Mini 507: Big Brother Mafia - Game Over

[Untrod Tripod]

BUT the nomination count illustrates a point: the HoH in this case nominated someone with only 1 vote against them, and it was done in a rather OMGUS manner. May not be important for now, but it's definitely something to watch out for.

At the point where we had nominations, you have to remember we had only random unrelated discussion and a few random or OMGUS nominations to go on anyway. On Day 1 start, there's not really all that much to discuss unless someone says something like "Hey guys, I'm scum! lolzors!" Seriously, with the amount that DoS had to go on, he really had only a few options:
1. Go with the people with the most votes (who were most likely chosen for the below-mentioned reasons)
2. Pick randomly
3. Nominate people for OMGUS reasons
4a. Nominate lurkers
4b. Have a secret hidden nazi agenda

This is pretty much the day one norm as far as I've ever seen. I think that you saying we should "watch out for him" is reading just a *little* too far into his actions. Just a thought, though.

[DragonsofSummer]

Dang... you've already caught on to the fact that I have a secret hidden nazi agenda... can't believe you did it that quickly!

[ryan]

We can argue how people were nominated till we are blue in the face, but I think trabony and Flare need to start making a case for why they are town.

[pickemgenius]

I too would like to see some people *cough noms cough* try to maybe say... do something.... else it's gonna be totally fucking random... something that usually doesnt end well =/

[Save The Dragons]

I want a 100% non-secret dragon alliance.

I'm sorry for my absence, I'm not going to have great access until a week from now (or maybe thurs/fri, but then I'll lose it again) although I will have enough.

its stranger of STD because he didn't really give a reason, and he said people that most of the house was suspecting.

You're scum, aren't you?

I am 90% sure who I'm going to vote and I'm probably going to vote very soon.

[Pug89]

Just to let everyone know I'm leaving town tommorrow and won't have much time to post. I will have internet access and should be able to check the game but I definitly won't be posting anything extensive.

[DragonsofSummer]

I'm up for a Dragon Alliance! Us Dragons have to stick together.

[pickemgenius]

dragons are usually meant to be slain.

[DragonsofSummer]

What you mean to say is people think that they should try to slay dragons and fail... it usually ends in their demise. But what they don't realize that if they just left the Dragons alone the two races could get along very well.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

BUT the nomination count illustrates a point: the HoH in this case nominated someone with only 1 vote against them, and it was done in a rather OMGUS manner. May not be important for now, but it's definitely something to watch out for.

At the point where we had nominations, you have to remember we had only random unrelated discussion and a few random or OMGUS nominations to go on anyway. On Day 1 start, there's not really all that much to discuss unless someone says something like "Hey guys, I'm scum! lolzors!" Seriously, with the amount that DoS had to go on, he really had only a few options:
1. Go with the people with the most votes (who were most likely chosen for the below-mentioned reasons)
2. Pick randomly
3. Nominate people for OMGUS reasons
4a. Nominate lurkers
4b. Have a secret hidden nazi agenda

This is pretty much the day one norm as far as I've ever seen. I think that you saying we should "watch out for him" is reading just a *little* too far into his actions. Just a thought, though.

Easy killer I didn't say that we needed to watch out for him, please don't misinterpret my words. I agree with you, and sorry to DoS for making it seem otherwise, that Day 1 is usually a crap shoot. Even more so because we're on a limited time schedule.

However, I was pointing out the fact that despite that Day 1 IS a crap shoot, DoS nominated someone for a

specific reason

, and he went against the rest of the players nominations to do so. We had 3 players with 2 nominations each, and only one of them spoke up in defense against being the 2nd nominee (PuG), which to me means that one of the other two should have been the 2nd nominee along with Trabony. But they weren't, DoS went off to a player with only one vote.

With the limited amount of information we have, having something

specific

against another player, even something as simple as "he's lurking" needs to be examined, especially in light of the fact that the other nominee (Trabony) got no reasoning for his nomination, whereas Flare did (we're all assuming that it's because Trabony has 4 votes and is the standout votee for this round, which I'm happy to go with because it's a logical assumption). This implies motivation - whether for the stated reason or not remains to be determined. I'm not advocating that we come out of the gates Day 2 and lynch DoS because he nominated someone on his own Day 1, I'm saying that we shouldn't just overlook it because it could be important information for later.

[ryan]

Vel: Agreed it could be big for later, but to dwell on it now is counter productive. We have two nominations and neither has really put up much of a fight so far.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Very true, I wasn't dwelling on it per se, I wanted to answer DoS and Tripod's responses to my statement.

I'm guessing that we're not going to get much out of either one of them, which is a shame because whoever is left for tomorrow will still need to be playing. If they're both town they're doing us a disservice and should request replacement instead of stringing us all along.

Come on guys say something!

[ryan]

Vel: You are thinking what I'm thinking which is IF they are both town we have no clue due to no defense. Come on fellas, something?

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Well based solely on random chance, there's a 9/12 chance that they ARE town. Not good odds.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

EBWOP: Sorry I forgot there were 2 scum groups. So we have a 50/50 shot. Better, but not great.

[Flare]

Woo!

I'll catch up soon at what has happened.

No he won't, because distad has replaced Flare

[DragonsofSummer]

^^
Its posts like this that make me even more sure of my nomination of him.

[pickemgenius]

^^
Its posts like this that make me even more sure of my nomination of him.

I don't dig this post.

[ryan]

PMG: I have to slightly agree with DoS, it's obvious that Flare has been nominted (it says so in the thread title) for him to pop back on and act like he doesn't know what's going on is pretty silly don't ya think?

[pickemgenius]

PMG: I have to slightly agree with DoS, it's obvious that Flare has been nominted (it says so in the thread title) for him to pop back on and act like he doesn't know what's going on is pretty silly don't ya think?

not really.


He could have seen that and been all: "oh shit I wonder what's been going on, I better let them know i'm alive and will post something later."

[pickemgenius]

PMG: I have to slightly agree with DoS, it's obvious that Flare has been nominted (it says so in the thread title) for him to pop back on and act like he doesn't know what's going on is pretty silly don't ya think?

also, how the fuck do you justify nominating someone on the chance they might make a post. It just seemed DoS was predicting future events, or would use anything possible to justify his noms...


*double post*

[DragonsofSummer]

I nominated him because he was lurking. Whether it would get him to post or not wasn't important. A lurker in a game that runs on a time limit is bad for the town.

[DragonsofSummer]

EBWODP: Also he had picked up a prod already and showed up to say that he basically had no idea what was going on, and went back to lurking. What was to stop him from doing that through the whole game?

[pickemgenius]

I nominated him because he was lurking. Whether it would get him to post or not wasn't important. A lurker in a game that runs on a time limit is bad for the town.

Lurker town still=town. ALSO!

EBWODP: Also he had picked up a prod already and showed up to say that he basically had no idea what was going on, and went back to lurking. What was to stop him from doing that through the whole game?

also, how the fuck do you justify nominating someone on the chance they might make a post.

It just seemed DoS was predicting future events

, or would use anything possible to justify his noms...

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I can't believe I was right!!!!

This is totally news to me pause NOT!

[DragonsofSummer]

Dude, Pickem, you are putting words in my mouth.

Also there is no need to get hostile. You need to chill out.