Chaos Diplomacy FINISHED! Who were the survivors?

[OhGodMyLife]

Or as the magic 8 ball would say, "Reply hazy, ask again later."

[ActionDan]

I'd rather you support the low countries so everyone doesn't get overrun than Venice nabbing Munich. It won't help anyone and incur german wrath. so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmm.

The importance of this move is Warsaw. Cheery needs to know that he needs to help kill Russia, or he's caught in the middle of a war and will be a casualty automatically.

[OhGodMyLife]

I'd rather you support the low countries so everyone doesn't get overrun than Venice nabbing Munich. It won't help anyone and incur german wrath. so.

I hope you'll understand my hesitation at leaving my home center undefended against a neighboring army belonging to a rival super-alliance.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd rather you support the low countries so everyone doesn't get overrun than Venice nabbing Munich. It won't help anyone and incur german wrath. so.

Kätzchen in einer Wut ?

[Cephrir]

My Propsal

Budapest to Galacia
Munich to Silescia
Berlin to Prussia

We force Warsaw to make a choice. Fight with us against the russians, or die as we all support Budapest's troop into Warsaw.

Isn't Vienna to Galicia better than this for everyone? That allows Budapest to help me against sevastopol

Otherwise I'm very on board with this.

[ActionDan]

I mean I guess if Mun were to move to sil that won't happen anyway.

Well I'll leave it to Venice to decide for himself. But your other suggestion of Turning on Mar is not going to happen in any universe

[Cephrir]

My Propsal

Budapest to Galacia
Munich to Silescia
Berlin to Prussia

We force Warsaw to make a choice. Fight with us against the russians, or die as we all support Budapest's troop into Warsaw.

I suggest

klick

to move in to take an abandoned Berlin if possible.

Warsaw

, if you try and move into one of the territories Germany is trying to invade, you'll both bounce back to the original territories which will put you out of harms way.

Which is why Budapest is needed to support the move to Galicia

Kiel could easily prevent such a move from denmark, who is probably not interested in screwing his relations with germany anyway

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My Propsal

Budapest to Galacia
Munich to Silescia
Berlin to Prussia

We force Warsaw to make a choice. Fight with us against the russians, or die as we all support Budapest's troop into Warsaw.

Isn't Vienna to Galicia better than this for everyone? That allows Budapest to help me against sevastopol

Otherwise I'm very on board with this.

I mean, if it is I'm happy to follow.

I'm not a great strategist as it happens, I lack the... visual spacial intelligence for area control.

that being said, if this were just an area control game, it wouldn't be so fun~. I'm happy to follow anything that works against Russia.

[N]

3. @Kiel (N): As long as you're not attacking me, I have no interest in attacking you. I have reason to focus on the seas, and you benefit more from southern land gains. Non-aggression pact?

yes

[JDGA]

I am willing to support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria and I am kind of hoping for Serbian assistance in the matter as well.

die

I am willing to support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria and I am kind of hoping for Serbian assistance in the matter as well.

I propose that Bulgaria immediately support Serbia to Greece

sure, though there's a good chance my support will get cut so we may have to do it the other way around?

I am willing to support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria and I am kind of hoping for Serbian assistance in the matter as well.

sure! okay!!

no CC bad CC

can someone please tell me what i should do

NOT THAT

Greece, do you really want to work against you rimmediate neighbors? Does that not strike you as an absolutely awful idea?

I think we should be working with Italy as well and they with us and that the Mediterranean alliance is really just a silly idea. It's so hard to play as any of the central powers, we all need each other

No I plan on working with Serbia and anyone else who is willing at the moment. If you would like to assist the destruction of Bulgaria that would be beautiful as well. However Bulgaria has been largely absent from the game so working with them is rather hard and due to this fact leaving them alive is a danger to all adjacent countries as they are unpredictable.

what
you cannot be serious

Hey, you three

Join the MABP yea?

uh sure, just as soon as Greece stops trying to annihilate me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

3. @Kiel (N): As long as you're not attacking me, I have no interest in attacking you. I have reason to focus on the seas, and you benefit more from southern land gains. Non-aggression pact?

yes

Klick, can I ask that I be included on this? All of Germany wants no quarrel or war with you. We are focused on the people who have directly stated they're coming after us.

[Zulfy]

Greece would you consider rolling over an alternative balkan state?

[Save The Dragons]

this game is both exciting and terrifying at the same time

[Save The Dragons]

Hey D3f I'm cool with not attacking each other. I mean I have a fleet anyway so it's pretty much me asking you not to attack Brest when I move my fleet somewhere potentially.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'll not annihilate Bulgaria. I'm ok with sitting right.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

@jdga you weren't here and you took no stances so I took one for you.

