Mini 511-Match of Champions Mafia! GAME OVER!

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Original Roll String: 1d11

1 11-Sided Dice: (11) = 11

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Vote: Draux

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Someone help me, I'm being ganged up on!

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^^
Constipated

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^^
Hypocrit

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Confirm voting on page 2? Ok, Draux is newbie town-aligned. We may now choose safely from the other 10 suspects.

Agreed.

Unvote

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GO ROCKIES! GO CUBS!

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Wow. I can't believe this. Why all the ZONEACE hate? It's like people see a deviation from the norm and they automatically assume that it's something scum would do. This is retarded. ZONEACE is not scum for wanting to test a theory. The people voting him are either retarded or scum. Pick one.


ZONEACE, why is it that I am like the only person on this entire site who gets you?

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Unvote, Vote: Streeflo

This was going to be a vote for Schis, but Streeflo's hammer attempt was so goddamned obvious. I can't believe it took people this long to figure out what ZONEACE was doing. He had to explain how the mafia should do their kills, that was retarded. I feel your pain, ZONEACE, I was cringing every time I read Nelly's posts.

I'm just a mentally-deficient newb-Townie, remember? Don't take me seriously.

Unvote

This only makes you look dumber.

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Sorry to make you cringe MoS (not), but I agree with Nelly on a lot of things.
1) ZA's "theory" was fairly obvious to anyone who read BM's description of the game in the queue, saw their own role PM, and saw post 4.
2) The way he tried to test it was bad. Asking for a roleclaim in thread with no more justification than some mysterious theory? That's bad enough. But when it's a theory that would have worked better if he just went out and stated it...
3) The assumption that the Mafia will not kill anyone but the doc is bad. Yes we've lost a cop, but what about other pro-town roles? Vig? RB? etc? One would hope BM at least put in plenty of power-roles for a game called "match of the champions".
4) ZA got way too upset when people disagreed with him. "Anyone who is uncomfortable with some mysterious plan regarding a roleclaim must be brain-dead." Right. And all the gratuitous profanity doesn't help either.

I'm not saying Nelly is blameless. He should not have claimed, he should not have gotten caught up in the ad hominem, and he should not have continued talking about what the scum should do. But I feel he is right about ZA's play.

The whole game so far has been a Bad Thing for the town.

I fail to see how any of this makes ZONEACE scum. Nelly accused me of being linked to ZONEACE just because I understand him. Since ZONEACE has returned, this is not the only game I have defended him. Just because I am one of the few people who actually remember him and how he plays does not mean that I am scum or that he and I have something tying us together.

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oh yea. <3 *huggles* ^_^

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I fail to see how any of this makes ZONEACE scum. Nelly accused me of being linked to ZONEACE just because I understand him. Since ZONEACE has returned, this is not the only game I have defended him. Just because I am one of the few people who actually remember him and how he plays does not mean that I am scum or that he and I have something tying us together.

Ok fine I have no problem with you defending him but his logic is flawed and you are blindly defending someone who has caused more harm then good to the town so when we think negativly of him we clump you in there because you are defending him at every turn.

dont lie MoS, you know we're secret lovers, obvi.

Now see this is what I like to see someone who is joking around and not taking this game so seriously. When you bash people in this game it makes for a very unproductive and hostile game which is not needed.

ZONEACE tends to get aggressive when people start railroading him. It's a vicious cycle. You all are guilty as much as he is.

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Perhaps not, but that sort of discussion doesn't really belong in this thread. We're here to find scum, not lecture people on how they play the game.

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Nice bandwagon guys. Why would scum make such a completely retarded play? It brings unnecesary attention to themselves.

Let's look at my "hammer" post:

Hm, as Nelly said, you could have just stated your theory. There was no need for anyone to roleclaim, as they could just claim their flavour.

Unvote; Vote: ZONEACE

It should be blatantly obvious I am only voting him, and not intending to hammer him.

After making that post, I realized I did not know how many vote were on ZONEACE so I went back and checked. The most recent votecount showed ZONEACE at L-2, and the last two votes that I remember were Nelly's and my own. Logically, I assume I had just hammered him by accident.

