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[Boonskiies]

They both are giving crap reasonings and switch wagons when something gets going. I am scum reading chilled for the same reasons texcat is being scum read.

So, why can't this be SvS from your PoV?

Also, I haven't been paying too much to expedience. I feel like he's repeating himself.

Really? that's surprising, considering you both have the exact same reads (minus chilled)

I wouldn't say we have exact same reads. I feel he scum reads you harder than I do, and my scum read on you is more external. And minus chilled is quite a big thing. We may have lean scum reads on similar people, but I assure you, our reads are

not

the same.

[Sakura Hana]

Their behavior doesnt benefit scum/scum at all. They are very likely to get one of themselves lynched if they are scum/scum, and that's just not good scum play at all.

Scumpartner tex is getting lynched one way or another scum chilled comes to bus to grab the towncred.
chilled's tunneling town on tex who scum is taking advantage of to mislynch.

There i gave you 2 very common scenarios of possible TvTs and SvS.
Can you really ignore those posibilities? and if so why? with examples please.

[Sakura Hana]

but I assure you, our reads are not the same.

Sakura, Sakaya, texcat (Expedience)
texcat,

chilled

, Sakura, Sakaya (Boons)

yeah not the same totally.

[Sakura Hana]

You even FoS'd the person he was voting!

[Boonskiies]

Can you read what I wrote? Like actually? I just fucking said that. I literally. Just said that in the post you quoted from. The people we are scum reading are the same, but we by no means have the same reads. Sayaka/Sakura don't even need to be on my list tbh. That's just me pushing out the outer rim of reads, but those are easily changeable. My chilled/texcat is my main read. Him or having texcat/chilled a priority completely makes our reads different, but involving similar people.

[Boonskiies]

You can't just cross out chilled like that. It's just a complete misrep. If you can cross out my chilled, you can cross out my Sakura/Sayaka. Now is it the same reads to you people who need basic visual representation?

[Sakura Hana]

Im doing so to show a more graphical way of explaining this:

considering you both have the exact same reads (minus chilled)

it doesnt change the fact that you got asked your top 3 scumreads, and your texcat and chilled reads are reverse of each other, so assuming chilled town, your reads would be the exact same, or are you saying that you lied and those arent your top 3 scumreads?

[Sakura Hana]

While we're at it, if you haven't been paying attention to Expedience, how do you know your reads arent the same strength?

[Sakura Hana]

Expedicen+Boons+(Lowell?)

[Almost50]

Expedicen+Boons+(Lowell?)

That's where I'm at. That's where I've been all along.

[Expedience]

Sakura

, when you return, please vote Garmr.

Will

you do that for me?

Make

sure not to make any wagon speed arguments, though!

Why you should vote Garmr
- The

shitty

misrepresentation of chilledtea, and he always argues with any criticism of him or his posts using poor and scummy rhetoric (these are like protective clauses so that he can't answer back)
-

Opportunistic

vote on me after I call him out as scum, and he always argues with any criticism of him or his posts using poor and scummy rhetoric
- His

push

on Lowell evaporates when d2 begins, even though he wanted to lynch Lowell over Madonna yesterday, and he always argues with any criticism of him or his posts using poor and scummy rhetoric
-

On

d1 weirdly he read you, knightmare, and I all as town even though we argued with no legitimate explanation why, and he always argues with any criticism of him or his posts using poor and scummy rhetoric
-

I

asked you to, and he always argues with any criticism of him or his posts using poor and scummy rhetoric

called it lol

[Expedience]

Here are the lists provided by others. Everyone has their own suspects:

Boons, Lowell & Expedience (Almost)
texcat, Lowell & chilledtea (smith)
Garmr, texcat & Lowell (chilledtea)
chilledtea, Lowell & Boons (texcat)
chilledtea, Boons & Expedience (Garmr)
Sakura, Sakaya, texcat (Expedience)
texcat, chilled, Sakura, Sakaya (Boons)

Yeh, I meant to include Garmr in the list but I thought you asked me for

other

scumreads, I'm voting him obviously.

[Garmr]

VOTE: Expedience

Since my chilled wagon isn't getting anymore votes.

[Expedience]

You know, I should've just said "inb4 sakura votes me" and prevented scum from trying to wagon me. It's a bit irritating since there's at least one town who's going to blindly sheep them.

