Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[Gorkington]

The fact that scum is ring leading a wagon on me is disgusting.

quite frankly i dont believe your confidence here.
:/

p-edit: i dont think youre stealing ranger's reads.
your latter point is incorrect though!

[Gorkington]

his iece ISOdive felt pretty town to me. @fire.

[Gorkington]

RC.
lets play a game that i think you'd like.
if you were a 1-shot dayvig.
who would you shoot in the face right at this exact second and why?
i understand youre voting andro.
if its them please articulate why even if its just gut.

[Gorkington]

can i get a definitive answer to my question or nah?

[Gorkington]

i need to know so i can warp my twisted agenda accordingly.

[Gorkington]

not very much atm.
im trying to condense.

an iece wagon is scary because i would be scared of losing townIece, but i also feel like ive been making that excuse in my head all game for iece since mid-D1 which is gahhhhhh.

how are you enjoying being an alt btw? is it as liberating as youd hoped?

p-edit: neat.
im still town.

[Gorkington]

i get that im scary because im good at the game.
i just want to drive when i get confident about something.
thats all i ask.

[Gorkington]

man.
i feel strangely comforted by the idea of an androgy lynch.
like.
im struggling to imagine posts like the above coming from townNahdia.

[Gorkington]

god dammit beeboy.

[Gorkington]

actually no androgy is probably still scum.
im actually relatively confident in my ability to read beeboy and nothing about this tone is ringing honest to me.

[Gorkington]

so close to pagetop.

[Gorkington]

you win this time ether.

this time

~

[Gorkington]

i dont make stuff up.

[Gorkington]

im sad at the implications of you being scum.
:/

god damn.
i messed up today.

the good news is that titus/androgy scumteam is probably not a thing.

[Gorkington]

3 days.

[Gorkington]

i mean i can also really easily buy iece/androgy scummates right now.

[Gorkington]

sorry beeboy.

i do feel bad that im frustrating when i have a scumread i feel confident about.
i dont think im wrong though.
:/

[Gorkington]

im willing to give 24 hours for someone to pitch some kind of wildABtowncase.
if that doesnt happen or if it happens and it sucks then i want a claim.

[Gorkington]

rc i dont see androgy worming out of this.
and this is just getting noisy now.
i like what youre doing, but should probably let game breathe a bit, ya?

[Gorkington]

If I was in my own slot I'd probably be self voting right now because Gork and RC are working so hard to lose this game.

pffffffffffffft.

[Gorkington]

i feel bad for not being on the same level of confidence that other people are for titus being town.
:/

i'll get there if andro probably flips scum.
but in the meantime gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Gorkington]

right.
you should give more comprehensive reads.
like your read on iece.
because thats actually interesting to me if you flip scum or town and doesnt just read like mindless posturing.

[Gorkington]

Today I learned a valuable lesson.
If you don't want to catch up to play a game because you know it is going to be shit, don't catch up.

Lesson learned thanks everyone!

i just fed you a bone.
if you dont take it im going to assume youre scum and ignore you.

[Gorkington]

also you just said youre not confident in the titus scumread.
why the bravado?

[Gorkington]

If she was right about something doesn't it make perfect sense for me to look at her top 2 scum reads?

have you looked at iece then?
why pretend to be so confident in your titus scumread if youre about to die?
what good does faking that do?

claim results too please.

[Gorkington]

i feel really skeeved by you claiming that.
im not sure if thats just me being arrogant though.

[Gorkington]

ok?

not you.

ninjas ruin all of the context.

[Gorkington]

rc figured out the context in like a second.
if you and nahdia both didnt and youre town im going to gjhfkfdhgkjhfdgkjhfkgjhdfkfdkjghkjdfghkjdfghkjfdhgoiergopiemg.

[Gorkington]

nvm youre just scum.
ranger mentions in ISO contradict the track there super hard.

lets get some check-ins for reactions.
you should give a final readslist with a sentence for each read.
and then you dead.

[Gorkington]

maybe both.
im probably gonna hiss at anyone who tries to dismantle this wagon who isnt you though.

