New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[SethYazura]

VOTE: Cooper
RVS is fair and just, because we will laugh hard if you flip scum.

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If I am scum that would be a serious problem, accidentaly lynching your own teammates or the sk, effectively reducing the kills per night in a large game will lead to your demise

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UNVOTE: Copper223
Don't take it seriously Copper, I'm not like those idiots that chase at you with ropes for hanging just because you're Copper.
This is getting too stupid, why can't we just get along, the adventure haven't started yet and we are already quarreling and sending death threats just because, all that preparations for nothing.

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VOTE: SirCakez
An adventure is all games and fun until the party leader stops it mid-way, hands us a rope, and literally asks us to hang each other.

I can't make my play based on what I honestly think, especially in a large game, you can say that "A" must be hanged because of "B" but the majority factor that influences the Day 1 lynching is luck, scumreads may not work all the time as everyone has different playstyles and personalities which makes it impossible to be always right with a scumread, the only thing we can do right now is to maximize that chances of flipping scum, I'm not confident yet in my reads to do that, it's all up to you my fellow town on this day and I will post my thoughts sometimes.

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For real though, explain 174, because I actually can't parse that into anything I understand.

Copper said I will laugh hard as scum if I flip scum in my lynch, which is a contradiction, since lynching sk as a mafia goon early in this game is serious trouble as there will be less kills per night, giving the Town more time to correctly lynch the mafia.

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@Seth
If you are hard claiming SK we can use you as a vig and give you brownie points when we win, how about it?

Unfortunately I am not hard claiming SK.

I have read nothing and everything at the same time. Ircher seems most scum atm so I'll go with him for now

VOTE: Ircher

Can you please elaborate on this? You have only made 2 posts so far and you are sheeping, why can't you tell us a good reason that Ircher seems most scum?
VOTE: cytheflyguy
I will retract my vote if you give me a sufficient explaination

Scum reads:
Seth

Why do you think I am scum? What are your problems with me so far?

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It's not wrong to assume there is an sk in a large game, saying there is an sk in a large game does not make me scum. If there isn't one then this game is heavily in favor of us.

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UNVOTE: cytheflyguy
We should drop the cytheflyguy's wagon, he's a bad lynch, he's obviously new to the game and doesn't know that what's he saying will certainly lead to him being perceived as scummy.
I like how the ppl are still on my old posts, my first posts are roleplay, afterwards I made a post that is fucked up by my phone's autocorrect, I then made another post that explains that gramatically incorrect post, but that message wasn't clear, making it ambiguous and the players are now making different interpretations of it, this is partly my fault and I acknowledge this.

which is a contradiction, since lynching sk as a mafia goon

I said lynching sk as a mafia goon, not me lynching sk as a mafia goon, I did not mention who is the mafia goon, therefore it couldn't be anyone in this game.

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At players who thought I am an sk and said the town could use me as a vig, that gave me an idea of a role that functions like an sk, but can win with any faction as long as it survives.

This game has 21 players and thus it's completely possible that there is a second mafia or an sk in the game. Otherwise the game would be excruciatingly slow and would last two years. If the latter happens then the mod is either a nasty bastard or he completely sucks at creating a setup.

We should drop the cytheflyguy's wagon, he's a bad lynch, he's obviously new to the game and doesn't know that what's he saying will certainly lead to him being perceived as scummy.

Why are you ruling out that he is new

and

scum?

I said he's being perceived as scummy, not scum.
Look at his join date and his posts and you will get the conclusion that he's unfamiliar with forum mafia yet, therefore new.

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What alignment do you think he is?

Who are you talking to? If I am the one you are asking, cy is town.

He didn't give an explanation, did he?

Read post 183

You could be meaning this, which I don't understand at all

post 646

I also am suspicious of the part where he says (paraphrasing): I am not like the rest that want to lynch you just because you are copper; that sentence implies he knows my alignment and is factoring it in his view of the game-state.

Good point, I see this.

roleplaying in early D1

Vote: SethYazura

I might do a full reads list later if I feel motivated.

All that analysis, then quickly slaps a random vote on me without an explaination. Elaborate please.

"casts a spell of motivation on projectmatt"

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@Seth
so what is it that gives him away as a newbie of the townie variety to you?

You can easily single out newbies from an experienced and everyone can do it.
An experienced knows the concequences of posting in the same way as cytheflyguy, cy posted like that because he doesn't.

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@Seth
so what is it that gives him away as a newbie of the townie variety to you?

You can easily single out newbies from an experienced and everyone can do it.
An experienced knows the concequences of posting in the same way as cytheflyguy, cy posted like that because he doesn't.

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If anyone wants to jump on a wagon, cytheflyguy is a worser choice compared to the other wagons currently at the moment, due to cy having higher probabilities of flipping town.
If you want to parrot, Egg and EspeciallyTheLies are the best ones.

@Seth
I am not asking you why you can call him a newbie, I am asking you why you are calling him a

town

newbie?

I am trying not to confbias here but this reads like you knowing his alignment and justifying your read by proving a tangential point which is irrelevant for the read itself (this would likely imply we are not in a multiball), why are you even focusing so much on the newbie part, the important read is whether he is town or scum.

Self-Explanatory Shit
A newbtown's first posts almost always attract suspicion, a newbscum on the other hand, either tries to act like town as much as possible but fails to do so or he is inactive.