Realizing I had screwed over the town because we had very little content, I went back to check what discussion went on. Then of course, I see that a lot of people unvoted ZONEACE after he pronounced his "theory", and I did not hammer him after all. So I left my vote there, as I had intended to vote him in the first place.

I just made a mistake with the voting. Now get off my bandwagon you lynch-hungry scumbags! =[

Or you decided to make it blatantly obvious you didn't know how many votes there were so you could vote and then go "oh shit, that was a hammer!" Except that you fucked up and miscounted the votes for realz.

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umm eat me.

MOD: Can we replace this guy? I have tried really hard to deal with him and you have already warned him. He is terrible at mafia and is making this game dumb

*shakes head*

People like this make me really sad.

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umm eat me.

MOD: Can we replace this guy? I have tried really hard to deal with him and you have already warned him. He is terrible at mafia and is making this game dumb

*shakes head*

People like this make me really sad.

what makes me sad is you defending him for no reason.

No, I have plenty of reason to defend him. I seem to be the only one here who has done any research into ZONEACE's playstyle as scum and as town.

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This is a dumb rule.

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I dont know where people get off thinking that just because you do something a lot in the past makes it right. It sure as hell isnt a good argument, in fact its a fallacy of argument called Traditional Appeal.

Just because something is not right doesn't make the person doing it scum. Since you seem to think ZONEACE is a bad player and not very intelligent, I fail to see why you are NOT applying Hanlon's razor and instead calling him scummy for being

consistent

. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

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This is odd because Streetflo is not arguing with any of us and you are threatening to Hammer him if the arguing doesn't stop. Good threat but I would advise against it because if by some chance Street turns up town you will be the number one suspect on Day Two because of the manner you hammered not because of the hammer.

he should be the number 1 suspect anyway, with schis as number 2

Problem is Schismatized is only a suspect in your eyes & MOS eyes as I see it right now. Unless you present some kind of case against him I simply chalk up your hard on for voting him as a person who is upset and not thinking correctly.

Oddly enough, I didn't suspect Schis until just now, when I read his response that I just posted about on this page. Just because I'm arguing with someone doesn't necessarily mean I think they are scum. Don't make those kind of assumptions, please.

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I would suggest that you stay consistent with the precedent that you set and warn Nelly for this post:

As for your strange interest in my personal, while I do have a boyfriend, it's certainly not MoS.

Well luckily I don't have a problem with homosexuality but this does explain why you are being rude in this thread.

This kind of bias is as bad as profanity and should not be encouraged by letting it go.

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And? I still fail to see where you give ANY evidence that ZONEACE scum is *more* likely to do this than he is as town. You are just fitting your argument to the result you want without any logical process.

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And? I still fail to see where you give ANY evidence that ZONEACE scum is *more* likely to do this than he is as town. You are just fitting your argument to the result you want without any logical process.

So you are saying that he would meltdown just as easily if he was a townie called scum?

IF that's what you want to call it, yes. That's exactly what's happening here. ZONEACE is acting as he does when he is

protown

.

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bubka is in this game? WTF. He has 3 posts in 8 pages.

FoS: bubka

I suggest you hammer Streeflo now.

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So you set up your claim in advance...big deal? That doesn't explain your scummy behavior. Setting up a vanilla claim in advance means nothing.

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Nocmen's posts so far:

Random vote: schismatized

because I still cant spell his name right.

Random vote

FoS: Streeflo and schismatizied

for going and voting people while complimenting...thats TOO townie for me.

Joke FoSing

<< Doesn't enjoy these random "insults" of other players?

Messing around with everyone

^^
just called the whole site a hypocrit.

More messing around

Whoa? A Roleclaim already...I don't see it being called for, and I'm not too sure about ZONEACE's idea, but there are other things that concern me and make me uneasy voting at all.

What are these "other things" that concerned you so much that you wouldn't vote ANYONE!?

Well...a lot happens in 12 hours or so...

From what I see...ZONEACE is getting really defensive and angsty.

Everyone claiming makes me debate the sanity and intellegince of the other town members I'm with.

And Streetflo who may have "accidnetally" hammered...but his reponse to it seems like a scum trying to save his ass over the fact he just hit town.

Unvote, Vote: Streetflo

What happened in the last 12 hours to get rid of the "other things" that were making you not want to vote at all? Or did you just see a chance to jump on the Streeflo wagon and were talking shit before?