[Gorkington]

you better not be doing that thing where you fake a scumread on me.
-.-

[Gorkington]

Your reactions to this wagon have been weird and I'm wondering if the 'not what you think' bit was staged.

i really dont think this would be my MO as scum but by all means be suspicious of mastermind gork.
i feel more town than i have at any other point in this game atm.

[Gorkington]

ew.
my buzz.
its going away.

scum please kill me or rc tonight.

[Gorkington]

even though i know im not dying now.
im gonna be really pissed if andro is town.

[Gorkington]

obvscum.
while saying not confident.
ugh.

i really want maru and iece and fire and ari to fully react to all of this.
but fucking hell i really want this flip.

[Gorkington]

i will try to be patient rc.
i really will.

but im really town right now and it sucks that youre not seeing it :/

[Gorkington]

okay.

why would you target someone
you called town more than once on d1.

[Gorkington]

Nadhia to me last night -> Do we track Ranger or Ice.
Me -> Out of fear let's track Ranger (I told nahdia I didn't read the game)

Ranger visited no one btw

questionable.

[Gorkington]

i really dont think this is an apathy lynch at all.

its questionable that both of you are pushing onus of the ranger track on each other.

[Gorkington]

less buzz more bored now.
gonna wait for check-ins.

[Gorkington]

confbias is boring.
if youre town or scum youre not convincing anyone of anything with it.

[Gorkington]

i watched you from afar in team mafia.
was a fan.
also i am, in fact, an alt.
of cheetory6.

[Gorkington]

its also fun imagining rc playing with the idea of this being a plan.

[Gorkington]

im more saying that in general, rc and andro's confbias is boring here.
even thinking that andro's is fake.
its still boring.

p-edit: fair, i do respect your play as a whole though and if youre town i would be excited to condense with you.

[Gorkington]

you keep saying confbias confbias confbias but not actually pointing anything out. I've made it clear I'm actively trying to sort RC and asked him questions which he legit refused to answer since he's "gonna explain it post-game "

WHEN I FLIP TOWN READ THESE POSTS BECAUSE TITUS AND RC ARE SCUM THANKS

yah youre right.
i cant see anything.
:s
sorry for misrepping.

[Gorkington]

im gonna go to bed.
dont lynch people while im asleep.

[Gorkington]

andro isnt lying about the music vendor.
so i mean.

[Gorkington]

i hope youre not talking about me.
because youre not lynching me.
:/

[Gorkington]

yay!
i like being worried about later!

[Gorkington]

titusssssss.
i really need you to be more town.
talk to me about your androgy read please.
three really simplified points at most would be ideal.
about why you think shes scum.

[Gorkington]

why you think theyre scum**

[Gorkington]

You KNOW I am fucking town

i really dont.

[Gorkington]

okay so i did a bit of meta-diving on aristophanes because i saw that buzzfeed mafia had ended and him being considered by gamma to be scumMVP had me curious.

was impressed by how he played there.

but i think there are subtle differences between his play there and here that makes me feel relatively comfortable with him being in my townpile still.
i think if he was scum, he would have been more comfortable giving me fake-reads instead of sitting on it for a while/reading first when i was bugging him about it. he didnt seem afraid to produce reads with a little reasoning behind them in buzzfeed so thats where im coming from on that.
its possible that me putting pressure on him might have produced artificial activity/increased effort in some fakereads if he were scum here, but im not leaning that way.

i also think him making an extensive case on iece and not just posturing on it is townish based on what i saw in buzzfeed. i dont think i really saw anything comparable there.
i might increase my sample size later just because most of my reads are kind of shriveling up due to apathy on my end and from other people.

certainly i feel very uncomfortable with the strength on both sides of the andro/RC arguments.
im really starting to get scared that RC shouldnt be in my townbin. and if it turns out andro is town, then RC's earlygame vacation is over.

i feel comfortable saying that beeboy reads as scum, but nahdia reads closer to nulltown.
basically hydras suck and im really starting to understand why people dislike them.
i want to metadive nahdia again. i tried to dive her once earlygame and didnt get much out of it. now that shes had this big reaction to being pushed, i really want to see if shes done something like this as scum before or if this is more of a common thing for her towngame.

other people that i want to metadive are probably iece, maru and maybe even not_mafia.

really gonna try to drop some solid effort into this game today/tomorrow.

