Oman[2](Mastermind of Sin, Tarhalindur)
Flameaxe[2](pwayne66, vollkan)
Tarhalindur[2](Oman, tyhess)
Not Voting[3](Trojan Horse, Flameaxe, theopor_COD)
Mastermind of Sin wrote:tyhess, you're reaching. Just because Tarhalindur made a vote that could be argued as OMGUS does not draw any parallels to what I did. I presented a case that said there was *probably* a scum on my wagon,one out of four, notallof them. To say that this equates to "everyone that votes me is scum" is not only a gross misrepresentation, but it's complete bullshit to compare it to Tar's actions.
No, tyhess, it is not a scumtell. I hate the tactic because it usually is not a great help (though I have seen it succeed in the past) but it is not a scumtell. In fact, whenever people pull stupid stunts they have always come up town for me. That doesn't mean I consider it a town-tell (WIFOM obv), but it is not a scumtell.tyhess wrote: Yes, but that's what Tar said he was doing. He said he was hoping someone would attack him, which was a scumtell.
And whats to say this wasn't his idea at all, and just said that because his first plan failed? The first plan of course being sparking up the wagon on me from the end of day 1. Its far fetched, but still definitely possible, seeing Tar's lack of doing anything other than jumping between the current wagon of the day and jumping on his own wagon.tyhess wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:tyhess, you're reaching. Just because Tarhalindur made a vote that could be argued as OMGUS does not draw any parallels to what I did. I presented a case that said there was *probably* a scum on my wagon,one out of four, notallof them. To say that this equates to "everyone that votes me is scum" is not only a gross misrepresentation, but it's complete bullshit to compare it to Tar's actions.
Yes, but that's what Tar said he was doing. He said he was hoping someone would attack him, which was a scumtell.
vollkan wrote:No, tyhess, it is not a scumtell. I hate the tactic because it usually is not a great help (though I have seen it succeed in the past) but it is not a scumtell. In fact, whenever people pull stupid stunts they have always come up town for me. That doesn't mean I consider it a town-tell (WIFOM obv), but it is not a scumtell.tyhess wrote: Yes, but that's what Tar said he was doing. He said he was hoping someone would attack him, which was a scumtell.
*blink* Erm...aren't you voting for Tar? And you did say thisI didn't mean what he did was a scum tell(which is what I think you thought I meant)....I meant that he said that if someone voted for him and overreacted it was a scumtell....
andtyhess wrote:
I don't like this either.Your going into MoS's "if you vote for me you're scum" theory, which I didn't like in the first place.You should have given a reason for your vote-and I doubt Oman was trying to avert the attention from Flameaxe, given that you posted 0(zero) facts against Flameaxe. Adding this to what you did last round (self vote, etc), I'm going to
Vote: Tar
tyhess wrote: I however don't think its reasonable. There were other people already pressuring Flameaxe, so if he was trying to get a reaction from someone other than Flameaxe, he didn't have to vote without a reason. Same thing if he was trying to get a reaction from Flameaxe- there was no reason to vote without a reason since others were already pressuring him.
This is just added to the long list of things I haven't liked about Tar:
1) self vote (twice)
2) saying he used that tactic in another game and he was town in that game so he's obviously town in this one.
3) claiming vanilla without being asked to do so.
4) Using the same strategy as MoS, probably just because MoS talked himself out of being voted for.
My vote stands.
No. There is a contradiction.Trojan Horse wrote: Tell me if my understanding is off, but it looks like tyhess was simply REPEATING Tar's claim about a certain behavior being a scumtell. I don't see where tyhess AGREED that it was a scumtell. So I don't see the contradiction here.
I misread your post that said:tyhess wrote: You misread my quote volkan, or I misread yours. My original quote meant that tar said that if anyone voted/overreacted that it was a scumtell. I repeated what he said as a reason for me voting for him. Then you said that it wasn't a scumtell. I thought you misread my sentence, and I was saying that I wasn't repeating that it was a scumtell but that Tar said people voting/overreacting was a scumtell, not that what he did was scumtell. I haven't seen that strategy enough to term it a scumtell, however; I just don't like it, and that is what I said in the comments you quoted.
I thought in here you were saying that people attacking Tar was a scumtell.tyhess wrote: Yes, but that's what Tar said he was doing. He said he was hoping someone would attack him, which was a scumtell.