MoS, I also sort of agree with you with your opinion of ZA. I'm not the one going all crazy because ZA had a theory, I just don't like how he went claim fishing so early...

But I still don't like how much streetflo played off innocent after he "hammered", which is why my vote stays.

First half seems to be fence-sitting: "I buddy up with MoS by agreeing with him, but I'm going to leave myself an out to still attack ZONEACE"

I dont know where people get off thinking that just because you do something a lot in the past makes it right. It sure as hell isnt a good argument, in fact its a fallacy of argument called Traditional Appeal.

That's a very good point, but we're not trying to lynch bad players. We're trying to lynch scum. Being a bad player and being scum are two very different things.

That pretty much sums up my feelings, and also this arguement is really starting to get to the tedious BS part (Mod: Can I say BS?)

Agreeing with Num7.

I have questions above in bold. On top of that, it doesn't seem like Nocmen is providing any opinions of his own.

How do you feel about each individual player alive?

Don't say you agree with reasons other people posted. Type up your analysis in your own words and be thorough.

In addition to his lack of original opinion, he is also active lurking, posting just enough to not get noticed by anyone or get prodded.

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DragonsofSummer: 4 random/joke/irrelevant posts.

Oh yeah! Spelling ftw I'm mighty suspicious of you wanting someone to claim on page 2 btw, and find it more deserving of my vote than a random one so

unvote vote ZONEACE

Slight misrepresentation of what ZONEACE wanted, but an understandable mistake.

Zoneace it has nothing to do with the fact that you have a plan, but your theory can be just as easily tested as the day goes on. It doesn't have to happen on page two. I think it is scummy that you want a claim out of someone on page two, and unless you are willing to divulge more information about this theory you have then I see no reason to support your actions.

Continuation of above misrepresentation.

unvote

I also don't like that people just jumped on trumpeting the reason I was voting. Now that its about to come out, and someone chose to claim instead of being bullied into it, I'm willing to see what Zoneace has to say.

I just didn't like that he wanted someone to claim on page two, and the speed people jumped on behind me makes me feel like scum took my thought process to mean they could get him quick lynched. Anyway I am very curious about your theory Zoneace, I just didn't like how you basically demanded a claim this early.

I agree with the suspicion from this post, but the rest of it is pretty much a carbon copy of the last two posts.

Hey Nelly, you're me!

Thats awkward... lol!

Irrelevant.

I understood too, and believe it or not Nelly his theory has a lot larger of an impact on this game than you give it credit for. For now

vote Streeflo

I agree that his supposed hammer is quite suspect.

For all his worry about people jumping on a wagon trumpeting the reasons he had against ZONEACE, he didn't have a problem doing it himself with the Streeflo wagon.

I don't necessarily know that a roleclaim was necessary to test it (this early in the game at least). But there being no flavor makes it much harder for scum to lie about their roles for one thing (I mean yeah they can claim vanilla, but in my experience people who claim vanilla and look scummy usually get lynched anyway), but it also makes his other thoughts on the game very valid, and though we don't know they are true (note: if they are true there is no need for someone to out themselves to prove it, and please don't) they are logical probabilities given what we know about the game already.

I don't agree with the way he is treating everyone that doesn't agree with him like an idiot, but his theory (which I give about a 90% chance of being completely correct) lets us know exactly what we have to find, right here and right now, and so with that knowledge it makes it easier for us to scum hunt, and harder for scum to avoid being found.

Good theory discussion.

Thats just it though... 3 scum... 8 town oriented roles... we know what we have to find, and since there is no flavor it makes it much harder for those three scum to bs there way out of a lynch when found. Thats the beauty of it, since we know what we are looking for (I doubt there is a vig or an SK btw), it should be easier to find it.

Continued theory.

That would be hilarious imo, but at the same time I would know he was lying becuase Nelly's claim wouldn't have done him any good if it were true.

Nelly where you and I aren't connecting is a fundemental difference in how we look at the game, and so neither of us will agree with the other.

Now lets all move on to finding the scum and winning this game.

Random stuff and end of theory

FoS: Draux

hammering without adding a reason after the claim is pretty scummy imo...

FoS of Draux. Could go either way.

