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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:21 am

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In all honesty, HeH, I probably haven't read half of this game.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:29 am

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Sorry, meant to be addressed to distad. Anyway, reading now.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:51 am

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I did a read over the last couple of pages, and unless HeH contradicts me, I've found something.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:06 pm

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I can confirm that I was roleblocked on the first night, which further validates Gorgon's claim. Unfortunately, it's not going to be as cut and dried as BM is hoping. I will make a full claim, but first I want Battle Mage to do so. BM, please reveal your power and the results you received. Once you've done so I'll do the same.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:53 pm

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I don't really have much to add right now. I'm interested to hear what BM has to say now. I'll be able to give any new posts a good look while I'm in lab tomorrow.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:35 am

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I am back from my weekend o' "fun" and relieved to be at work. Nothing like family to make you glad for your desk job. Anyway. I await BM and HeH's revelations before I discuss what I did last night.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:36 am

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Okay... I'm back. It was a VERY needed long weekend. :)

All of these claims are particularly interesting to me. HeH and SP are breadcrumbing and I'm curious about Gorgon's claim (particularly why he would randomly RB on Night 1 without any information).

Frankly, I feel left out. Everyone has these neat roles and I get nothing. :?

I'll wait to see BM's and Atticus's theories and hopefully we can put something together.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:55 am

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distad wrote:I'm curious about Gorgon's claim (particularly why he would randomly RB on Night 1 without any information).
Well, at the time I didn't know I had the option of not blocking anyone, although I know better now. You live and learn, I guess. :?
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:54 am

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Gorgon wrote:Okay, I'll claim.

I'm a roleblocker, and yes, I blocked BM on the second night, on my perpetual hunch that he might be scum, and that if he were scum, he would be a likely candidate to be sent to do the nightkill, seeing that he went against the flow in general at the end of the day, and opposed the d3sisted lynch, and was therefore possibly least suspicious of the scum. Heck, I had to pick someone anyway.

On the first night, I selected randomly and blocked HeH. Last night, I blocked Atticus as a very possible scum candidate. I picked him over HeH because HeH was redeeming himself a lot by the end of the day with his analyses, while Atticus was as lurkish as ever.

Guess HeH is next.
ah thats good. I'm going to assume that HeH doesnt want to counter that, so i think we can confirm Gorgon as town, which is awesome. Now, i'm intrigued by HeH's offer of me claiming first, so i will comply, but only when Chronx claims who he saw on the second night, targetting me. Obviously if he saw HeH, HeH can also be confirmed. If he saw Gorgon, HeH still remains a suspect.

Distad's post confuses me a little. There was no real reason to claim vanilla yet. I also don't see what you mean about SP and HeH breadcrumbing. I don't see why you would question Gorgon about his Night 1 Roleblock choice. Obviously as a protown power role like RB, you want to confirm yourself as early as possible. By using his power every night, Gorgon has managed to confirm himself as innocent.

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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:05 am

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What I'm saying is that it seems risky to me to use the RB on Night 0 when none of the game has been played. I've never had that role before, though, so I guess I shouldn't question that particular game-theory.

The breadcrumbs were large, more like chunks of bread. Saying that they will claim later today after they've heard more. Whether true or not, they are implying that they have a power role.

My claiming vanilla was more of frustration because almost everyone in this game has had something to claim and I certainly drew the short stick. We're all going to end up claiming today anyway; it was not unwarranted.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:12 am

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distad wrote:The breadcrumbs were large, more like chunks of bread. Saying that they will claim later today after they've heard more. Whether true or not, they are implying that they have a power role.
Where did SP say he was going to claim? I'm not seeing it ...
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:21 am

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Battle Mage wrote: ah thats good. I'm going to assume that HeH doesnt want to counter that, so i think we can confirm Gorgon as town, which is awesome. Now, i'm intrigued by HeH's offer of me claiming first, so i will comply,
but only when Chronx claims who he saw on the second night, targetting me
. Obviously if he saw HeH, HeH can also be confirmed. If he saw Gorgon, HeH still remains a suspect.

Distad's post confuses me a little. There was no real reason to claim vanilla yet. I also don't see what you mean about SP and HeH breadcrumbing. I don't see why you would question Gorgon about his Night 1 Roleblock choice. Obviously as a protown power role like RB, you want to confirm yourself as early as possible. By using his power every night, Gorgon has managed to confirm himself as innocent.

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I think not, BM. You have your cake. Now go on and eat it.

I HIGHLY recommend that everyone else sit back and let this play out between HeH and BM. They are full of info they are just DYING to share once someone else shares some.

Distad, your are singing just the right tune.
Atticus, what did you find?
SP, if you breadcrumbed, let the birds eat it for now.
Gorgon, roleblocker is a bit like vig, night 1 (zero, whatever) its a huge crapshoot whether to use it or not. In a game with 1 mafia, and several protown power roles, you have higher odds of blocking the cop or the doc or whatever. Much like his cop fishing earlier, BM is either really bad at this game or full of it at the moment.

