Mini 1811 [Game Over]

Robbnva · Post Post #825 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:57 am

In post 822, Tam wrote:Wow, in a nutshell, no Robb, I posted a few times EXACTLY why I voted.

Ok and I asked you to please point them out to me. Quotes would be best, Links are ok too, post numbers would just be lazy but also acceptable

Impoetic · Post Post #826 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:58 am

You seem to give people more credit as logical beings than I do, in general. This mentality on my part probably stems in part from my only experience being in java-based mafia (where no one has the time to really think things throuhg) but rather than thinking it showed a town mindset, my thought in the last post was that "calling the team" and being sure of yourself is a lot easier when you aren't actually looking for a specific team in a bunch of players you know nothing about.

Robbnva · Post Post #827 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:01 am

In post 822, Tam wrote:I then tried really hard to help him out, thinking maybe he was a townie who was misunderstood, as I have been in that spot before and it's frustrating.

So why is his stubbornness a scum tell? Why can't it just be the way he plays, or like me a personality trait.

I'm one of the most stubborn people on this site. People try to make me change my mind and I absolutely refuse. for me that's actually more of a town tell (except for me, it's non AI for me) because again scum want to keep their options open. They don't want to alienate themselves. They want to at least give off the appearance they are "helping" and "being useful"

Robbnva · Post Post #828 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:04 am

In post 826, Impoetic wrote:You seem to give people more credit as logical beings than I do, in general. This mentality on my part probably stems in part from my only experience being in java-based mafia (where no one has the time to really think things throuhg) but rather than thinking it showed a town mindset, my thought in the last post was that "calling the team" and being sure of yourself is a lot easier when you aren't actually looking for a specific team in a bunch of players you know nothing about.

I just try to process in my mind what makes sense. I see townies more often than not call scum teams. Do scum do it also? Possible I guess.
People keep telling me to look at scum motivation. What would the scum motivation for locking himself into certain reads and refusing to change them?

Robbnva · Post Post #829 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:07 am

In post 822, Tam wrote:Also, what did I do that suddenly I am catching votes? I missed something clearly. I would like to point out that while I am being blamed for not giving reasons for my vote, NOT A SINGLE VOTER OF ME IN THIS GAME HAS GIVEN A REASON. They have all just either said Vote...like JaeReed and murder, or said I say all the right things, which is literally the opposite of saying the wrong things. I have asked that these people elaborate but when getting no response from anyone about it, just blew it off, because it didn't seem valid to me.

Can anyone give me an actual reason why I'm suspicious? Again, it would be nice to have something to actu

Now you are in the same situation my predecessor was in. He thought nobody had reasons for him yet you wanted him to defend himself iirc.

Did you go and look at who is voting you yet and see why? I doubt nobody gave a reason

Impoetic · Post Post #830 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:07 am

In post 822, Tam wrote:Also, I don't feel my revote of Trivium to have been wishy washy at all. I never said I was unvoting him permanently, I said quite clearly that it was just to see how it all played out, because he finally had taken my advice and tried defending himself instead of whining. When he then flipped out again on the people who he had just convinced to unvote him, it was a major red flag for me. Please note that HE DID NOT ATTACK ME he was after Bacde...who then turned the tables somehow and shifted the blame on me. It was not a defensive move. It was more of an epiphany that he was scum. I still can not even imagine what it is I actually did to look scummy. And since then the two votes I've gotten have not said anything about why they voted me.

Wait, why is it a scumtell for Trivium to attack the people who unvoted???

Predit: To towntell. People think of all different things as towny. People panic, as town or scum. I don't know all the differences I have to take into account when playing forum mafia like this, but htat is my experience, and my experience isn't the same as yours.

anyone who thinks it's an indicator is a horrible player [paraphrased]

:'(

Impoetic · Post Post #831 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:12 am

VOTE: Unvote bc i have no idea wtf was going through my head in voting ira now that I look back on it. Almost considering apologizing and subbing out again because I'm clearly having trouble keeping these two games in order mentality (I just posted something meant for this thread in the other one).

Robbnva · Post Post #832 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:18 am

Please don't sub out.

Robbnva · Post Post #833 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:19 am

And sorry. I'm supposed to work on being mean. It's a bad habit of mine.