[Gorkington]

oh and ircher is a person.
i would be interested to look at his meta too.

onto more ari games in the meantime.

[Gorkington]

youve played mafia elsewhere right?
any chance you could point me in direction of where?
or are you trying to leave those days behind and dont want people looking at that?

also, diving Ari confirms to some degree in my head that he feels a little more tentative as town than as scum and puts the legwork in before attaching meaning to reads.
im probably ruining my ability to read him in future games to some degree, but i feel relatively confident that hes town here.

[Gorkington]

i mean im scared that i feel like i was being snowed by someone.
and RC is definitely one of those players who i consider able to do so.

and the longer this andro wagon gets drawn out and his confidence stays at the same unwavering level, the more it feels like it could be artificial/him being afraid of pivoting rather than a genuine thing.

and im totally aware that me being open about this is probably going to cause frothing on both my end and RC's end, but im not gonna bottle up my reads out of fear of getting a headache.
so.
oh well.

[Gorkington]

If RC ever fakeclaims a guilty, we should lynch tyat person immediately. If its a town flip, we lynch RC next.

you have very strange thoughts ircher.

[Gorkington]

two fun points.
i) is rc infallible as town?
ii) if you genuinely believe the above, why say it out loud?

[Gorkington]

ii) now, lets say RC is scum.
he now has the tools to either not fakeclaim if he doesnt want the heat.
or.
he has the tools to pivot around you and say "why would i have fakeguiltied as scum when you said that?"

i dont understand.
:/

[Gorkington]

i knowwwwwwww.
i just feel like it makes no sense regardless of what ircher's alignment is.
i really need meta for him.
if he has a standardized scumgame and its different from here then i can just turn off my brain at the weirdness.

[Gorkington]

im probably going to vote iece if metadive there indicates scum.
momentum of the game suggests that he is.

p-edit: will check it out.
im gonna get paint and coffee first though.

[Gorkington]

oh wtf fire assassin.
god dammit.
im really scared of half of this playerlist all of a sudden.
q.q

[Gorkington]

ircher have you played offsite?

[Gorkington]

iece.
if i meta dive you.
do you think i'll think youre town?

[Gorkington]

1. Its the wagon RC started that didn't claim
3. Bullshit tracker claim
3. Terrible omgus
4. Opportunistic voting
5. AtE lies regarding tracker claim

can you explain point 1 better and go into more detail on why you think the tracker claim is bullshit?
i'd also like a little more detail on why you feel as though the omgus is more likely to come from scum rather than town.

[Gorkington]

okay.
can you talk a little bit more about your andro read?
or point me at a post in the game that you agree with regarding them?
or tell me that your ISO explains it better at some point?

[Gorkington]

if theyre town we lose a tracker??
i dont understand.

[Gorkington]

Scum - Andro (AtE, Claim hijinks, etc)

ughhh ircherrrrrrr.
why is it so hard to follow where your reads are coming from q.q

[Gorkington]

distressing that i feel uncomfortable with andro still.

[Gorkington]

andro/titus probably arent scum together. sure.

ari has been contributing enough.
rosh is also contributing a decent amount lately.

infolynching at this stage over hunting for scum is really strange ircher.
:/

[Gorkington]

like, youre calling andro scum, but also simultaneously justifying their lynch because of info.
like.
i dont care about info.
info comes from any lynch.
moreso, info comes from pushing lynches.
an iece push with any significant backbone will give information.
there are people resistant to the wagon.
slow to jump on.
people ignoring it.

plenty of information.
super questionable that youre ignoring it just because of an apparent lack of information, especially since ari posted a case.

[Gorkington]

why is iece not a good infolynch.
i dont get it.

[Gorkington]

and ive just talked about why thats stupid.

[Gorkington]

titus hasnt really interacted all that much either.
should we lynch me because ive interacted with a lot of people?