DragonsofSummer, I'd like you to give some more analysis of other players. You have almost exclusively talked about ZONEACE for this entire game, and most of it was analysis of his plan and the way he went about it. You don't seem to be doing much scum-hunting. You said you were suspicious of the people that jumped on the ZONEACE wagon, but you didn't actually comment on any of them or try to look at any other players until Streeflo messed up.

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First three posts: random/joke/irrelevant

Confirm Vote: The Central Scrutinizer

vote: numenorean7

Even in jest, the first person to repeat something I call a town tell is a worthy place to park my vote.

You were either joking (in which case my comment is a joke back) or clearing Draux for insufficient reason (in which case you deserve the vote). Which one?

I don't understand this post. TCS was clearly not joking when he said he saw a town tell from Draux, and his town tell was pretty strong for early D1. I fail to see how he deserved a vote as a result of that post.

cause clearly im gonna believe that without the relevant information regarding what game your role is from and who originally had it.

That might come under the PM-quoting rule.

Rules comment

Zoneace:
Even if you are pro-town, the only thing you have accomplished here is giving the Mafia two easy targets to pick from. The problem isn't that you have a theory. The problem is that your "theory" involves a) outing yourself and b) outing another pro-town role. All I can say is: it'd better be good.

I disagree with this game theory from Num7, but that's already been covered.

simulpost.

I don't think much of your theory. Does it matter if this game has no flavor? Matter enough to claim vanilla and expose a mason?

More theory.

simulpost.

I don't think much of your theory. Does it matter if this game has no flavor? Matter enough to claim vanilla and expose a mason?

ok lets review, I DIDNT EXPOSE THE MASON. i was perfectly happy with pushing schis to claim, nelly outed himself.

You demand that someone claim. Nelly claims mason, saying, "I want to find out what this theory is." Whose fault is it the Mason was outed? Perhaps it wasn't good for Nelly to claim, but I think you are more to blame. You did ask for it, after all.

More theory, pretty much. This post doesn't really contribute anything other than placing blame for stuff that had already happened. He doesn't even suspect ZONEACE.

Sorry to make you cringe MoS (not), but I agree with Nelly on a lot of things.
1) ZA's "theory" was fairly obvious to anyone who read BM's description of the game in the queue, saw their own role PM, and saw post 4.
2) The way he tried to test it was bad. Asking for a roleclaim in thread with no more justification than some mysterious theory? That's bad enough. But when it's a theory that would have worked better if he just went out and stated it...
3) The assumption that the Mafia will not kill anyone but the doc is bad. Yes we've lost a cop, but what about other pro-town roles? Vig? RB? etc? One would hope BM at least put in plenty of power-roles for a game called "match of the champions".
4) ZA got way too upset when people disagreed with him. "Anyone who is uncomfortable with some mysterious plan regarding a roleclaim must be brain-dead." Right. And all the gratuitous profanity doesn't help either.

I'm not saying Nelly is blameless. He should not have claimed, he should not have gotten caught up in the ad hominem, and he should not have continued talking about what the scum should do. But I feel he is right about ZA's play.

The whole game so far has been a Bad Thing for the town.

More theory discussion. Slight scumtell of that last sentence. Nothing much really, but I find scum more likely to say things like that.

First of all, I don't agree that the scum is only interested in getting the doc. I personally think the Mafia would be worried about confirmed pro-town players. But if their only priority was finding the doc, you've still harmed the town. By revealing two non-doctors, you have increased the chances of the scum hitting the doc.

More game theory.

Nelly is very likely telling the truth: Mason is an unproductive claim for scum. And many people seem to think that you are confirmed because of that "death post" after streeflo's "hammer".

Doesn't suspect Nelly. Awkward wording about ZONEACE: "many people seem to think..."??? So do you agree, or did you just say this so that you could later vote ZONEACE and say something to the effect of "but I never said I thought ZONEACE was very protown! I just said that other people thought that". I've used this strategy as scum before.

ZA did not help the town, but this doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum. Which is why I'm not voting him. I agree with MoS: further discussion is unnecessary.

Unless ZA feels the inclination to claim mason buddies with Nelly just to see what happens.

Better clarification about ZONEACE, but pretty much agreeing with what other people have said.

