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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Hang 'em High Goon
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I can confirm that I was roleblocked on the first night, which further validates Gorgon's claim. Unfortunately, it's not going to be as cut and dried as BM is hoping. I will make a full claim, but first I want Battle Mage to do so. BM, please reveal your power and the results you received. Once you've done so I'll do the same.There are two types of people in the world -- those who divide people into types and those who don't.
Note: I've got LA on weekends and in the evening.-
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Sonicpulsar Goon
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I don't really have much to add right now. I'm interested to hear what BM has to say now. I'll be able to give any new posts a good look while I'm in lab tomorrow."Truth and Falsehood were bathing. Falsehood came out of the water first and dressed herself in Truth's clothes. Truth, unwilling to put on the garments of Falsehood, went naked." - Unknown-
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ChronX Goon
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distad Goon
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Okay... I'm back. It was a VERY needed long weekend.
All of these claims are particularly interesting to me. HeH and SP are breadcrumbing and I'm curious about Gorgon's claim (particularly why he would randomly RB on Night 1 without any information).
Frankly, I feel left out. Everyone has these neat roles and I get nothing.
I'll wait to see BM's and Atticus's theories and hopefully we can put something together.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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ah thats good. I'm going to assume that HeH doesnt want to counter that, so i think we can confirm Gorgon as town, which is awesome. Now, i'm intrigued by HeH's offer of me claiming first, so i will comply, but only when Chronx claims who he saw on the second night, targetting me. Obviously if he saw HeH, HeH can also be confirmed. If he saw Gorgon, HeH still remains a suspect.Gorgon wrote:Okay, I'll claim.
I'm a roleblocker, and yes, I blocked BM on the second night, on my perpetual hunch that he might be scum, and that if he were scum, he would be a likely candidate to be sent to do the nightkill, seeing that he went against the flow in general at the end of the day, and opposed the d3sisted lynch, and was therefore possibly least suspicious of the scum. Heck, I had to pick someone anyway.
On the first night, I selected randomly and blocked HeH. Last night, I blocked Atticus as a very possible scum candidate. I picked him over HeH because HeH was redeeming himself a lot by the end of the day with his analyses, while Atticus was as lurkish as ever.
Guess HeH is next.
Distad's post confuses me a little. There was no real reason to claim vanilla yet. I also don't see what you mean about SP and HeH breadcrumbing. I don't see why you would question Gorgon about his Night 1 Roleblock choice. Obviously as a protown power role like RB, you want to confirm yourself as early as possible. By using his power every night, Gorgon has managed to confirm himself as innocent.
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Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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distad Goon
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What I'm saying is that it seems risky to me to use the RB on Night 0 when none of the game has been played. I've never had that role before, though, so I guess I shouldn't question that particular game-theory.
The breadcrumbs were large, more like chunks of bread. Saying that they will claim later today after they've heard more. Whether true or not, they are implying that they have a power role.
My claiming vanilla was more of frustration because almost everyone in this game has had something to claim and I certainly drew the short stick. We're all going to end up claiming today anyway; it was not unwarranted.-
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Gorgon Goon
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ChronX Goon
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I think not, BM. You have your cake. Now go on and eat it.Battle Mage wrote: ah thats good. I'm going to assume that HeH doesnt want to counter that, so i think we can confirm Gorgon as town, which is awesome. Now, i'm intrigued by HeH's offer of me claiming first, so i will comply,but only when Chronx claims who he saw on the second night, targetting me. Obviously if he saw HeH, HeH can also be confirmed. If he saw Gorgon, HeH still remains a suspect.
Distad's post confuses me a little. There was no real reason to claim vanilla yet. I also don't see what you mean about SP and HeH breadcrumbing. I don't see why you would question Gorgon about his Night 1 Roleblock choice. Obviously as a protown power role like RB, you want to confirm yourself as early as possible. By using his power every night, Gorgon has managed to confirm himself as innocent.
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I HIGHLY recommend that everyone else sit back and let this play out between HeH and BM. They are full of info they are just DYING to share once someone else shares some.
Distad, your are singing just the right tune.
Atticus, what did you find?
SP, if you breadcrumbed, let the birds eat it for now.
Gorgon, roleblocker is a bit like vig, night 1 (zero, whatever) its a huge crapshoot whether to use it or not. In a game with 1 mafia, and several protown power roles, you have higher odds of blocking the cop or the doc or whatever. Much like his cop fishing earlier, BM is either really bad at this game or full of it at the moment.
So, BM....enlighten us. Or persuade HeH.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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this post makes little sense to me. Why now so cagey with information? especially such important information...ChronX wrote:
I think not, BM. You have your cake. Now go on and eat it.Battle Mage wrote: ah thats good. I'm going to assume that HeH doesnt want to counter that, so i think we can confirm Gorgon as town, which is awesome. Now, i'm intrigued by HeH's offer of me claiming first, so i will comply,but only when Chronx claims who he saw on the second night, targetting me. Obviously if he saw HeH, HeH can also be confirmed. If he saw Gorgon, HeH still remains a suspect.