So, BM....enlighten us. Or persuade HeH.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:28 am

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ChronX wrote:
Battle Mage wrote: ah thats good. I'm going to assume that HeH doesnt want to counter that, so i think we can confirm Gorgon as town, which is awesome. Now, i'm intrigued by HeH's offer of me claiming first, so i will comply,
but only when Chronx claims who he saw on the second night, targetting me
. Obviously if he saw HeH, HeH can also be confirmed. If he saw Gorgon, HeH still remains a suspect.

Distad's post confuses me a little. There was no real reason to claim vanilla yet. I also don't see what you mean about SP and HeH breadcrumbing. I don't see why you would question Gorgon about his Night 1 Roleblock choice. Obviously as a protown power role like RB, you want to confirm yourself as early as possible. By using his power every night, Gorgon has managed to confirm himself as innocent.

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I think not, BM. You have your cake. Now go on and eat it.

I HIGHLY recommend that everyone else sit back and let this play out between HeH and BM. They are full of info they are just DYING to share once someone else shares some.

Distad, your are singing just the right tune.
Atticus, what did you find?
SP, if you breadcrumbed, let the birds eat it for now.
Gorgon, roleblocker is a bit like vig, night 1 (zero, whatever) its a huge crapshoot whether to use it or not. In a game with 1 mafia, and several protown power roles, you have higher odds of blocking the cop or the doc or whatever. Much like his cop fishing earlier, BM is either really bad at this game or full of it at the moment.

So, BM....enlighten us. Or persuade HeH.
this post makes little sense to me. Why now so cagey with information? especially such important information...
I'm not claiming until we know where we stand. That means you confirming either Gorgon or HeH as targetting me on Night 2.

Then i will gladly claim all.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:32 am

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distad wrote:The breadcrumbs were large, more like chunks of bread. Saying that they will claim later today after they've heard more. Whether true or not, they are implying that they have a power role.
Where did SP say he was going to claim? I'm not seeing it ...
He said that he did not target BM - then EBWODP that he did not target him on N2, specifically. I assumed it to mean a power role.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:13 am

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@ Battle Mage.
Let's claim at the same time. Compose a post that reveals your role, powers, what you did each night and the result of your action. I'll do the same. When you're ready, post a note and we'll pick a time to simultaneously post. That way, our claims cannot be modified based on what the other has said. If either of us fails to post at the agreed upon time they will look inherently scummy. I've got nothing to hide. If you don't either, please agree with this course of action.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:40 am

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Hey, for clarity, why don't we stop referring to nights by number and honor the memory of the dead:

The Night Confused Died
The Night Raffles Died and
The Night Desisted/Pigg/Mason2 Died

I don't want anyone to forget about good old Confused especially.

So, for clarity:

SP, you DID NOT target BM on the night RAFFLES died?
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:45 am

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Gorgon wrote:What a crappy start. Lucky scum bastards ... :(

Vote: Battle Mage
because he's the only one here whose name I remember seeing in the games I've read.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:23 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
I simply want everyone to say yes or no to the question:
Did you target BM on Night 2?
No. Can I make it any clearer than that? Before, I realized I left my response somewhat ambiguous and wanted to clarify (and I said as much).
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:27 am

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@ Battle Mage.
Let's claim at the same time. Compose a post that reveals your role, powers, what you did each night and the result of your action. I'll do the same. When you're ready, post a note and we'll pick a time to simultaneously post. That way, our claims cannot be modified based on what the other has said. If either of us fails to post at the agreed upon time they will look inherently scummy. I've got nothing to hide. If you don't either, please agree with this course of action.
lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:29 am

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ChronX wrote:
Gorgon wrote:What a crappy start. Lucky scum bastards ... :(

Vote: Battle Mage
because he's the only one here whose name I remember seeing in the games I've read.
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i'm sorry but i'm missing the significance of this. lol
Can you just claim who you tracked on the 'night in which Raffles died'.
From your posts at SP, am i to assume that you saw HIM targetting me!? :shock:
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:26 am

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ChronX wrote:Atticus, what did you find?
HeH confirming that he was roleblocked invalidates my suspicion.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:32 am

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My offer to Battle Mage stands, although I'm leaving now and probably won't have a chance to post again until tomorrow morning.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:34 am

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Battle Mage wrote:lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.
I don't see why ChronX needs to say this before we claim.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:42 am

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Hang 'em High wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.
I don't see why ChronX needs to say this before we claim.
QFT. If BM's claim doesn't depend on ChronX, specifically, what's the hold up?
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:58 am

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distad wrote:
Hang 'em High wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:lol its ok dude. I've said i have no problem with claiming first. But, the thing that does bother me is not knowing who Chronx actually saw targetting me. Not that it has any impact on my claim itself, but it does have serious impact on what we should do next.
I don't see why ChronX needs to say this before we claim.
QFT. If BM's claim doesn't depend on ChronX, specifically, what's the hold up?
because as well as my claim, i'd like to make some reasonable assumptions, which it is very hard to do when we cannot ascertain whether HeH is confirmed innocent or not.
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