Mini 500 - Cult Mafia - Game Over!

[theopor_COD]

Mod Edit

Official Vote Count #15

tyhess[4](ac1983fan, Trojan Horse, Flameaxe, Mastermind of Sin)
theopor_COD[3](vollkan, tyhess, Oman)
Mastermind of Sin[2](White, pwayne66)
ac1983fan[2](theopor_COD, curiouskarmadog)
Flameaxe[1](Dr. Blackstrike)



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p.s whilst reading back this bugged me aswell

Theo:A similar post from him would be helpful, but it doesn't seem all too necessary, as everyone's is basically pretty similar.

Does it not strike you as odd if they do?

I'm not really a fan of him evading questions and such. Like I sort of said (indirectly if anything) it's not helping the town at all.

So why evade mine Flameaxe?

[theopor_COD]

Volkan - as far as the "fishing" comment goes. Oman was actively pressing me for something which I felt was a town-tell, fishing for information. Oman's starting to bug me aswell but that's probably just OMGUS. He is actively promoting discussion which is good.

Sorry for the four posts.

[tyhess]

As for the cult issue which everyone has gone ape at me over, Tyhess included, it was the fact Tyhess commented that the cultist knows that only

one

other person wasn't town. When obviously there's two mafioso. Seems pretty stupid if your scum and can't remember how many of em they are, meh maybe I'm reading too much into it, Tyhess's play doesn't exactly deserve a pass does it.

yo theo did you see me write this post????:

That was just an English mistake then.....I meant to say that the mafia knows that all but one person is protown....

I think that explains how you misinterpretted my English mistake as saying that the cultist thinks there was only one other person, compared to what I meant to say was that the mafia knew their was only 1 person they didn't know (the cultist).







And Vollkan, I thought about that propping up to, but I think that if we focused on A, B, and C and then something fishy comes up, and after 4-5 days we don't find anything on A,B,C, then we start to attack 2 + 4.

Your other point was about if we went to 1,2,3 and A+C were scummy. I think that's the only valid case against doing it this way. However, we would do it the same way as above. We would finish "investigating" 1,2,3 and then, if we think A +C are scummy again, we'll go back to them.


And for the thing about not having a consensus top 3. That's why i think we need to all vote for a top 3 and then go after the 3 with the most votes. That goes into what I've been saying....there is no consensus top 3, which results in not going after the same person, which results in people possibly being able to slip out of problems that they have created for themselves.

[White]

White

I dislike white's analysises. Basically you're either newb, scum, or neutral.

I'm not sure if you remember this or not but there are only 2 catagories of people in this game. Town and not town. Not town can be broken up further into Mafia and cult. So for me to say everyone is either town or not town....that's kinda obvious. Also, I made the conclusion that Acfan and Flame were sketchy and MoS was scum through doing my analysis.

There are also quite a few newer players (myself included) in this game...what's wrong with saying that?

I second Vollkan, what do you disagree with in my posts?

[White]

Just that some players seem more intent on maintaining a personal image than assisting the town.

*cough*MoS*cough*

Mod, did Acfan pick up his prod? Is he getting replaced? Can we get a status report on him?

Mod Edit: He posted less than 48 hours ago...

Theo, I suggest (for the sake of the town and yourself) saying something like i'll post my thoughts in 72 hours or something. Right now you're being about as bad as MoS, evading and unhelpful as anything.

Tyhess, i'm going to have to agree with Vollkan here, focusing solely on 3 people for extended periods of time allows the mafia to sneak under the radar for a while, not to mention the mafia can go ahead and just kill one of our candidates while we're pressuring them and we lose all that time and info.

[Trojan Horse]

Here I was, all set to get up in the morning and get to responding to things, and I find out that you folks talked all night. So much to catch up on.

First of all,

unvote

until this thing with acfan is settled. If he gets in here and starts posting, or if he's replaced, then fine. But it could always be that he did pick up the prod, and he told the mod he's lurking on purpose. (Too crazy a thought?) If more days pass and still nothing happens at all, perhaps we should lynch him and be done with it.

Second of all, as I said I would do, I did a little research into the playstyle of our resident veteran, MoS. (Sorry, MoS. That's what happens when you play so many games; you get scrutinized for everything you do.) I looked at other current games he's playing; usually, he found someone scummy to go after very early in those games. Not here. I know, he just started going after tyhess, but it took a while to get to that point.

...

I'm ashamed to say it, but our veteran has just gone up my scum list ever so slightly. No vote yet, but I'll be keeping my eye on MoS.

(OK, MoS. You may attack me back, now. )

[tyhess]

Trojan, I don't think that it would be to smart to vote for ac.....for all intense and purposes we have no info on him, so even if we do kill him, we have nothing to help us go by in the next round.......Plus, if we just kill the lurker, and he's not scum, then its down to 10 people, with 2 scum, 1 cultist, and possibly a cult recruit. Not good for the town. I think that it would be smarter to go with someone that we atleast have a little but of info against to vote for.