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Nah it's just that most newbscums I've met are just like that, may not apply on everybody as it's based on my experience :\.

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lost in the damn woods

mod of the year

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Underrated mod, deserves commendation.

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TBH tries to misdirect and change the wagon to heuristically_alone just right after Titus said we should gang him up.
Say no more Titus, VOTE: TehBrawlGuy.

@Seth – are you an Alt? Your statements about “new players” when your join date is this month strike me as not new-player based.

Had games of real life party mafia and 200+ games on sc2mafia before I decided to try out forum mafia.

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@Seth, what is your handle on sc2?

SilverWrath

2. 646 - Derails and defends Cythefly -

I don't like this defense, simply cuz Cythefly is just prod-dodging and/or throwing random, naked accusations at players for whatever is convenient at the time. Apathy? I would think they would help more. Newbie Town? Wouldn't be throwing naked accusations around the entire time. Apathetic Newbie Town? Possibly, but I doubt it. The defense, by association, makes you look sorta bad. -

-1 Point

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Sure, I won't mind if you tell me that Cy has the possibility of being scum, but Cy is a worser lynch target compared to other wagons, the reason to lynch him currently at the moment is quite lacking, we will get back to him later after we deal with more pressing matters.

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ok i made it to page 33 and now im lazy

VOTE: Ircher

At least give an explanation why you voted Ircher.
Elaborate on your read list, you just categorized players into alignments without an actual analysis, even one-liners are enough.

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Expedience's response is underrated, I didn't see a slight reaction to it and thus I didn't notice until Zakk quoted that, gave me quite a good laugh.

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At least give an explanation why you voted Ircher.
Elaborate on your read list, you just categorized players into alignments without an actual analysis, even one-liners are enough.

That's pretty demanding of you considering your answer when asked about your reads was that you don't have any as it is pointless to scumhunt D1 and the lynch is a lottery.

Never did I tell you that it's pointless to scumhunt d1, if you can make a read list, you should be able to say why, otherwise players will eventually prompt you to explain your reads which is what I just did.

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Expedience's response is underrated, I didn't see a slight reaction to it and thus I didn't notice until Zakk quoted that, gave me quite a good laugh.

You know that your last few posts sound like scum struggling to participate, right?

You know that you don't have a sense of humor right?

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So basically, you are now claiming you want an ETL wagon, but she's hard to lynch so you'd rather vote elsewhere? So you're shopping an ETL wagon?

YES! this is exactly it. are you down?

It took pages of conversation for you just to say this? You could have made it easier by a ton.

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]Seth, you were quick to vote Cythefly when it was the cool thing to do. Some people unvote and you follow suit, even copying their reasoning that he's new. Do you have some kind of reason to believe he's town or are all new players a "bad lynch"?

The reason I unvoted is because he's new, I told everyone he's a bad lynch because he's new, I don't remember parroting other players with that post.
All new players are a bad lynch because their play did not yet adjust to the meta, their playstyles are one of a kind and unorthodox and thus your reads on them are more likely to be wrong than reading an experienced player.

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Policy Lynch By Day 2 : Aneninen

Pigeon birdshit is intolerable distraction.
There won't be anything wrong anymore if there are no pigeons in a mafia game.

And from now on I'm not posting such detailed catch-up walls. It's taken almost three hours and I doubt I'll have that much time in the near future because of IRL things. Sorry.

Because dropping pigeon shits right on our faces is detailed catch-up walls, someone already told you that all of this pigeon shit are all one-liners with little or no beneficial analysis and questions that go to nowhere, worst of all they are so long they fill up to 3 screens of monitor, if you continue to shit on our faces after being told twice I will put the pigeon shit you shat us on where it's supposed to belong

and forcibly shove it up your ass and make you vomit literal liquid shit from the trauma and repeat the process over and over again while you being locked in a birdcage until you die as a reference that you apparently like roleplaying pigeons, I am your best friend when it comes to ensuring that you take your lesson really well. Mod please stay out of this it's a talking pigeon and finds it funny to shit on this thread and on us.

It takes you three hours to shit and that's the only thing that's not annoying.

Ircher's readlist. 1065.

All new players are a bad lynch because their play did not yet adjust to the meta, their playstyles are one of a kind and unorthodox and thus your reads on them are more likely to be wrong than reading an experienced player.

Or there's another explanation. Seth is scum and a newer player is his buddy.
Frankly, why is anyone townreading him?

This needs to be ignored, this pigeon judges me as "pigeon poop"(so ironic) and everything you say is shat upon by this pidgeon if he judges you as poop, making a big deal about everything you say.

Brawl is scummy because of that Multiball question.

Don't pigeon shit upon small things and make them big problems for town, even if we are talking about Brawl who I want lynched this day.

Nahdia is scummy because she refused to give real explanations but she got involved in fluffing easily.

This words came out from a pidgeon who posted the childish "malkavian roleplay" fluffy post.

I don't know what to think of the whole Zakk–Titus interaction. But I hope there will be one because I'm waiting for "something" that may or may not happen later.

And now you're hiding things from us, 'something that may happen or not later" which is just another distraction for town, and what the fuck do you mean by hoping there will be one if there is already one? Another pidgeon shit you shat on this thread?
You die Day 2.