[Gorkington]

at least look at ari's case on iece instead of just saying "theres nothing there" because thats annoying.

[Gorkington]

zzzzz.
i dont like that somehow scum is inevitably buddying me at this point.

[Gorkington]

i feel like this game is devolving into semantics and thats boring af.

[Gorkington]

i feel like its equally likely that ircher has just been punished with scumreads in previous games for calling lurkers scummy and is compensating for that now.
hes doing it very mechanically.
but that doesnt make me confident at all that hes scum.

[Gorkington]

so mechanical golly gee willicker.
:S

[Gorkington]

lets lynch notmafia.

[Gorkington]

im trying to do things :c

[Gorkington]

yoh nm.
do you intentionally make yourself harder to read?

[Gorkington]

why not explain your reads then?

[Gorkington]

just feels weird to me to play in a way that so passively influences the gamestate.

[Gorkington]

isnt it frustrating not being able to generally be able to drive the gamestate though?
if everyone is being dumb/wrong and you cant articulate your reads, doesnt that prevent you from getting shit done/wouldnt that be annoying?

[Gorkington]

i just mean in general.
that would frustrate me.
was more just curious.

[Gorkington]

nah i think not mafia is town still.

[Gorkington]

AB is still scum.

if i vote AB this cycle.
and they flip town.
im i) not listening to you anytime you say anything with this bravado again this game.
ii) im going to be intensely concerned about you being scum and you will probably be lynched before we get to endgame.

do you accept both of these terms?
or do you want to actually try to lay out a case on andro?

[Gorkington]

AB is still scum. Iecerint may be scum but the voting patterns suggest otherwise.

also, literally the only scummy person on said wagon is andro.

[Gorkington]

i actually had a similar feeling about roshar/andro being a possible thing.
distressing.
q.q

[Gorkington]

i would probably be hard-defending andro if i was scum with them.
but sure.
lets pretend i would waffle like a dufus on a scummate because man im bad and i like attention on myself.

[Gorkington]

im getting grumpy.
lets try this game again tomorrow.

p-edit: youre not the only person in this game.
regardless of whether im stopping the andro lynch, im certainly not being clear about my stance on them and being sketchy af about it.
if they were to ever flip scum, it would look awful on me.

i play survivalistic as scum.

i want to survive to the end.

and i want to bring my scummates with me, but if i cant, i want to seem too overblown in my defense to be a scummate.

thats my MO.

this game im trying to figure shit out. a tracker claim is scary and i dont have much meta to look up of nahdia as scum under hard-pressure.
im also wary of you. for various reasons. including the non-stop shade youve been slinging at me since D1.
if you were scum, i would expect you to be driving the game the way you want to drive the game. and you upping the rhetoric once andro claimed tracker set off all kinds of alarms in my head.
is andro possibly scum?
sure.
am i comfortable enough with what youre doing right now to pursue that?
not really.

[Gorkington]

and yes, i realize that all of this is moot because im pretty self-aware.
whatevs.
im not getting mislynched this game.

[Gorkington]

im scumRC.

[Gorkington]

like seriously, be bad at reading me all you want.
youre not lynching me.

[Gorkington]

im wary of you.
theres a difference.

but by all means, keep gotcha-ing me.

[Gorkington]

omg ur vla and youre posting?
scum.
amirite?
is this how we play the game?

[Gorkington]

what case?
you just shouted that she was scum on rhetoric over and over and over.
yes.
their tone was awkward.
yes.
their claim was wonky.

if you cant get that i can see you pushing that as scum, then youre either clueless or scum.

[Gorkington]

GOT EM BOIS.

[Gorkington]

i hate playing this game.
rhetoric is easily my least fucking favourite thing.
youre a great player.
but you really frustrate me to no fucking end with the way you go about pushes.
and you could be scum doing this.
which really just makes it better.
that im getting worked up at both the ideas of you being scum and you being town and doing this.

[Gorkington]

i really need to stop playing this game.

[Gorkington]

vote: androgy

[Gorkington]

and theyv such cumfucs

i really feel like you just dont understand how i would play as scum.