And white......i wasn't thinking a long time, I'm not even saying a full day, i'm thinking maybe 4-5 (real)days most, which would give us about a week if we find nothing in the first 3. I'd like to see what others other than you and vollkan think, however........

[White]

Yeah, seems for the most part you've gotta ask some of these people straight up using their name to get their attention, I'm curious about what Pwayne thinks though as he's been contributory.

Honestly I do want Acfan to start contributing and i'm generally against lynching lurkers based on a recent game where that backfired but there's a fine line to walk between lynching lurkers for deadweight and lynching scummy lurkers. I haven't decided which on Acfan is though based on his...lack of posts.

Thanks mod!

[pwayne66]

The top three idea makes sense to me. It gives the town some needed focus. Good luck getting participation though...

[White]

How about some participation from you. Who are you thinking are the most suspicious 3?

[curiouskarmadog]

How about some participation from you. Who are you thinking are the most suspicious 3?

(laugh)..lead through example?

[White]

I like Tyhess's idea to post your top 3 candidates, that way we can focus on who's the most suspect and maybe start pressuring them, perhaps get a day1 crack.

MoS seems scummiest to me, evasiveness and complete uselessness to town
Tyhess is second, bandwagons galore and weak arguments, no original thoughts either except this one
Acfan is third, shameless lurking and of the few posts he's made i've not agreed with any(or most) of them

QFT, Reading FTW.

[curiouskarmadog]

I like Tyhess's idea to post your top 3 candidates, that way we can focus on who's the most suspect and maybe start pressuring them, perhaps get a day1 crack.

MoS seems scummiest to me, evasiveness and complete uselessness to town
Tyhess is second, bandwagons galore and weak arguments, no original thoughts either except this one
Acfan is third, shameless lurking and of the few posts he's made i've not agreed with any(or most) of them

QFT, Reading FTW.

wasnt talking about you(saw that you had posted one)...just thought it was funny

[White]

Oh gotcha. Hey, have you posted how you feel about it?

[pwayne66]

My most suspicious would be MoS, Vollkan and tyhess.

The three I think we would benefit the most from focusing on is MoS, theo and tyhess.

Volk rings wrong but I think I am alone in thinking so. I also don't think there is anything to build a case on.

AC needs to be replaced, grilling him won't work.

Theo b/c he is the one that I have the hardest time reading at this point.

MoS may or may not be scum. Needs pressure to begin taking this game as seriously as I believe him capable of.

tyhess- his play has improved. his earlier ambiguity still deserves some scrutiny.

in short: MoS, theo and tyhess.

[curiouskarmadog]

Oh gotcha. Hey, have you posted how you feel about it?

have no problem with it. 2-3 pages back i posted my thoughts on everyone..not much has changed since then....do I need to clarify my top three?

[curiouskarmadog]

AC needs to be replaced, grilling him won't work.

I am at a loss here, I too think he should be replaced (but again he posted a couple days ago)...how long should he be able to lie low? I generally do not agree with lynch the lurkers, but in this game where the cult can lie low and multiply everyone needs to be active and posting, so I dont think ignore the lurkers will work either.

AC post some content or ask for a replacement....I want to hear your views on everyone in the game (or if time is not permitting, your top three scum)

if he does either I will remove my vote

[theopor_COD]

White - No. I ain't being forced into doing something. Deal with it. I'll post if and when I want too, I'd disagree that I'm being particularly unhelpful - fact is I think everyone's lists are a pile of shit. I've also looked at MoS's post and have no intention of joining his wagon . . . go read a whole host of MoS's games he's scum quite a lot, infact I think I must have played about 4 games with him and he's always scum . . . at this stage I don't find him to be overly scummy.

ac1983 needs to answer the question. I'm not letting him off the hook.

Tyhess no problems as I say your original post implied "cult" knew they was only one remaining non pro-town.

[theopor_COD]

I don't like Flameaxe's or Blackstrike's lack of content lately either.

[curiouskarmadog]

my list is horribly offended

[theopor_COD]

Ha, look I didn't mean to go overboard but I just don't feel like commenting with detail on 11 players.

It will be something like

Scummy, newbish, looks town, lurker scum die scum, neutral.

I'd much rather we got some thoughts from Blackstrike, Flameaxe and ac1983 because all three are definately not in my looks town category at the moment.

[White]

Well, how about who you think we would benefit most from focusing on?

AC post some content or ask for a replacement

QFT

[pwayne66]

As is mine...

[pwayne66]

damn it. that made no sense at all...

[White]

Scummy, newbish, looks town, lurker scum die scum, neutral.

I'd much rather we got some thoughts from Blackstrike, Flameaxe and ac1983 because all three are definately not in my looks town category at the moment.

Better than nothing.

I've found that focusing really heavily on lurkers slows down the game a real lot. Like a real real lot...they're lurkers. Expanded interests work wonders, not all scum and culties will lay low. I wouldn't be surprised if Vollkan turned up cultist.