Robbnva · Post Post #834 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:21 am

In post 807, Robbnva wrote:
In post 642, Tam wrote:I am glad you feel that way, because I am ready to vote Trivium based on his logic defying me and some really shady seeming actions.
I can't see where you point out any of these things. Would you please do that? On the surface it looks like you just blindly sheep jaereed.

@tam - I just looked over your I so again and before this post you don't really point out anything. Your vote implies you have good reason for it so I want to see the things you are accusing him of since you don't do it in the game thread.

Impoetic · Post Post #835 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:22 am

No no no, I said almost! And if I did end up subbing out it'd probably be from the other one, which would currently be less of a chore to find a replacement for.

Also, Tam looks to be agreeing with you about defensiveness, fmpov.

Robbnva · Post Post #836 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:15 am

Imp. Why did you vote Ira to begin with?

Impoetic · Post Post #837 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:39 am

In post 831, Impoetic wrote:VOTE: Unvote bc i have no idea wtf was going through my head in voting ira now that I look back on it. Almost considering apologizing and subbing out again because I'm clearly having trouble keeping these two games in order mentality (I just posted something meant for this thread in the other one).

Bacde · Post Post #838 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

In post 808, Robbnva wrote:
In post 87, Bacde wrote:omg this is such obvious bs man its page 4 why are you explaining so much
Explaining too much is somehow scummy?

Oh wait tomato avatar.

Nvm but that's a bad post if you are town just saying.

I only have one question for you. Being completely honest here. How serious on a scale of 1-10 was your push on tivium?

who are you and why are you pretending to be good at mafia?

Bacde · Post Post #839 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:09 pm

yes explaining too much is scummy

explanations for behavior are stupid because you can always make something fake up

behavior itself can't be faked tho, its why I don't really give a lot of credence to people explaining shit and try to instead look at their actions

Bacde · Post Post #840 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:10 pm

somehow a carebear is better than a tomato?

you sound jealous

Impoetic · Post Post #841 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:18 pm

In post 840, Bacde wrote:somehow a carebear is better than a tomato?

you sound jealous

don't let him get to you bacde your tomato icon rocks

Bacde · Post Post #842 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:20 pm

In post 841, Impoetic wrote:
In post 840, Bacde wrote:somehow a carebear is better than a tomato?

you sound jealous
don't let him get to you bacde your tomato icon rocks

thanks buddy

i hope you stay in this game =]

Robbnva · Post Post #843 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:33 pm

I'm not pretending to be anything. I completely disagree with you on that though.

I also don't have an issue with your avatar. It just triggered a memory for me.

Bacde · Post Post #844 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:11 pm

In post 843, Robbnva wrote:I'm not pretending to be anything. I completely disagree with you on that though.

I also don't have an issue with your avatar. It just triggered a memory for me.

ugh why are you tearing apart all the townread i built on trivium

its like i want to switch back to you for some reason

Impoetic · Post Post #845 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 844, Bacde wrote:
In post 843, Robbnva wrote:I'm not pretending to be anything. I completely disagree with you on that though.

I also don't have an issue with your avatar. It just triggered a memory for me.
ugh why are you tearing apart all the townread i built on trivium

its like i want to switch back to you for some reason

I thought that post was NAI. If you tr one slot and sr the other, perhaps it has more to do with personality than alignment or one being a genius at towntelling as mafia or whatever.

Nahdia · Post Post #846 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:32 pm

JarJarDrinks has been prodded.

Robbnva · Post Post #847 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 844, Bacde wrote:
In post 843, Robbnva wrote:I'm not pretending to be anything. I completely disagree with you on that though.

I also don't have an issue with your avatar. It just triggered a memory for me.
ugh why are you tearing apart all the townread i built on trivium

its like i want to switch back to you for some reason

Dude If me disagreeing with you makes you think I'm scum, you better just vote me now cause that opinion was really bad. But I'm not really sure why your read would change on somebody just cause they don't share your opinions. That's kind of a narrow minded thought process and I really should know cause I used to be the king of narrow minded thought processes.

Accountant · Post Post #848 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:41 pm

What do you think about iraonvp?

Robbnva · Post Post #849 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:41 pm

Explaining too much almost never comes from scum imo. Sure it happens but the more transparent your posts are the more you open yourself up to having your posts analyzed. If you say something that looks like BS your more likely going to be called on it.

I've seen scum be verbal (toolendo or however you say his name comes to mind in a game that recently finished) but that's atypical from my experiences. And if scum players want to talk more, please do so. Over time it will be much easier to catch them.