Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Ok so I think that Transcend is just super arrogant town, I don't think scum would take the chance of going to a battlepath and calling out people in case they accidentally slipped. I also don't like how Lowell came in 620 and basically hopped on a wagon than said he would answer anything but when questioned had dissapeared. But what I really want is nnn's reasoning right now

[Creature]

You would say the forest surely.

Lowell is no longer V/LA

VC 2.3

Votecount 2.3

[2] Tommy - Zachstralkita, Raskolnikov
[0] Raskolnikov
[0] Lowell
[0] Zachstralkita
[0] nnn_thekushmountains
[0] AlpacaAlpaca
[1] Transcend - Trivium
[1] JarJarDrinks - Bacde
[1] Trivium - inspectorscout
[0] inspectorscout
[0] Bacde

[0] Nolynch

Not voting (6): Tommy, Lowell, nnn_thekushmountains, AlpacaAlpaca, JarJarDrinks, Transcend

With 11 alive, 6 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-06-17 18:30:00)

[inspectorscout]

Well shotty's given up, and in my relatively low experience that means he's mafia. Yeah inspector, I suck at this so you should lynch me. That's how this game works, after all.

What are you going to do about it, lynch me?

Can you stop trying to challenge me?

inspector is trying to lynch me because it's easy to seem like he's town who thinks I'm dumb or whatever.

yes, maybe i do think that.


Ok, I might bave been pushing too hard for that, but it's not the only thing I want to push a lynch for; I mentioned so much stuff that I think that is scum about you.

I guess after analysis of the last day I would say my townreads are a bit more confirmed.

Can you please share your analysis of the last day?

tbf i think the last thing scum would do was pretend not to know who was fucking killed LMFAOOOO thats some bold shit

WIFOM on WIFOM on WIFOM.

I'd like to put forth the question why is not knowing who died considered a slip?

Did I say it was a slip? Because it's not, it's rather LAMIST ''i dunno who got killed so i aint do it m8''

Can anyone explain transcend scumread? i do disagree with some of his reads, but I don't think they are that bad
uhh if Trivium is so obvtown for you guys, who should I be looking at? (this doesnt mean that I no longer scumread him, but looking at my posts, I do agree that I have been tunneling a bit too much)

[Zachstralkita]

I'd like to put forth the question why is not knowing who died considered a slip?

Did I say it was a slip? Because it's not, it's rather LAMIST ''i dunno who got killed so i aint do it m8''

/quote]

That's what I implied from your vote. My mistake then.

[Zachstralkita]

mother of all FUCKS you just wanna fuck with me huh quote tags?

[Bacde]

So my weekend was awesome thanks for asking guys, sorry though I slacked on this game I plan on getting to it today

[Trivium]

Well shotty's given up, and in my relatively low experience that means he's mafia. Yeah inspector, I suck at this so you should lynch me. That's how this game works, after all.

What are you going to do about it, lynch me?

Can you stop trying to challenge me?

Sure if you have a problem with it

inspector is trying to lynch me because it's easy to seem like he's town who thinks I'm dumb or whatever.

yes, maybe i do think that.

Gee thanks. Again, I have to ask somebody playing this game to get a sense of scope

Ok, I might bave been pushing too hard for that, but it's not the only thing I want to push a lynch for; I mentioned so much stuff that I think that is scum about you.

You did. Congratulations.

I guess after analysis of the last day I would say my townreads are a bit more confirmed.

Can you please share your analysis of the last day?

I meant last real life day, but sure, in my next post.

tbf i think the last thing scum would do was pretend not to know who was fucking killed LMFAOOOO thats some bold shit

WIFOM on WIFOM on WIFOM.

It's not that much of a paradox, I'm not a fucking mastermind, though I do appreciate the paranoia coming from you. Do you really believe that I as mafia would do that? If so, whatever.

I'd like to put forth the question why is not knowing who died considered a slip?

Did I say it was a slip? Because it's not, it's rather LAMIST ''i dunno who got killed so i aint do it m8''

Again, I'm just going to have to say I'm not a mastermind. If you don't believe me, K.

Can anyone explain transcend scumread? i do disagree with some of his reads, but I don't think they are that bad
uhh if Trivium is so obvtown for you guys, who should I be looking at? (this doesnt mean that I no longer scumread him, but looking at my posts, I do agree that I have been tunneling a bit too much)

Don't ever let people convince you you can't get someone lynched, that's mafia logic

[Trivium]

Yesterday (earth time) I saw a bunch of my townreads arguing back and forth and being really paranoid about each other, I feel like there was a lot of pressure and suspicion of tommy, who hasn't gotten much of that really this game, from rask and zach, furthering my townreads of them.

[JarJarDrinks]

I dont have one. Like zach, hes been constantly changing town-scum to me. I dont even understand most of his posts. But, as i said before, i have a gut feeling hes gonna be a mislynch + he said hes gonna post a readlist d2, and since i have other people that i want lynched, its best to keep him alive until then, and by using his readlist you will pretry much see if hes scum or not.

