In post 2011, Yosarian2 wrote: In post 587, MaxwellPuckett wrote:
CoolDog: While I'm not townreading Rylai, I don't think the reasons people have stated for townreading her (if players have) were meta reasons. In fact, the player who brought up the meta (Yosarian I believe) is scumreading her.
Not sure what this was about, don't think I ever said anything about R&L's meta.
Anyway, Max doesn't make a lot of attacks considering the number of posts he's made, but I like the Klingon, the archangel, and the DS votes. Not seeing a lot here that's reading as scum. Can you clarify, Albert?
Also, Albert, what do you think about DiamondSentinel?
If I misremembered, I misremembered. I do it a lot when I'm phoneposting and don't want to check.
In post 2013, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Yosarian I have one slight problem with Max, which I know is a problem I have as town, but others think is scummy. He's far to flippant with his reads. He's gone from scum-reading someone to a hard town-read in such short time. It honestly just looks like appeasement if they seem even the slightest bit threatening.
I don't know how you play, Diamond, but I don't really think of players in terms of sliding scales where scummy actions move them downward and towny actions move them upward. If I'm unsure about some things I put them closer to null, but basically if a player's more recent posts hit me in a different way then I'm more inclined to go with the more recent read, because that's the one that was formed with more information. To use ABR as an example, I didn't even realize what was wrong with his play until I went to check out what the MC rules were, saw that where I'd heard them was from ABR's underlined post, and then it was basically an epiphany of 'what the fuck how is no one noticing this'.
In post 2020, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Alfred Only if I see that his will actually be worth anything. I find Itle more scummy.
@Sensei Mine is the reverse. He went from a pretty town read to a solid scum read on me. Alfred is the one I was referring to. He seemed confident he was scum early, and now is pretty solid town on him.
Reads change as you make posts, Diamond. And who is Alfred? Is that Albert? It can't be him, so who is it?
In post 2019, Albert B. Rampage wrote: In post 2011, Yosarian2 wrote:Anyway, Max doesn't make a lot of attacks considering the number of posts he's made, but I like the Klingon, the archangel, and the DS votes. Not seeing a lot here that's reading as scum. Can you clarify, Albert?
tl;dr
sheeps, gets called for sheeping, does the opposite. his reads are too flexible and convenient
You're going to need to be more specific with this accusation. This is a game with a constantly changing state and you're telling me to stagnate? My reads change every day.
DiamondSentinel: Who am I appeasing? I feel like all I'm doing is arguing.
Look not farther than ABR if you want appeasement, with his post just now. All of that about townreading Titus, trusting DP, like a whole paragraph on it, blah blah blah, it meant nothing and he's just proved that. His words are empty and he'll say whatever he wants to keep the people on his side on his side.
Albert, if you want me to read that differently, explain it.
Diamond: That's a great question, actually. Are you still scumreading ABR, Sentinel? I can't remember.
Errant: Talking with you about this is going to be hard. I kind of explained how my reads work one or two posts before this one, though, so tell me if that doesn't explain it for you. If it doesn't let's just talk later.
Or, were you talking about my read on the DP slot specifically?
Sensei: Who cares about wanting it too much? Most important is that the team is comprised of town. If Diamond is SOLID TOWN as ABR claims, then there shouldn't be a problem. It's only the MC where towniness plus capabilities as leader are equally important.
PEDIT again: Rylai and Lina are a good candidate for the team, yeah.
One man's trash talk is another man's treasure talk.