Mafia v. Wolves Redux: Finally Over!


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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:51 pm

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Thok wrote:ThAdmiral, what happened last night?
Thok and akbar. (surprise, surprise)
Thok wrote:I've been neglegent with this, but I'd like to hear first names from the ESE members and ThAdmiral.
I am just Hilda.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:35 pm

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I agree with thok's analysis. As such, I will await here for ThAdmiral's response.
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:35 pm

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ThAdmiral, who's the play?
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:26 am

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I'm just having a look at voting records. This may take a day or two.
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:47 am

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While we're waiting for ThAdmiral.

Akbar-who's the play?

Fritz can answer this question also. (The Fonz has already said who he thinks the play is.)
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:33 am

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Posting some thoughts

1. If Akbar is a werewolf, he's essentially proven to be a werewolf power role, but probably not a werewolf doctor. There isn't really a way to teling what Akbar's role power is.

2. Looking at what I believe to be the werewolf kill types to given them some organization

Day kills-N1 (D2 Mr. Flay), N4 (D5 Kison)
Eaten-N3 (Shanba), N5 (Lowell)
Nothing?-N2, N6, N7, N8

This makes me wonder if the day kills take a certain amount of preparation.
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:29 pm

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Can we get mass proddage?
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:17 am

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Prodded several the other day, but will do so again... :?
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:03 pm

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Thok wrote:Posting some thoughts

1. If Akbar is a werewolf, he's essentially proven to be a werewolf power role, but probably not a werewolf doctor. There isn't really a way to teling what Akbar's role power is.

2. Looking at what I believe to be the werewolf kill types to given them some organization

Day kills-N1 (D2 Mr. Flay), N4 (D5 Kison)
Eaten-N3 (Shanba), N5 (Lowell)
Nothing?-N2, N6, N7, N8

This makes me wonder if the day kills take a certain amount of preparation.
I wonder if one of the wolf roles can only kill on odd nights (whatever role we have left) and one only during hte day (which is gone)

the play is probably either thadmiral or akbar
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:06 pm

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MOS (the one known lycanthrope) was dead by night 3, so he can't have done either of the N4 or N5 kills.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:14 am

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Really like to hear ThAdmiral's thoughts.
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:22 pm

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Sorry guys had a lot of work recently and haven't finished the analysis.

I don't reckon it's the masons though.
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:29 pm

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ThAdmiral wrote:Sorry guys had a lot of work recently and haven't finished the analysis.

I don't reckon it's the masons though.
^5

so who should we lynch?
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:51 pm

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Voting data on Thok(xreyox) and Akbar is as such:
Green = town
Red = scum
dnv = did not vote

Day one:
Akbar - PBuG (now me)
Thok - dnv

Day two:
Akbar -
bm

Thok - dnv

Day three:
Akbar -
IH

Thok - dnv

Day four:
Akbar -
bm

Thok -
bird1111


Day five:
Akbar -
theopor_cod

Thok -
theopor_cod


Day six:
Akbar -
bm

Thok -
bm


Day seven:
Akbar -
setael

Thok -
setael


Day eight:
Akbar - dnv
Thok -
tarharlindur
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:05 pm

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Unfortunately this doesn't tell us much, in fact is says basically nothing if the last surviving anti-town agent is a werewolf, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is the case.

The only other thing I'm thinking right now is of a game I played recently where mos, me and a few others were around in the end-game. MoS looked every bit the pro-town player and was directing most of the play and it turned out that he was the last scum. I thought afterwards that I should have realized it was a bit weird that he was never killed by the scum, given what a good reputation he had.
This leads me to suspect that thok may be the last werewolf.
I need to think about this more though.
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:24 pm

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ThAdmiral wrote:The only other thing I'm thinking right now is of a game I played recently where mos, me and a few others were around in the end-game. MoS looked every bit the pro-town player and was directing most of the play and it turned out that he was the last scum. I thought afterwards that I should have realized it was a bit weird that he was never killed by the scum, given what a good reputation he had.
This leads me to suspect that thok may be the last werewolf.
I need to think about this more though.
I assume you're thinking about Jack of all Trades. Of course, this is a different game.

I replaced in day 4. Before that my role was played by XReyoX, who didn't have a good reputation and who was attacked by many people. By Night 4, the mass tracker had been outed and scum knew they couldn't kill without being tracked. In addition, there were a lot of power roles that various scum groups had to worry about (this specifically covers night 4, as I hadn't been outed yet as a roleblocker that night, but PBug, N9V, and Akbar had all claimed, and all of them would be high profile targets.)

If you feel I'm suspicious for not having been killed night 5 onward, feh. But we've only had one kill since night 5, and assuming that Setael was the last mafia, the mafia haven't had chance to kill since then (since I was blocking Setael night 5 and night 6).
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:35 pm

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Also, Akbar hasn't post anywhere on MS in 9 days. Does he need to be replaced?
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:24 pm

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Thok wrote:If you feel I'm suspicious for not having been killed night 5 onward, feh. But we've only had one kill since night 5, and assuming that Setael was the last mafia, the mafia haven't had chance to kill since then (since I was blocking Setael night 5 and night 6).
This is a good point.

In that case I'm leaning towards akbar.
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:59 am

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Kakeng replaces Akbar effective immediately.

With that, the last original player still alive is gone from this game... :?
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:46 pm

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Got bored, so I sat down and read over Lowell to see if he said anything useful. The only thing I could see is that he voted The Fonz based on a hunch.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:21 pm

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Well..., if you excuse me, I need to read this thread. See you in 2 or so days.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:37 am

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ThAdmiral wrote:
Thok wrote:If you feel I'm suspicious for not having been killed night 5 onward, feh. But we've only had one kill since night 5, and assuming that Setael was the last mafia, the mafia haven't had chance to kill since then (since I was blocking Setael night 5 and night 6).
This is a good point.

In that case I'm leaning towards akbar.
Basically, as far as I'm concerned, Thok is basically confirmed by Reyo's breadcrumbs, and N9V (who died at night) claiming to have been RBed because 'a drunk guy stumbled into him.' You have also been seen out on your broom, and are therefore definitely a witch. We have no such knowledge about Kakeng.
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:16 am

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The Fonz wrote:Basically, as far as I'm concerned, Thok is basically confirmed by Reyo's breadcrumbs, and N9V (who died at night) claiming to have been RBed because 'a drunk guy stumbled into him.' You have also been seen out on your broom, and are therefore definitely a witch. We have no such knowledge about Kakeng.
Feh. At this point I'm tempted to agree with you (although the whole Akbar is scum because everybody else has a confirmedish role argument annoys my sense of game design). I'm trying to decide if it's worthwhile to make a safety play of leaving Akbar/Kakeng for tomorrow, on the theory that if he's scum then my roleblocking will keep him from doing stuff and that allows us to test another scum group theory if necessary. However, I'm not convinced that town has enough trust in me to try such play, and there's the whole daykill thing which would cause problems also.

Fonz, is there any reason you aren't voting?

Kakeng, have anything useful to say?
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:52 pm

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First Vote Count of Day Nine:

No one!


5: Not Voting (Akbar, Thok, The Fonz, Fritzler, ThAdmiral)


With five alive, it will take three votes to lynch.
However since posting has come to a complete standstill, you are now
deadlined for Friday, Nov. 16th
; per Phoebus' original rule #7, you must
still have three voters to lynch
, since there are less than six players alive. Either way, Day Nine will end; this deadline can be extended if posting
really
picks up... :?
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:46 am

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Vote: Kakeng


Deeply annoyed at the lack of contribution of the only two people i think could be scum.

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