I dont know where people get off thinking that just because you do something a lot in the past makes it right. It sure as hell isnt a good argument, in fact its a fallacy of argument called Traditional Appeal.

That's a very good point, but we're not trying to lynch bad players. We're trying to lynch scum. Being a bad player and being scum are two very different things.

Same stuff as I said about the last post.

could someone hammer stree so we can get this day over with?

Vote: Streeflo

can i go ahead and preemptively vote draux for tomorrow? cause he def needs to be lynched tomorrow.

???

umm, something. I see what he was getting at, but he didn't really say anything about it.

Num7, why are you just sitting back and letting other people participate? Why did your vote sit on TCS for the entirety of Day 1? Why do you suspect, and why? Why did you not think anyone was scum on Day 1?

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MoS: The other things that concerned me was the claiming that occured.

How did the claiming make you uneasy to vote anyone?

If you want to hear my opinion on each player alive:
ZONEACE - Seems to be trying too hard to get his plan to work. Also is getting angry at players. I think hes trying to hard in order to be a savior, it could be scum.

*how* could it be scum?

schismatized: Gets angry at ZA, and accuses MoS of defending him.
Draux: Plays like a little kid, and seems to be playing with the town in order to hide his motifs.

Vote:Draux

Ok, so you suspect Draux for being immature. What about the other 5 players still alive? We have 9 alive, take away those three and yourself, and you still haven't given an opinion on another 5 players.

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bubka needs to start contributing. There isn't much else to say about him.

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could someone hammer stree so we can get this day over with?

Vote: Streeflo

Vote: Draux

Die Scum.

Vote: Mastermind of Sin

random. And probably the only two line post he makes all game.

...

Confirm Vote: Mastermind of Sin

random stuff again.

Unvote, Vote: The Central Scrutinizer

random

Your 'theory' is getting a pro-Town power role to claim so you can Nightkill them right? Die Scum.

Unvote, Vote: ZONEFACE

Makes a lot of assumptions, since ZONEACE didn't ask for any power roles to claim, just for

someone

to claim.

My role requires that I act stupid.

Sure looks like it.

I'm not exactly pro-Town so you don't have to worry about that.

Please explain what you meant by this post.

I kid, I kid.

So you just posted something completely irrelevant for the sake of posting?

I'm just a mentally-deficient newb-Townie, remember? Don't take me seriously.

Unvote

Why can't you be an earnest, observant newb-Townie?

People, stop arguing or I'll hammer Streeflo for no reason.

Why would you do this?

Vote: Streeflo

...And there he does it.

can i go ahead and preemptively vote draux for tomorrow? cause he def needs to be lynched tomorrow.

???

oh it has nothing to do with his hammer.

I thought he was scum before that. but his hammer (with nothing else in the post but the vote) makes me think (especially if stree turns out to be scum like i think he will) its just scum trying to distance themself from other scum by placing the lynching vote.

Oh wow, Scum hammers Scumbuddy Day 1. Great logic you have there, ZoneAce.

You could easily have been scum taking the easy hammer after stating publicly that you'll hammer for no reason.

Draux is either a newbie who doesn't even care about the game and should be banned from future games on mafiascum if he doesn't shape up, or he's scum who is basically telling us all what scummy stuff he's going to do to try and WIFOM us into thinking that no scum would be that dumb.

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4 random/irrelevant

Your 'theory' is getting a pro-Town power role to claim so you can Nightkill them right? Die Scum.

Unvote, Vote: ZONEFACE

you stupid im not even gonna dignify this with an actual defense

im not gonna dignify you with an acutal attack


okay i will i just wanted to say that. whats with all the appeal to emotion?

im not gonna vote zone yet bc im not sure of the vc.

So you're going to vote ZONEACE just for appealing to emotion? I don't see the point of this post. You don't really contribute anything here.

actually there is only 3 on him so i will

vote: zoneace

thats much better than my previous randvote and i just noticed we only have a week.

Still no case, and now you've voted him already. Why do you think he is scum?

umm ok

vote streeflo

leaving him at -1 so no one else vote til he claims.

this looks really shady. you dont want him to get lynched before he claims but you still put him at -1. my vote stands.

also can you please cut all the BS. I posted almost exactly 24 hours ago and because of your moronic break down filled with insults and stupidity, i had to wade through 4 pages full of mostly crap. You need to take a chill pill.