[Gorkington]

zzzzz
willing to wait for a maruchan replacement and other people to catch up.
probably just going to shut up in the meantime because im feeling particularly prickly atm.

[Gorkington]

:/
my comfort level for ircher is going down.
and my comfort level is naively going up for titus.
zzzzz.

[Gorkington]

ircher.
if youre town.
theres literally no reason to rush a hammer.

we're going to be sitting in night cycle waiting for a maru replacement.
an iece claim could change gamestate, and no him not having claimed yet is not a scumclaim.
i dont understand why people act like things that arent scumclaims are scumclaims.
-.-

[Gorkington]

@Gork, you've said before that you can read beeboy confidently. What's the difference between scum beeboy and town beeboy?

its mainly a tone thing.
scumbeeboy just doesnt feel like a real person trying to figure things out in a game.
my confidence in that got a little shaken with all of the noise in this game.

[Gorkington]

Gork, site meta has changed.

not sure i understand?
maybe a postgame talk?

[Gorkington]

Does this begin prior to him being scum read/pressured?

was confident before the RC/andro shouting match.
got less confident as that was happening because i thought RC might be scum.
now im just kind of a blob on the ground trying to pretend to know whats going on.

[Gorkington]

stop being meme please.
this game is bloated enough without shitposting.

[Gorkington]

claiiiiiiiiiim?

[Gorkington]

But I'm 97% sure RC is town.....

im talking about this:

1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a I should stop

stop doing this.

[Gorkington]

well, this is probably hopefully a scumlynch.
thats good at least.

[Gorkington]

davsto. -.-

[Gorkington]

zzzzzz.

[Gorkington]

bold blue is almost certainly town PR.

[Gorkington]

I think...you kinda proved you're town. If Ircher is town, I don't think scum would reach this conclusion.

:/

[Gorkington]

[shocker]

[Gorkington]

its pretty shallow.

[Gorkington]

Do you think scum would consider that Ircher is scum and build an entire conclusion based on it?

lol.

[Gorkington]

he was kind of dodgy, especially with him ignoring everyone telling him to claim.

[Gorkington]

except he wasnt directly adamant about not claiming. why the fuck are you being indignant about it now instead of yesterday? there was a wagon on him for ages.

[Gorkington]

zzzz. i guess you were technically VLA last few days and catching up.

[Gorkington]

we should honestly probably massclaim.

[Gorkington]

fire assassin and maybe not_mafia are the only people that i feel remotely okay with right now. aristophanes is back in the sort pile for how little he gave this game d2.

p-edit: theres only one more fuck-up to be made. either we plow our way to victory or fail trying. im not interested in giving up at this point.

[Gorkington]

masssssssssclaimmmmmmm.

[Gorkington]

titus wheres your vca. why are you voting in mylo and putting someone at l-2 without a massclaim? ughhhhhhhhhh.

[Gorkington]

whoever is town and isnt fire assassin step your game the fuck up.

[Gorkington]

titus wheres your vca. why are you voting in mylo and putting someone at l-2 without a massclaim? ughhhhhhhhhh.

Where's my scum flip?

There's five alive. How is this mylo?

are you shitting with me titus? 3 scum. 5 town. 1 mislynch and one nightkill is GG. you know this. this is getting dangerously close to scumclaim territory.

[Gorkington]

alright titus. vca or no?
because right now im looking at you really hard.

[Gorkington]

My VCA doesn't happen without a scumslip.

since when.

[Gorkington]

okay. make a readslist then. what a compromise im willing to make because im such a nice person.

[Gorkington]

and not mafia, aristophanes null?

[Gorkington]

im getting really bored of this argument.

[Gorkington]

it needs to get out of the level of mafia that nobody actually plays at.

[Gorkington]

nobody is voting anyone.

[Gorkington]

im compulsive.
that doesnt mean that rc cant be scum rolecop.
i want to take this slow.
reasoning behind targeting fire?

[Gorkington]

also has plot rolled executioner?

[Gorkington]

@ether

is this setup confirmed singleball?

