Mini 1774: Formation of America's Mafiascum - Perfect Town W

[Ranger]

865 was scum defending Klingoncelt.

This game is

nothing

like Open 612, the aforementioned game he was talking about. I'd know, given I was there.

[Ranger]

870 was voting Shiro over Klingoncelt, the two options on the table at the time.

Again, this fits with Persivul's scum meta: he'll distance plenty with his scumbuddies, but push come to shove, he'll only lynch them if it's obvious they're going down, and if he

can

save them, he'll try to.

[Ranger]

Klingoncelt (3) killthestory, Shiro, Suzune
Shiro(4), Dierfire Alchemist21, beeboy, Persivul

This tells the whole story, really.

Klingoncelt was being wagoned.

Persivul tipped the vote majority onto Shiro.

[Ranger]

972 among others show that Persivul was actively trying to lynch Shiro over Klingoncelt, forcing someone who had a null read on Klingoncelt to vote Shiro instead of Klingoncelt.

[Ranger]

981 basically is my thoughts on every player in the game.

[Ranger]

992 was also a solid post on Klingoncelt.

Might I add, it also applies to her Persivul read.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Klingoncelt.

As of 41.

[Ranger]

I'd like to reiterate.

Persivul, as scum.
Will distance. Ergo, 1092.

He will then back out. Ergo, starting in 1096, and then following through in 1109.

And try to keep his scumbuddy alive.

[Ranger]

1123 is all solid analysis and I agree with everything there now that I have read the whole game. (Well, except obviously liking the beeboy case, but that was a given.)

[Ranger]

I am waiting until you reach a point I want to talk about, then you can tell me if you still think that is a good lynch order.

Whatever that point was, I've reached it.

My reads haven't changed. It honestly doesn't matter which of {Klingoncelt, Persivul} we lynch first; both are scum. So, more or less, my order remains unchanged, although I'm currently voting Klingoncelt because the wagon there is larger.

[Suzune]

I'm not as solid on Alc being scum as I am with Bboy so I'm perfectly fine with trusting you on this one. Though if Alc ends up being scum you doing whatever you just did is going to look really bad the day after. Just making this post as a hedge but I think 9/10 Suzune is town here because claiming inventor when an inventor has already flipped is not something that I would expect scum:Suzune to do since Suzune generally is a really safe player even though 2 inventors are probably different alignments purely by setup spec.

I'm struggling on this here Ranger. Do you think it was an assumption of my role, having assuming information. Since I did not claim inventor therefore, I am wondering where this leap came from.

[Nosferatu]

I just finished a scumgame with pers on my team and tonally they don't read the same here.

[Killthestory]

luego i can switch to per mayb

[Ranger]

I'm struggling on this here Ranger. Do you think it was an assumption of my role, having assuming information. Since I did not claim inventor therefore, I am wondering where this leap came from.

Honestly, I was sort-of assuming you

were

an inventor, so I can totally see itlepip coming to that conclusion. I don't see it as alignment-indicative one way or another.

[itlepip]

Oh yeah suzune you give stuff to people that presumably does things which means you're probably an inventor

[Suzune]

Fair, I will let it go. But it was curious to me.

[Klingoncelt]

Just did quite a bit of review and I don't see why kling isn't back on the board. She was on the Window CW to cakez and on the Shiro lynch. She's mostly defended and her few reads are weak and feel like scum making the obligatory list under pressure.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

Sorry, I've been pretty fatigued in real life. Regardless of alignment I'm usually more energetic than this.

[Klingoncelt]

{Firebringer}
{Alchemist21, Killthestory}
{Nosferatu, Dierfire, Klingoncelt}
{BBMolla}
{Suzune}
{itlepip, Persivul}

One.

Itlepip replaced BBMolla.

[Klingoncelt]

... position on the Window Attack wagon...

I'd appreciate it if everyone would read my sig.

Note that I'm in bed asleep while most of you are posting.

That means that I claim at L-1/ post/ vote on other wagons in the middle of the fucking night. After everyone else is long gone.
You know how often I go to a game I'm in, ready to post and I find it locked because someone's been lynched while I was offline?
Besides that, position on wagons is no longer alignment indicative. Scum have changed their tactics since the 2014 model.

[Klingoncelt]

(A mental note to self is that I need to review Klingoncelt's play in Suikoden. This might be the same thing that happened there, her not looking like scum to me but her being the last scum anyway.)

That was a tough game for Scum. My first partner panicked over his role PM and got lynched D1, my second partner didn't last much longer. It was a bitch trying to carry that game solo.

[Klingoncelt]

Btw Ranger, at this point it's ok if you don't get an answer on what Beeboy voted, as at worst it would have tied the vote with Taxation and I would have had to assume Taxation won through RNG.

For people who were wondering why I was interested in the protest votes, I think No Quartering was something Town could have voted for but scum would have never voted for, and was hoping that scum players would claim voting for it for towncred. I was hoping that would lead to a discrepency between the claimed protests and what actually won, and we could have a greatly reduced lynchpool where we knew there was a false claim.

Unfortunately that didn't happen. In retrospect I probably should have suggested scum wouldn't vote no quartering when I first asked for claims to incentivize scum to lie. At least now I can reasonably say Pip is Town because of this.

What did everyone vote for?

[Klingoncelt]

633 was a bad defense, but it's absolutely nothing compared to 638. THAT post, my friends, is why both I and Suzune are town. Klingoncelt wanted to encourage the 1v1 between beeboy and Suzune, since them mutually realizing the other was town and townblocking was something scum could not afford.

Don't be an idiot.

Read what I typed.

I did not think it was T/v/T.

I'm still Null on Suzune.

You're very, very confident this game. I've never seen you so sure of yourself.

[Klingoncelt]

Why is this a scumhammer?

Because it was painfully obvious that SirCakez was going down that day, and he was hoping to earn some town credit for being the hammer vote.

I have seen this behavior from Persivul before. Namely, post 1192 here.

Persivul's play in that game was pretty lethargic, actually.

[Klingoncelt]

I actually enjoy having Ranger do this because i think the game needed the new eyes.

She's certainly energetic!

[Klingoncelt]

787 is really on point in regards to Klingoncelt.

Umm... that's a BBMolla post?