There are 3 scum ppl, even if he is scum, rushing a kill on him isnt needed at all

. Especially for me, since i have other suspects

That line is pretty fucking awful for reasons I don't need to explain. It tickles me the wrong way. I'd be comfortable with a scout lynch today. I am aware this was said pre-flip. It does not change the context at all. I was going to say he was null today but that line fucks me up.

Not just the bolded. The whole post is so bad when you look @ it when it took place.

He makes that post after shotty selfvotes to L-1 and 2 players post intent to hammer (technically it was after hammer but it was a minute off). What's the point of making that post when the lynch is all but inevitable? This is a post from someone that knows how shotty is about to flip.

Not to mention shotty was one of the few people scout actually gave us a read on and he supposedly thought he was scummy. Yet he didn't say jack shit about the wagon on him while it was forming. Only after the outcome was certain did he speak up.

[JarJarDrinks]

What do you think about my posts that matter, scout? Yeah, of course jarjar. I'm so patient. Dunn knows just how patient I am.

So, can anyone guess what he meant with this question? I read it as 'you called my potssts useless, so what do you think about the posts that matter?' I replied to that, then he says I'm dodging like hell and he was 'so gonna fuckin kill' me.

He tried to frame me into 'being drmy' scumpartner, if he flipped scum he would be sure of the next kill.

He was wrong

VOTE: Transcend
Inspector is probably town given that my thing with drshotty was wrong.

...and directly votes for the guy that thakes the most pro-town actions. Easy, after NK'ing dunn, no? - but not after voting for an ongoing wagon. Please.
VOTE: trivium

How does that statement make any sense if he believes triv is scum?

How could that possibly be triv trying to frame scout if Triv knows for a fact that drmy ISN'T gonna flip scum?

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: inspectorscout

[Tommy]

You don't scumread any of the actives then?

I'll have something to say about Transcend, but that's bound up in the hammer, so it'll have to wait too. Shouldn't be too much longer - I think we're getting near prod time for the players who haven't appeared. I find it hard to believe Scout is for real about Trivium, but I think it's most likely just because he's tunnelling.

Ugh and why does it feel like you're appeasing me here.

Confirmation bias!

I admitted to blind voting you as sheeping earlier and scumread you now from mostly gut and you don't have any problem with that?

If I'd known at the time that you'd voted without posting a reason, I would have pushed you for one. But I think it's often justified to say, 'I don't have a steer right now, so I'm sheeping this player I respect'. Town should act like a town, not a rabble of individualists.

Nothing you want to point out about it, nothing you want to ask? Like just assuming I'm wrong/misunderstood as opposed to malicious probably shouldn't happen if you're town unless you're really confident with your read on me.

Right now I'm getting fairly pro-town vibes off you.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: inspectorscout

[Trivium]

VOTE: inspectorscout

[Trivium]

Jarjar reads null town to me, especially since pretty much all of my scumreads seem susp of him. I already could of gone for a inspector lynch today, now there's a wagon forming so here I go.

[Transcend]

I'm legitimately tempted to sub out if you all lynch my confident tr.

Prodge.

[Transcend]

Will respond to shit when i get home

[Creature]

Prodding nnn_thekushmountains

[Zachstralkita]

kush's " reasoning " isn't really a core part of anything today he did say he forgot

[Trivium]

Seriously transcend? You're tempted to sub out just because we lynched somebody you didn't want us to? Sorry to break it to you, but that's going to happen in quite a few of your games, my friend. Anyway, zach is right, kush said he forgot. I don't think I'm going to let him off for that, and I will be watching very closely, but yeah his lack of posting kind of forces us not to be able to lynch him.

[nnn_thekushmountains]

I think i knew he was at L1 but i forgot to get a claim.

[nnn_thekushmountains]

honestly i had no idea if he was scum or not. he said something that i thought was kinda scummy. I didn't actually filter him though. Mostly I was just kinda bored.

[Tommy]

Kush, when you hammered, had you read this exchange?

Intent to hammer if jarjar doesn't for some reason, or if someone backs off.

wait for him to post before u do anything.

Yeah, of course jarjar. I'm so patient. Dunn knows just how patient I am.

[Transcend]

VOTE: Transcend
Inspector is probably town given that my thing with drshotty was wrong.

Why wouldn't you lynch inspector? What has inspector done that is so townie to you that you wouldn't lynch him?

Smooth transition. Please die.
VOTE: Trivium

Very good observation, but I don't agree with it. inspector has had a keen eye on this game the whole time and I have no idea why his slots being lynched.

Also that colored reads list is pretty close to a scum claim from Transcend

Eh

I think transcend is mafia and inspector is trying to lynch me because it's easy to seem like he's town who thinks I'm dumb or whatever. And for everybody's information, I actually didn't notice who died. What are you going to do about it, lynch me? I think for trying to lynch me for something like that, inspector scout goes way down into my scumreads.

Think of an alternate name for a sandwich
Think of the opposite of in

Follow suit.

Also that colored reads list is pretty close to a scum claim from Transcend

Why?