[Gorkington]

hehhhhhhhhhh. :/

[Gorkington]

i need time to process this. please dont rush a lynch.

p-edit: im not scum.

[Gorkington]

if fire assassin was scum i wouldnt have kicked up a shit about the votes on roshar unless im also scum with them too !?!?! one more vote and the game would be over.

[Gorkington]

gork is probs not scum.

"havent townread him at all in ages"
yah okay bud.

firstly.
has
plot
rolled.
executioner.

if not.
RC is scumclaiming.

[Gorkington]

fire assassin and maybe not_mafia are the only people that i feel remotely okay with right now. aristophanes is back in the sort pile for how little he gave this game d2.

p-edit: theres only one more fuck-up to be made. either we plow our way to victory or fail trying. im not interested in giving up at this point.

holy fuck you're bad if you're town.

i swear to god rc if youre town.
im blacklisting you.
fuck you dude.

[Gorkington]

right.

[Gorkington]

youd replace out because man so rude of me to get offended when you constantly shit on me.

[Gorkington]

"how can you have reads this bad?"

when your scumreads have been iece, xkfyu and me.
which are all fucking town.
youre garbage dude.
i hope to fuck youre scum but i dont think you are.

[Gorkington]

i should have let the game die.
fuck me.
im so dumb.

im.
so.
tired.

[Gorkington]

Iece wasn't my wagon. I hammered that for all your fucking benefits because you all got cold feet on AB.
I fucked up royally on XK. But he was lurking in a way that felt very intentional and I scumread him for it.
If you're town, do something to prove it.

my benefits. when i said we should wait.
i didnt try to stop you when i could.
thats my fault.
but to imply that it was solely "lolw.enotmyfault"-of you when it obviously could have been a scumdriven counterwagon is horseshit.

ive done plenty this game.
i doubt im going to have much more to add when i feel as fucking terrible as i do right now.

[Gorkington]

I like 99% sure RC was roleblocked n1

unless a scummate of RC's is a rolecop, hes telling the truth.

[Gorkington]

and you should also know this???

p-edit: im sorry. i really shouldnt be playing right now but here i am.

[Gorkington]

i dont think i can really have fun with mafia anymore.
its my own fault for continually realizing this and ignoring it.

[Gorkington]

if this game.
could just,
slow.
the fuck down.

thatd be great.

[Gorkington]

i honestly dont know.
im looking at this game and i have townreads that i fully know are naive and bad.
theres been a distressing amount of emotion in this game.
im trying hard not to aTe but its hard.

im not really sure anything is going to get me back on my feet in this game, quite honestly.

[Gorkington]

it would be simplifying the problem a lot to say its just RC's fault.

[Gorkington]

i respect that both of them can get results doing so.

[Gorkington]

i was equally reactive.
its okay.

can talk more postgame.

[Gorkington]

star wars mafia was 3:2:8 :'D

[Gorkington]

zzz

[Gorkington]

where your head at.

[Gorkington]

how dare you make jokes at a time like this

[Gorkington]

i think fire assassin is town.
kind of baffled that RC can know who FA is and feel otherwise given his play this game.

[Gorkington]

i think we need massclaim.
this game has nothing to work with.
and in my head i keep trying to fit puzzle pieces together and its just not working.
and if i make another push and it drains me out im probably not gonna be able to give this game another go.

[Gorkington]

you could claim too

[Gorkington]

yes please.

[Gorkington]

lets say i popcorned to you.
though really if i wasnt being lazy i probably would have popcorned someone else.

[Gorkington]

not mafia.
roshan is a good pick though.

[Gorkington]

i thought that might have been wrong.
sorry

[Gorkington]

you should probably popcorn.

[Gorkington]

you tell someone to claim now that youve claimed.

[Gorkington]

k so that likely means 1 scum in not mafia, rc and andro.

which also means that lynch should be in me, ari, roshar, fa and titus for several reasons.
likely two scum in this pile.
currently leaning on SK/2groupscum.
PRs will likely get lopped up by nightkills, making first pile easier to sort.

two sets of groupscum is plausible, but doesnt really seem likely to me.

i would probably be most likely to vote roshar atm.
but i havent really read her iso and probably should.

