503: Dead People Have Powers - Happiness Or Destruction?

[Setael]

We've hardly got the game in the bag. We don't even know if the cop will ever make any investigations since he didn't last night and has now disappeared.

@kilroy: if you can't play, please ask for a replacement. Your role is pretty key to us.

[Night_Light]

I think it's worthwhile to try and find our cop so that they can try to make a protect if for some reason it become necessary. Because we have a deadline coming up, I am willing to

vote: randomacts

[Y]

I'm still against any more townies lynch. This is the catch of the game. It looks pretty easy until the town goes mad killing itself carelessly.

[Kilroy8675309]

I'm assuming you mean Doc, Night Light?

I can play. I'm back, I'm here, I'm playing, I'm suggesting we lynch D_O.

[Setael]

Y and kilroy: What happens if whoever we wagon is randomly the Town Spiritualist and is forced to claim? What then?

[DeliciousGoldfish]

They cannot kill people can only use their powers when dead (i.e. in purgatory) sorry for any confusion on the matter

In that case, we've easily got this game in the bag. I seriously doubt one Scum can out-Lynch the entire Town, especially with a Cop running about. For the sake of keeping our Cop useful, we should definitely Lynch the Doc today so he can protect the Channeler every Night. To the Channeler, just don't claim until we've verified today's Lynchee as the real Doc.

Unfortunately, it seems our cop is absolutely useless...

[Setael]

DG - the cop said he's back and playing now. This comment of yours pinged my scumdar...

[Y]

Y and kilroy: What happens if whoever we wagon is randomly the Town Spiritualist and is forced to claim? What then?

I think we should try and kill the scum-doc. During the night Kilroy investigates some one and we hope he finds scum.

[ckillor]

just to get things rolling

Vote: randomacts

i get a much better feeling from him that he is the doc, though if it ends up being liek how we all though kabenon was the cop im probably wrong. i would like to see more from both claimers, possibly prods

[Setael]

I think we should try and kill the scum-doc. During the night Kilroy investigates some one and we hope he finds scum.

2 things.

1) You keep avoiding my question. What happens if the Town Spiritualist has to claim and the doc isn't able to protect?

2) Why are you so motivated to let scum NK tonight?

[Y]

I wish we don't get to a state where we make the spiritualist claim. We kill who we think is scum and then try to kill another one and then the last one. Using the cop as much as we can. We do have a good suspect list.
I also think that as long as the scum spiritualist is alive, it doesn't matter if our spiritualist is dead.

Why are you so motivated to let scum NK tonight?

I'm not, I just don't like the alternative - Killing any more townies on purpose. We'll have to kill scum eventually, and I think we should have as many live townies once the NKs begin. You may go and kill more townies if you like, but don't blame me if the town loses as soon as the lynch scene ends.

[Draux]

just to get things rolling

Vote: randomacts

i get a much better feeling from him that he is the doc, though if it ends up being liek how we all though kabenon was the cop im probably wrong. i would like to see more from both claimers, possibly prods

I

seriously

think we should wait for Spambot's replacement before jumping to conclusions. I realise there's a deadline, but "getting things rolling" by casting semi-educated Votes is not the way to go at this point. Hopefully, Max finds a replacement before the deadline.

[ckillor]

i didnt realize there was going to be a replacement, once they start posting or a bandwagon builds on randomacts really quickly, i may remove my vote

[Kilroy8675309]

If we find the spiritualist, then yes, we're boned. But D_O is running around with a big neon "I'M SCUM!" sign. I'm pretty set on him.

[Setael]

I sure wish you'd have investigated him last night. There is a CHANCE he's the spiritualist and I'm not willing to take that chance. We need to lynch our doc.

Plus tonight there will be no NK unless we lynch scum today. We need to take advantage of having no NK tonight.

[Y]

Here's a thought:
Only dead scum can kill.
Dead people can use their powers only while in purgatory.
If we kill the spiritualists, all killed players go directly to the afterlife.

If we kill the spiritualists, would scum be able to kill?

[Setael]

We've been told that if the spiritualists are dead then all ties to the afterlife are cut off, so my assumption would be that no, scum will no longer be able to make NKs once both spiritualists are dead. It will essentially become a nightless game with only those who have not been lynched participating. Neutrals would probably win.

[ckillor]

we don't need to worry about accidentally killing the spirituallist, for town at least, because we have the two doctor claimers. which ever one we kill tonight it doesnt matter that much because the cop can investigate death_omen and confirm(or disprove but hopefully not) his scummyness. so all we need to do is choose one doctor to lynch

[Kilroy8675309]

I'm for a D_O lynch. If that cannot happen, by the Town's will, then I'm pretty sure RandomActs is the real Doc.

[Draux]

This discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Max, do you think Spambot's replacement will turn up before the deadline?

[Max]

Now Im sorry but I believe that at the moment the chances are low. But you never know.

[ckillor]

its seems like we are at a stand still. my view is that we should lynch the doc claimer who seems most town.

some prods might be a good idea too.

[Y]

I'm still against killing townies. You won't get my vote for the doc.

[ckillor]

why not though? when it seems the only way forward? it wouldnt be killing townies if we tryed to lynch one of the claimers because we would either:
lynch the doctor-good
lynch the mafia member-goodish because that would only leave one mafia left

with not trying to lynch one of the claimers we risk killing a townie, killing the town spiritualist, killing a neutral, and theres a small chance that we would hit the other mafia member which would be very bad because they would show up as town and we wouldnt know for sure

[Night_Light]

I pretty much agree with ckillor. Whether you agree that we need the doctor dead to try and possibly protect the spiritualist, or that we need to lynch mafia and 50/50 are the best odds we're going to get, voting for one of the docs is obviously the way to go.