So far your points are calling my points bull.

You are the scummiest of the wagons atm, there are less than 5 days left, a no lynch does not help the town.

You are looking more and more scummy for tunneling.

"Lol" is typical scum response.
#481 is full of garbage. It isn't even worth responding to. But since you want me to, I'll destroy it for you.

[Shadow_step]

I didn't like MT's reaction to me putting Loop on l-1. Which was basically he/she/it didn't react to it at all.

In post #363 they say that they are not so sure on Loop being scum as they were before, so you'd think they would attack me for voting Loop and putting him on l-1.

I isoed them and it looks horrible I must say.

How come Shadow doesn't like my reaction to his L-1, which was no reaction, while both Lucca and Blank also had no reaction. It should at least be worth mentioning that I was not the only one with his "no reaction" and why does he say that makes me scummy while the others two not.

Lucca hasn't posted only since I replaced in, so it isn't like he's ignored my l-1 vote on Loop and commented on other stuff.
SO PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHY THE FUCK WOULD I FIND THAT SLOT SCUMMY, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN POSTING AT ALL.

[Harkonnen97]

Shadow, sorry if this sounds rude, but I think that you are either scum, or newbtown with an attitude problem.

[Shadow_step]

@Loop, you're vote on Lucca is a waste, can you switch to MT please. Thanks