[Gorkington]

PRs will likely get lopped up by nightkills, making first pile easier to sort.

likely only one scum in this pile based on balance.
IE: a roleblocker and only one of the claimed roles isnt balanced for town with multiball.
less risk if we're wrong.
though if we're wrong town is probably fucked anyways short of multi-crosskill, but it feels nice and neat in my head this way.

[Gorkington]

technically can actually.
8 players is mylo with 3 scum.

[Gorkington]

everyones claimed.
its multiball.

my favourite.

[Gorkington]

im feeling SK more than multiball.
town's powers are too weak.

[Gorkington]

okay.
not really sure i want to lynch not-mafia though.

[Gorkington]

i dont disagree that the BP claim could be an attempt to disincentivize crosskilling him. i just dont particularly want to lynch any PR claims today. we have enough time, is there really any reason why we arent trying to sort through the VT claims?

[Gorkington]

hell could even poke me if you want. im in a pretty decent headspace atm. i would just about rather anything over mindlessly lynching people like we have been so far.

[Gorkington]

okay so main thing before this day can come even close to ending. i want a readslist from EVERYONE. and i want 1-2 reasons for each read. and yes, this is me saying that everyone should put in the effort to actually read the game/read specific people/not just sit on their bums and complain about the game sucking.

[Gorkington]

thats the spirit!

[Gorkington]

i get to drive then.
vroom vrooom.

*shifts gears*

i might read things tonight.

[Gorkington]

why do you think youll be alive tomorrow mr rolecop?

[Gorkington]

if i were scum i would like the idea of carrying you to endgame because killing good people is lame as scum, but i would also have to be stupid not to kill you at this point.

[Gorkington]

burp.

[Gorkington]

NM/FA/Gork/AB make up all of the remaining scum, I'm fairly sure, and considering the FA/you/NM associatives being horrible all around I'm lynching in them.

i would literally bet my entire reputation that this is wrong.

[Gorkington]

like.
if two scum are in this pile, then take away my banner and put me in a retirement home.
thats how confident i am.

[Gorkington]

a roleblocker and a rolecop is not strong enough for town in this setup and you fucking know it.

[Gorkington]

FA is firebringer.
you really think this is firebringer's scumgame?

[Gorkington]

and FA's role is broken af for scum and a potential counterbalance to your role if you are town and hes town.

[Gorkington]

like the only way that this setup isnt terrible is if only one of you/andro/NM is fakeclaiming, theres two mafia and one SK.

[Gorkington]

like if this is somehow 2/2/9 or 3/1/9 with the PR distribution town has and anyone is fakeclaiming then im gonna be really pissed at yimmy.

[Gorkington]

im gonna isodive not-mafia tonight.

im really hating your characterizing me as being the reason for iece/xkfyu lynches though.

[Gorkington]

i really dont disagree with FA using their execution today.
i just really dont trust you at all.

that youre painting these things as being my fault when you drove the xkfyu lynch and hammered iece?
like. if titus is scum [which honestly jury is still out to some degree, im really skeeved by how much shes townreading me], then wouldnt that be you who drove the counterwagon on scum?

[Gorkington]

I'm saying you've been hard defending at least one scum this game.

i dont think its FA.
it could be NM and im not even really saying that i townread him at this point.

[Gorkington]

im happy im not frustrated right now, but this game is still a bag of feelings that im not parsing well.

[Gorkington]

answer is probably to actually read some ISOs and think about the game again. but quitting also sounds pretty good.

i guess my question then is, is lynching SK today the right move?

[Gorkington]

fire, i will make an active effort to be a nice person. i would probably even condense reads with you if you were willing to get your head in the game. but i think you either need to let go of being upset with RC or replace out. im personally not going to give up yet. i dont really think itd be fair to scum to give up just because things arent going our way.

[Gorkington]

why would you not.
:/

[Gorkington]

can you talk about how/whether BP informed your play at all this game, not-mafia?

[Gorkington]

hes executioner, not gladiator.