On top of that, I'm still waiting for anyone to show that my response was overreacting at all. As far as I recall, my response at the time was fairly logically based and non-emotional, which is not something that is paired with overreactive and defensive. However, I will state that a response such as that is not the norm for me, but I don't really have a reason for why I acted differently. Normally, my response *would* be one of incredulity, but I guess I decided to see if Oman could back up his accusations or something.
I'm not going to argue that you are too defensive. i think that you were, but I also think this is a strawman. The meat of my argument is evasiveness and a refusal to help the town.
Post 210 Oman:
MoS wrote:
He's smart enough to not mess up this early as town,
WIFOM. What do you think of his strange work on Blackstrike?
MoS never answers this question.
so, post 219 Oman:
The follow up post ot that hardly has me thinking that either MoS has a developed plan on theo and Flame or that theo and flame really are genuine.
Unvote Vote MoS This is rediculous.
The content of this post doesn't seem to make alot of sense, but I agree with it in spirit.
Vollkan asks Oman to explain and he posts 222
After MoS' one post saying "Theo good, Flameaxe good" I asked him for more and he said...
and then
e completly brushes over the fact that flameaxe came under the microscope not for vote hopping, but for his poor case on Blackstrike.
His analysis of theo is in my mind incorrect, as even scum can have content, and that doesn't mean they're pro-town.
Basically his reluctance to jump on either of the major wagons for reasons I don't like make me think he's scummy.
At which point both his "developed plan" comment and his bandwagon comment become strawmen for a beautifully executed evasion of the original question.
In post 225, Oman answers MoS' question. In post 226 Vollkan helps MoS avoid answering the question by pressing Oman on his "developed stance" comment.
In Post 227 Vollkan:
MoS has ignored the actual reasons for the suspicions, but why does that make him scummy?
Also, MoS, what do you think of the actual cases against Theo and Flame?
A simultaneous defence of MoS' refusal to answer the question while restating the origninal question.
In post 228, MoS, still to answer the original question, persists on asking even more questions that are pure over reactions of Oman's comment and vote.
MoS replies in 229:
I didn't read any cases on them. I wasn't going to be influenced in my opinions when asked to say what I think of them, because it's all too easy to just paraphrase the case and make yourself look good without really trying to say what you think. I only read their posts in isolation before saying how I felt about them.
An odd responce. The fact that somebody would not read every post in the thread seems unhelpful. How is MoS supposed to understand why anybody is voting for anybody else if he doesn't read their reasons? This deliberate handicap seems to let MoS off the hook though as Vollkan is quick to respond in 232
Fair enough; this is a very reasonable thing to do.
Reasonable? How is not reading other peoples arguments reasonable?
In post 228, MoS, still to answer the original question, persists on asking even more questions that are pure over reactions of Oman's comment and vote.
In post 230, Oman corrects MoS' charcterization of his accusations:
MoS wrote:
So, your theory is that I'm scum and They're possibly scum
scumMY! I don't know you're scum. My theory is that you are connected to one if not both in some way. I don't think there is three scum in this game (rules post), but I believe there is a connection or if they're town., you're trying to form one (buddying up).
In post 233 Oman states:
My biggest problem was not that he didn't see them as scummy, but that he gave crap reasons for it, AND ignored half the case, Vollkan.
followed a very ironic:
Apparently I'm not the only one ignoring things...^^
from MoS, considering that Oman has played along and answered all the questions asked of him and you still won't answer his one question!
MoS continues to ask and have answered questions in 236 & 238.
In post 243, I post:
Talk about brains hurting, I'm not even sure I follow what is going on anymore
It seems that:
1) MoS posts defending FlameAxe and Theo
2) Oman calls him out for it
3) MoS and Vollkan beat the hell out of him over semantical issues.
4) Lost in the dust is any answers from MoS on how he reconciles Flameaxes' actions against the Doc. Lost is his answers about how posting content clears Theo.
5) MoS doesn't bother reading other's viewpoints as they might influence him
6) This is AOK with Volkan.
Am I missing something?
to which MoS replies:
I'm not arguing semantics. You missed that.
MoS seems unconcerned about #4 and not answering questions.
In post 248 MoS gives a heartfelt post about how Oman thinks he is scum (hasn't Oman corrected this once already) and wants him dead, therefore his reaction (and evasion?) was justified.
In post 251, I ask
As an IC, do you think the town ought to take to accepting "x feels protown" , "I think x is geniune" and "scum wouldn't do x" as reasonable statements that should be accepted without question?
Now, I don't want to give away the ending here but, I haven't got an answer for that either...
and now, MoS is being oppositional defiant by refusing to post his suspicions. Am I alone in not being surprised?
Confirm Vote:MoS
I'll keep an eye out for more definitive evidence, but I'm struggling at this point.