Distad's post confuses me a little. There was no real reason to claim vanilla yet. I also don't see what you mean about SP and HeH breadcrumbing. I don't see why you would question Gorgon about his Night 1 Roleblock choice. Obviously as a protown power role like RB, you want to confirm yourself as early as possible. By using his power every night, Gorgon has managed to confirm himself as innocent.
BM
I HIGHLY recommend that everyone else sit back and let this play out between HeH and BM. They are full of info they are just DYING to share once someone else shares some.
Distad, your are singing just the right tune.
Atticus, what did you find?
SP, if you breadcrumbed, let the birds eat it for now.
Gorgon, roleblocker is a bit like vig, night 1 (zero, whatever) its a huge crapshoot whether to use it or not. In a game with 1 mafia, and several protown power roles, you have higher odds of blocking the cop or the doc or whatever. Much like his cop fishing earlier, BM is either really bad at this game or full of it at the moment.
So, BM....enlighten us. Or persuade HeH.
I'm not claiming until we know where we stand. That means you confirming either Gorgon or HeH as targetting me on Night 2.
Then i will gladly claim all.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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distad Goon
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He said that he did not target BM - then EBWODP that he did not target him on N2, specifically. I assumed it to mean a power role.Gorgon wrote:
Where did SP say he was going to claim? I'm not seeing it ...distad wrote:The breadcrumbs were large, more like chunks of bread. Saying that they will claim later today after they've heard more. Whether true or not, they are implying that they have a power role.-
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Hang 'em High Goon
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@ Battle Mage.Let's claim at the same time. Compose a post that reveals your role, powers, what you did each night and the result of your action. I'll do the same. When you're ready, post a note and we'll pick a time to simultaneously post. That way, our claims cannot be modified based on what the other has said. If either of us fails to post at the agreed upon time they will look inherently scummy. I've got nothing to hide. If you don't either, please agree with this course of action.There are two types of people in the world -- those who divide people into types and those who don't.
Note: I've got LA on weekends and in the evening.-
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ChronX Goon
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Hey, for clarity, why don't we stop referring to nights by number and honor the memory of the dead:
The Night Confused Died
The Night Raffles Died and
The Night Desisted/Pigg/Mason2 Died
I don't want anyone to forget about good old Confused especially.
So, for clarity:
SP, you DID NOT target BM on the night RAFFLES died?Effectively done with MS-
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ChronX Goon
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*cues the Debbie Boone music*Gorgon wrote:What a crappy start. Lucky scum bastards ...
Vote: Battle Magebecause he's the only one here whose name I remember seeing in the games I've read.
Memories....da da da doo doo dee da....Troubling scumtelly in his first post MEMMMMMMMMM-O-RIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES...of the way...we were.....-
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Sonicpulsar Goon
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No. Can I make it any clearer than that? Before, I realized I left my response somewhat ambiguous and wanted to clarify (and I said as much).Battle Mage wrote:I simply want everyone to say yes or no to the question:
Did you target BM on Night 2?"Truth and Falsehood were bathing. Falsehood came out of the water first and dressed herself in Truth's clothes. Truth, unwilling to put on the garments of Falsehood, went naked." - Unknown-
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Battle Mage Jester
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lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.Hang 'em High wrote:@ Battle Mage.Let's claim at the same time. Compose a post that reveals your role, powers, what you did each night and the result of your action. I'll do the same. When you're ready, post a note and we'll pick a time to simultaneously post. That way, our claims cannot be modified based on what the other has said. If either of us fails to post at the agreed upon time they will look inherently scummy. I've got nothing to hide. If you don't either, please agree with this course of action.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Battle Mage Jester
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i'm sorry but i'm missing the significance of this. lolChronX wrote:
*cues the Debbie Boone music*Gorgon wrote:What a crappy start. Lucky scum bastards ...
Vote: Battle Magebecause he's the only one here whose name I remember seeing in the games I've read.
Memories....da da da doo doo dee da....Troubling scumtelly in his first post MEMMMMMMMMM-O-RIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES...of the way...we were.....
Can you just claim who you tracked on the 'night in which Raffles died'.
From your posts at SP, am i to assume that you saw HIM targetting me!?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Hang 'em High Goon
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Hang 'em High Goon
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I don't see why ChronX needs to say this before we claim.Battle Mage wrote:lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.There are two types of people in the world -- those who divide people into types and those who don't.
Note: I've got LA on weekends and in the evening.-
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distad Goon
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QFT. If BM's claim doesn't depend on ChronX, specifically, what's the hold up?Hang 'em High wrote:
I don't see why ChronX needs to say this before we claim.Battle Mage wrote:lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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because as well as my claim, i'd like to make some reasonable assumptions, which it is very hard to do when we cannot ascertain whether HeH is confirmed innocent or not.distad wrote:
QFT. If BM's claim doesn't depend on ChronX, specifically, what's the hold up?Hang 'em High wrote:
I don't see why ChronX needs to say this before we claim.Battle Mage wrote:lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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