According to my calculations there's a 70% chance that he just used colors to make himself try and look town


there is a small 30% chance that the colors are completely irrelevant

It's 30%. The colors are NAI. I've done colored reads in other games to designate tiers.

Was gonna leave catchup for tomorrow but not much happened I think.

Transcend unvoting scumread for day off would normally be weird but he's obvtowned this game and there was that quickhammer

Inspectorscout misrepping trivium there; townreading someone and questioning someone else townreading them is NOT contradictory or scummy unless done in a scummy manner. I think scout uses this as lazy vote justification but what feels weird is that it sounds confident and not like the scout who was giving newbtown vibes earlier. Attacking the townslip feels like exaggeration; I would say hey this is probably not a townslip, I wouldn't go the other way and say it's 100% faked impossible to be a townslip. Looking back scout hates trivium though so this might be tunnelling or confbiasing from him, admittedly not paid scout much attention this game. Townread triv tho so don't want this push succeeding.

Still hate all the lamist reasoning I'm seeing everywhere.

Tommy revisit
Tommy's super reserved and argues well enough that he'd have to be half decent scum to pull this play off, in answering the questions given to him he's okay. 773 assigning reasoning to my naked vote is humorous, it also potentially shows hes not paying attention to me (iow trying to read me) but mainly it was funny reading. What I really don't like is that he plays like a wuss and hasn't voted since d1, most of his energy is used defensively but I don't feel like he's trying too hard to read the people he's talking to either. His logic is fine and I can't point out specific scummy posts but I don't see town-impetus/drive or anything to townread. Finds kush at fault (not an unreasonable thing to wagon someone for!); doesn't push or vote there, waiting for kush to get back but cmon do something! Most people would complain at kush not coming, be annoyed at their lack of productivity in this situation, probably push a secondary scumread in the meanwhile or just do something other than answer questions and appear completely unfazed.
Funnily enough when I initially voted tommy today I didn't feel any scumreads strongly in the game and was just sheeping transcend onto a null but I think he's scum now.

Zachs similar in playing like a wuss and hes focusing on scout way more than tommy right now, but not even pressuring/pushing there in-as-much-as casting(throwing?) shade like he did to dunn earlier, reads cowardly. I feel like zach/tommy is distancing/bussing because neither seem to really give a fuck in their exchange and their priority feeling directed elsewhere. The "personality" out for zach's scum stuff makes feeling 100% on this read annoying though and I want to push other scummy just to avoid dealing with this headache.

Probably have to revisit a lot of day 1 reads too tomorrow though most of them seem afk anyways. I'm really tired and this was more tonal intuitive than usual but transcend I want you to respond to this stuff since I kind-of maybe sort-of half respect you at this point. Damn this way took too long.

I'm glad you respect my thoughts this game. I will respect your reads as well. I've read over what you've had to say, and I agree with it for the most part. I unvoted Tommy because I think I misinterpreted his posts about kush. I kinda wanna vote Lowell/JarJar but one slot is AFK and the other slot has so much resistance. The Zach/Tommy read I don't agree with. I think their interactions are not indicative of a team, therefore one or none is scum. Would say Tommy>Zach rn. I also like inspector's confidence. It reads very genuine even if I don't agree with his reads.

Ok so I think that Transcend is just super arrogant town, I don't think scum would take the chance of going to a battlepath and calling out people in case they accidentally slipped. I also don't like how Lowell came in 620 and basically hopped on a wagon than said he would answer anything but when questioned had dissapeared. But what I really want is nnn's reasoning right now

I'd be super down to vote Lowell with you if he weren't V/LA.

So my weekend was awesome thanks for asking guys, sorry though I slacked on this game I plan on getting to it today

I look forward to what you have to say

What do you think about my posts that matter, scout? Yeah, of course jarjar. I'm so patient. Dunn knows just how patient I am.

So, can anyone guess what he meant with this question? I read it as 'you called my potssts useless, so what do you think about the posts that matter?' I replied to that, then he says I'm dodging like hell and he was 'so gonna fuckin kill' me.

He tried to frame me into 'being drmy' scumpartner, if he flipped scum he would be sure of the next kill.

He was wrong

VOTE: Transcend
Inspector is probably town given that my thing with drshotty was wrong.

...and directly votes for the guy that thakes the most pro-town actions. Easy, after NK'ing dunn, no? - but not after voting for an ongoing wagon. Please.
VOTE: trivium

How does that statement make any sense if he believes triv is scum?

How could that possibly be triv trying to frame scout if Triv knows for a fact that drmy ISN'T gonna flip scum?

Man......

VOTE: inspectorscout

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

Dgaf about the resistance

You don't scumread any of the actives then?

I'll have something to say about Transcend, but that's bound up in the hammer, so it'll have to wait too. Shouldn't be too much longer - I think we're getting near prod time for the players who haven't appeared. I find it hard to believe Scout is for real about Trivium, but I think it's most likely just because he's tunnelling.

I'm here bud what do you wanna say about me.

And it's very evident that Scout is real about Triviium. He genuinely thinks that he contradicted himself.

[Lowell]

I'm back. Give me some time to get my bearings.