He still votes him because he thinks he is scum. He also clearly states that it's L-1, so no one has an excuse for hammering without knowing the VC. I don't see what the problem is here.

Ok so now he needs to chill. Still no actually case presented against him. You haven't even stated that you agree with anyone else's potential cases.

umm eat me.

MOD: Can we replace this guy? I have tried really hard to deal with him and you have already warned him. He is terrible at mafia and is making this game dumb

Well, you've already heard what I think of this post. It's not really relevant to finding scum, though.

umm eat me.

MOD: Can we replace this guy? I have tried really hard to deal with him and you have already warned him. He is terrible at mafia and is making this game dumb

*shakes head*

People like this make me really sad.

what makes me sad is you defending him for no reason.

In fact, you know my response to this already, too.

I dont know where people get off thinking that just because you do something a lot in the past makes it right. It sure as hell isnt a good argument, in fact its a fallacy of argument called Traditional Appeal.

You're pulling in some game theory, but you're not really explaining how ZONEACE is scum. Even if you think he is abrasive and/or dumb, you haven't shown how that makes him scum.

I think it is much to early for a lynch. Streeflo hasnt even claimed and he could be quick lynched way to early.

That's why we said it was L-1 so that no one accidentally hammered.

umm ZONEACE stop not thinking before you speak. I just dont want to lynch a townie too early when we have six days.

Under the given deadlines (which are way too strict), perhaps you are right, but I don't see you giving any arguments that we should lynch anyone else. You pretty much let Streeflo get lynched.

Just because one person looks scummy doesnt mean you only concentrated on him IMO. We need to look at everyone. Especially you. You have contributed very ittle to the scumhunt. All you have done is name call and cry when anyone calls you scum or doesnt agree with you.

WHAT A HYPOCRITE

I dont know where people get off thinking that just because you do something a lot in the past makes it right. It sure as hell isnt a good argument, in fact its a fallacy of argument called Traditional Appeal.

Just because something is not right doesn't make the person doing it scum. Since you seem to think ZONEACE is a bad player and not very intelligent, I fail to see why you are NOT applying Hanlon's razor and instead calling him scummy for being

consistent

. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

while i believe he is both a bad player and likely not intelligent, that is not my argument against him. He has acted like a five year old this whole time. He provides little to no reason for his voting and has blatantly OMGUS'd. When someone casts any suspicion on him, he gets overly defensive and breaks down to slinging mud. This is why I believe he is scum.

This is the first time you articulated any case against him. I have already explained why I think ZONEACE is town, so I'll leave this alone.

And? I still fail to see where you give ANY evidence that ZONEACE scum is *more* likely to do this than he is as town. You are just fitting your argument to the result you want without any logical process.

So you are saying that he would meltdown just as easily if he was a townie called scum?

I've responded to this before as well. My answer was essentially, yes.

No, if stree is town i say you die.

In reference to ZONEACE, no reason given as to why ZONEACE in particular is scum *if* streeflo is town.

Schis, you can shout all you want about how you think ZONEACE isn't helping the game, and you can say that you don't want a lynch yet, but why haven't you done any active scumhunting? You said that we needed to look at *everyone*, but the only person you've looked at all game is ZONEACE. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

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I'm going to post how ever much I want, when I want to, MoS. Why do you seem to be pushing only me for information, instead of others that are much worse off here such as Draux and DragonsOfSummer? This unwarranted push IMO is making you come off as suspect.

Nocmen, this post is blatant omgus. I am pushing nearly everyone for information,

including Draux and DragonsofSummer

. You just made a blatantly false statement about who I am asking questions, which proves that you aren't even reading the thread. My push against you is more than warranted. You haven't contributed anything all game. Even Draux has as much content as you do.

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I've now looked at everyone except ZONEACE and Nelly, who I spent plenty of time looking at on D1.

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I'm not asking them to do things for me or asking any questions of them? Bullshit.

DragonsofSummer, I'd like you to give some more analysis of other players. You have almost exclusively talked about ZONEACE for this entire game, and most of it was analysis of his plan and the way he went about it. You don't seem to be doing much scum-hunting. You said you were suspicious of the people that jumped on the ZONEACE wagon, but you didn't actually comment on any of them or try to look at any other players until Streeflo messed up.