[Expedience]

Garmr (1): Expedience

Here are the lists provided by others. Everyone has their own suspects:

<snip>
Sakura, Sakaya, texcat (Expedience)
<snip>

Uh what.
Garmr is nowhere in this list yet Exp is voting him?

SCUMTELL FOUND!

[Expedience]

Also if Expedience is scumreading texcat why isnt he helping lynch her? Considering he's been doing everything about getting me to vote.

Hmm no, from what i know of scum!Expedience he wouldn't hesistate to bus texcat if they were partners, texcat might be a mislynch
VOTE: Expedience

Faker than the backing down from knightmare, trying to give the appearance of confidence.

[Expedience]

Im doing so to show a more graphical way of explaining this:

considering you both have the exact same reads (minus chilled)

it doesnt change the fact that you got asked your top 3 scumreads, and your texcat and chilled reads are reverse of each other, so assuming chilled town, your reads would be the exact same, or are you saying that you lied and those arent your top 3 scumreads?

While we're at it, if you haven't been paying attention to Expedience, how do you know your reads arent the same strength?

Expedicen+Boons+(Lowell?)

I feel like it's gotten to the point where if people can't see that page 34 Sakura is utter bullshit, they should just stop playing.

[Garmr]

Lol exp you're so funny.

[mhsmith0]

Garmr (1): Expedience

Here are the lists provided by others. Everyone has their own suspects:

<snip>
Sakura, Sakaya, texcat (Expedience)
<snip>

Uh what.
Garmr is nowhere in this list yet Exp is voting him?

SCUMTELL FOUND!

Can you clarify this one? What's the scum plan here? Or is an inadvertent slip?

Expedicen+Boons+(Lowell?)

I feel like it's gotten to the point where if people can't see that page 34 Sakura is utter bullshit, they should just stop playing.[/quote]

How reasonable do you think it is that she might be somewhat checked out of the game and not fully following everything post V/LA?

[Expedience]

Garmr (1): Expedience

Here are the lists provided by others. Everyone has their own suspects:

<snip>
Sakura, Sakaya, texcat (Expedience)
<snip>

Uh what.
Garmr is nowhere in this list yet Exp is voting him?

SCUMTELL FOUND!

Can you clarify this one? What's the scum plan here? Or is an inadvertent slip?

I was mocking Sakura, how she was trying to make irrelevant things sound alignment indicative. There are multiple instances in which I have done this and people have missed the point, apparently unable to see how what I was quoting made no sense.

Expedicen+Boons+(Lowell?)

I feel like it's gotten to the point where if people can't see that page 34 Sakura is utter bullshit, they should just stop playing.

How reasonable do you think it is that she might be somewhat checked out of the game and not fully following everything post V/LA?

She was lining up a push on me for ages, she was always going to vote me when she got the chance. I don't think reading the thread has much to do with it, really. Her stances are still awful.

[mhsmith0]

I was mocking Sakura, how she was trying to make irrelevant things sound alignment indicative. There are multiple instances in which I have done this and people have missed the point, apparently unable to see how what I was quoting made no sense.

OK fair enough. I thought you were being explicitly serious there, and was struggling to see it.

[Boonskiies]

Their behavior doesnt benefit scum/scum at all. They are very likely to get one of themselves lynched if they are scum/scum, and that's just not good scum play at all.

Scumpartner tex is getting lynched one way or another scum chilled comes to bus to grab the towncred.
chilled's tunneling town on tex who scum is taking advantage of to mislynch.

There i gave you 2 very common scenarios of possible TvTs and SvS.
Can you really ignore those posibilities? and if so why? with examples please.

This is moot because I feel like I'm the only one actually trying to push the fucking scum. I'm the one trying to get them lynched, and I know I'm town. So that second point isn't applicable.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Expedience

Since my chilled wagon isn't getting anymore votes.

Ugh.

[Boonskiies]

Can someone explain the Exp is scum case? I'm not seeing it at all. Maybe I space out everytime I read his posts and just am not picking up what's scummy about him, but I'm just seeing hardcore tunneling town.

[Expedience]

Garmr and Sakura are scum chainsawing each other, Almost50 is town who doesn't know how to comprehend sarcasm. That's all there is to it.