[D3f3nd3r]

Hey D3f I'm cool with not attacking each other. I mean I have a fleet anyway so it's pretty much me asking you not to attack Brest when I move my fleet somewhere potentially.

Yeah, of course. Don't worry.

[Zulfy]

Tunis and Spain could also tag-team portugal.

[Cheery Dog]

Hmm.

The importance of this move is Warsaw. Cheery needs to know that he needs to help kill Russia, or he's caught in the middle of a war and will be a casualty automatically.

Please don't kill unarmed civilians

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmm.

The importance of this move is Warsaw. Cheery needs to know that he needs to help kill Russia, or he's caught in the middle of a war and will be a casualty automatically.

Please don't kill unarmed civilians

Are you willing to fight Russia?

Help me kill Axxle.

[pablito]

LLD, I'm strongly considering the march on Russia with you, however I still have concerns about holding the low countries against the naval onslaught from the north. If they gain a beachhead on the mainland before the end of year one we're both going to have to retreat from the Russian front to defend the rear. Perhaps N can support their defense from his home turf or Ruhr if Klick is not hostile. I'm glad to see Klick is considering his options.

Beyond that conundrum, I still have to watch what is coming out of Italy. Dan is right that pablito's options are slim given the current Mediterranean alliance. If he does move to Tyr I will hold in Munich to defend myself. Of course I'd rather see our Venice/Munich/Vienna nonaggression pact take precedence over membership in his larger alliance right now. pabs, where are you trying to go? I can try to position myself in Bur to support an Venetian invasion of Marseilles on turn two.

I can't vouch for the rest of Italy, but I'd rather not overextend myself with my alliance having only tenuous truces with other regions. I have no buffer zone while the rest of Italy does and they're not in a position to support right now. I'd much rather non-aggress-pact with Germany and Austria and SE Europe to allow them to fight the front against Russia/Scan. I don't believe that my taking another centre is key to my survival right now nor to my alliance.

I'd still rather move into Tyr, but right now I could gladly spectate until there's more to be seen. If there's something solid that is agreed upon with the MedAgree, Anschluss and SE Europe, then I could give definitive answers about where I'm going. Right now, I'm undecided, but I have no plans for the Pie because Mist/Mar already claimed it. But I can guarantee I have no plans to attack Vie or Mun because I'd rather you focus efforts on your North as that seems more urgent.

I'd rather you support the low countries so everyone doesn't get overrun than Venice nabbing Munich. It won't help anyone and incur german wrath. so.

Yes - I agree. Mun does not have to worry about Ven.

I hope you'll understand my hesitation at leaving my home center undefended against a neighboring army belonging to a rival super-alliance.

Do I have to be part of a rival super-alliance? The assumption is that it's a rival, but I'd much prefer it be a friendly super-alliance. I don't see exclusivity in the terms right now.

@Zulfy, is it mandatory that the MedAgree attempt to gain a centre by the end of year 1? I'd actually propose that it is only highly optional pending the state of Eastern European affairs. You seem to want to be aggressive early, but I'm not feeling it, yo. I'd rather focus on solidifying Turkey and Greece somehow (with us) since they're further away and tougher to help defend.

[DeathNote]

I don't recommend Germany helping pressure russia. You don't have the luxury to look towards the east.

@snakes what do you plan on doing? Moving north still? Can you maybe hold the Irish sea or move into Wales so we have more presence going south?

@cybele- acr hit the nail on the head. In a game of diplomacy, i can't make promises before the first turn even has happened. As you said, you have three options between helping us, helping the coast, or staying neutral. Really you only have two options as staying neutral just means we win the sea. If that happens, we will be able to win the long game. You siding with us makes things faster and faster is exactly what we need right now. The alliance's farther south are what i worry about. Not the loose collection of costal cities.

Basically your incentive is to help the invading force fighting on one side or help the coast which will eventually be sandwiched. Its funny how strong Turks can be when they work together.

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[OhGodMyLife]

I'll just reiterate, if you plan to move to Tyr it is fine, but I will stand pat in Munich. If you hold in Ven I'll either march east against Russia or slide northwest to help hold the line in Belgium/Holland. I don't want to move out only to turn around and march home again on turn two to prevent the possibility of a year one elimination. No amount of honeyed words can convince me anyone will say no to a free center coming at the expense of someone outside your own core alliance. German wrath being unleashed because I've been stabbed won't be a great consolation to me in the dead thread, to say nothing of the fact that if I fall before the end of the first year and the Scandinavian-centered Great Northern Alliance holds together that German wrath would amount to little more than a whimper.

[DeathNote]

@Std. I don't see why you can't be offered the same deal klick is getting assuming he refuses. Would you be on the fence on joining Britannia?