I'm not exactly pro-Town so you don't have to worry about that.

Please explain what you meant by this post.

I kid, I kid.

So you just posted something completely irrelevant for the sake of posting?

I'm just a mentally-deficient newb-Townie, remember? Don't take me seriously.

Unvote

Why can't you be an earnest, observant newb-Townie?

People, stop arguing or I'll hammer Streeflo for no reason.

Why would you do this?

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vote draux

it'll be schis tomorrow.


Also, i'd like to point out that the "mason" is still alive, like i said he would be.

lolz that's cuz the scum fell for it xD

[Mastermind of Sin]

MoS has just reposted a bunch of stuff that has already been said... Looks like hes trying to hide in plain site.

So now that you've proven that you didn't actually read my comments, why don't you go back and

answer the f*cking questions

...

[Mastermind of Sin]

First off, BM is retarded if he put a Jester in this game. Jesters should never be considered Champions.

Secondly, I think it's pretty obvious at this point that DragonsofSummer and Schis are scum together. DoS's case against Draux was SO much weaker than the one he put up against Schis, and Draux's behavior could have been attributed to newb/idiot/apparently jester behavior, instead of scum. Schis doesn't have that excuse.

Vote: Schismatized

[Mastermind of Sin]

I wasn't buddying up to ZONEACE. I am serious, that is how he plays. I defend him in every game that people wagon him for acting like that. Good Job to my replacement in finishing it up! ^5

I totally forgot who my scumbuddies were. BM can confirm this. After I got replaced, I asked him if my scumbuddies were 2 of schis/nelly/num7. LoL@that. Totally worked, though. I managed to link Schis/DoS, and everything went well. Go team!

[Mastermind of Sin]

EBWOP: By the way, this was my 99th game, and I finally have more wins than I have games where I was town. Whooo!!!!

[Mastermind of Sin]

go for it, DGMavn. Post away. The mafia seemed to all be on the same wavelengths. DoS just repeated some of the reasoning I had.

[Mastermind of Sin]

probably that or run up Schis.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I chalk this loss up to ZA. GJ scum/ZA.

Streeflo's Lynch was my doing, and I would've been somewhat screwed if he had actually turned up Scum. I was even ready to claim "Cop", and change my claim to "Doc" as if by mistake. Then I self-Lynched, which put the Town at LyLo. It's obvious that I lost the game for the Town.

I tried so hard to get people to not lynch you. Quicklynching someone who is acting dumb is never a good idea.

[Mastermind of Sin]

This is what I sent to DGMavn after he replaced me:

[quote]My plan for this game was to continue being one of the people contributing the most. I have forgotten who my scumbuddies are, on purpose. Before Draux was lynched D2, I was going to push schismatized and Nocmen the hardest. Nocmen's reaction to me pushing him was very "suspect". Now, as my last post in the game shows, Schismatized and DragonsofSummer.

My support of ZONEACE had nothing to do with him being scum. His actions in this game are very protown for him. Also, I try to be as natural in my suspicions as possible. I achieve this by forgetting who my scumbuddies are, but you may not want to employ that method. It's preferrable as a method to win the game, but it's up to you I guess.

This is personal opinion, but my suggestion would be that you try not to back up a lot of my strongest opinions. Especially ZONEACE. Even though he's likely protown, people would think you were scum if you supported him like I did. I would vote him at least once. ZONEACE/bubka would be a good wagon, because if we get one more person lynched, we win once we get another nightkill. If we get a protown person lynched today, try to kill someone that looks very suspicious and isn't scum. You don't want to run into doc protection when you're so close to winning.

Good luck, and don't lurk![/qyote]

[Mastermind of Sin]

Who was the godfather? We had a godfather?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Oh.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I was informed that I was sending in the first nightkill because my scumbuddies were lazy hoes and hadn't sent it in, and deadline was approaching.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Yea he totally called them hoes. >.>

[Mastermind of Sin]

My kill choice was clearly better. Dice > you.

[Mastermind of Sin]

If we get a protown person lynched today, try to kill someone that looks very suspicious and isn't scum. You don't want to run into doc protection when you're so close to winning.

>.>

<3 jk ^.^