Mini 427 - Clue Mafia 3 - Game Over - Is this what happened?

[al_kohaulec]

Thanks Skruffs, I need to update that in my notes

I would say claims first, then you declare your result. Give scum a little bit less chance to... do something, I don't know what . But I think it'll be better to let others claim first.

DoS, I'd be interested in seeing who you want to claim first.

[al_kohaulec]

EBWOP, and from there, I guess he can choose the next person, and then the last person can go.

[Ectomancer]

Thanks Skruffs, I need to update that in my notes

I would say claims first, then you declare your result. Give scum a little bit less chance to... do something, I don't know what . But I think it'll be better to let others claim first.

DoS, I'd be interested in seeing who you want to claim first.

/agree

[DragonsofSummer]

I'd like Skruffs to claim first, simply because we have heard the least from his character, and I am most suspicious of him right now just because of the fact that Ancalagon wasn't around, at all basically, and so I haven't had a chance to really get a read on the towniness of him (who is now Skruffs).

[Skruffs]

I agree with ecto that we should try to discover who else may be scum before killing him today, and if we find someone else who is likely scum decide which is potentially worse for the town.

Would killing one scum over another be worse? i haven't seen any indication of such.

I am happy to claim. Do you want flavor, name, role, night actions, or what?

[al_kohaulec]

You might as well claim flavor and name, though that makes hardly any influence at all. But mostly claim role. After you claim your role we can decide whether we want actions or if we want to wait.

[DragonsofSummer]

I'm just saying that the possibility of a Goon is still out there, and unlike HC I am not ready to discount it completely, and so if we find another potential scum try to decide whether it is another SK or a goon.

[Skruffs]

All right.
I have no qualms about claiming, but before I do, allow me to present the following:

All Sleuthed Out (6/12):

The Central Scrutinizer, Colonel Mustard, SK, lynched Day 1

Jack, Mr. Green, Vig, killed Night 1

BillyTwilight, Mrs. Peacock, SK, killed Night 1

MrBuddyLee, Wadsworth, Godfather, lynched Day 2

Haschel Cedricson (replacing Cogito Ergo Sum), Mrs. White, SK, lynched Day 3

Battle Mage, The Motorist, Tracker, killed Night 3

In the third version of the movie, five of the assembled 'guests' - Scarlet, White, Peacock, Mustard, and Plum, were serial killers, while Wadsworth was the master mind behind it all - potentnially with Yvette. Mr. Green was a planted agent from the FBI with a gun, and wound up shooting the butler at the end.

I see a LOT of similarities here. Inasmuch, I am wary about claiming to be Anything. If there are still 2 sks and, potentially, a goon left, that means it is 2-1-3, and scum win unless they kill off one of each other.
If that theory holds true, then plum and scarlet are the remaining SKs, and if there is a mafia, it's yvette.
Now, again, I have no problem with claiming, but with that potential situation out there, who still wants me to?

[Skruffs]

I haven't read anything about this game, so if there is information I should know about, let me know before you start errantly voting me.

[al_kohaulec]

I don't see why you should have any fear of claiming if you're town, but that aside, I remember reading somewhere that the games, though there are three, don't directly relate to the movies. The similarities are of some interest though, but I'll try to find where that was said. Other than that, it does sound like you're trying to avoid claiming.

[chaotic_diablo]

skruffs,
al_ko is Mrs/Mr/whatever Plum and our supposed watcher.
Night 1 Targetted MBL and found out that he targetted Jack
Night 2 Got Roleblocked
Night 3 No mention of result

BM was Tracker
Night 1 Tracked al_ko and found out that al_ko followed MBL
Night 2 Tracked Ecto and found out Ecto targetted BM

Ectomancer is a SK, none of his targets have died. He is also Miss Scarlet
Night 1 Claimed to have targetted CD
Night 2 Targetted BM
Night 3 unknown

DOS is a supposed cop
Night 1 Roleblocked or something
Night 2 Guilty on HC
Night 3 Innocent on someone

HC is a SK. Was caught with a guilty investigation and a crappy false claim.
Night 1 Implied to have targetted Billy
Night 2 Claimed to have targetted BM

Skruffs, what is your interpretation?

[dahen]

I'm here and waiting to claim as soon as Skruffs has played his part.

[Skruffs]

My interpretation is that only one SK can kill per night, which explains why there can be so many of them and why their kills aren't going through.

curious about al_ko - if he is a watcher, and targetted MBL, then he would know the names of everyone who targetted MBL, not the other way around. Otherwise he'd be a tracker. unless this is the watcher role that watches a house and sees who comes and leaves?

I am not averse to claiming. I'm Mr Boddy. I *Can* prove my role, but I am going to wait until everyone else has claimed to do so.

Ms Scarlet fits in with my theory, which means that alko(plum) is potentially also lying. I am one of the 'victims' (wadsworth's real butler) in the third version, and not the blackmailer, which is why i am thinking that, loosely based or not, my theory holds at least some merit. perhaps the godfather could 'pick' which SK could perform the kill each night, if there is no real mafia. Wadsworth WAS the mastermind in the third scenario, which fits the godfather title.


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i looked back and got this:

I am Mr. Plum, a watcher, and I targetted Jack last night, and I got that MBL targetted him.

So he's a real watcher. i appreciate the info but make sure to get it right!

[DragonsofSummer]

Okay, so you are claiming that you have no abilities then Skruffs?

[chaotic_diablo]

i looked back and got this:

I am Mr. Plum, a watcher, and I targetted Jack last night, and I got that MBL targetted him.

So he's a real watcher. i appreciate the info but make sure to get it right!

My mistake. Organizing info is confusing.

There's one hole in your statement. The only confirmed piece information in your statement we have is that al_ko targetted Jack. Whether he really has a watcher ability or if MBL targetted Jack is still in question.

[al_kohaulec]

Ya, looks like Skruffs caught c_d's error before I got here. That's the only mistake I saw there is that BM targetted me and saw that I targetted Jack. And I targetted Jack and saw that MBL targetted Jack.

[dahen]

Mrs. White killed Yvette, Colonel Mustard killed the motorist, Professor Plum killed Mr. Boddy, Miss Scarlet killed the cop, and Mrs. Peacock killed the cook. By process of elimination the guests accuse Mr. Green of killing the singing telegram girl, although Mr. Green claims he is innocent. Wadsworth pulls the revolver from his coat, revealing that it was he who shot the girl, and holds the guests at gunpoint. He then reveals the shocking secret that he is, in fact, the real Mr. Boddy; the "Mr. Boddy" Plum killed was actually his butler, set up to take the fall.

Now, clause by clause:

Mrs. White killed Yvette

HC (Mrs White) was a SK, but didn't kill Yvette

Colonel Mustard killed the motorist

The Central Scrutinizer (Col Mus) was a SK and didn't kill anybody.

Professor Plum killed Mr. Boddy

Alko has claimed Plum but also watcher.

Miss Scarlet killed the cop

Ectomancer has claimed to be Miss Scarlet and SK, targetting Chaotic Diablo and BM (Motorist) but none dead.

Mrs. Peacock killed the cook

BillyTwilight (Mrs PC) was a SK. Could have killed Jack (Mr. Green)

Mr. Green claims he is innocent

Well, he was our Vig (Jack).

Wadsworth pulls the revolver from his coat, revealing that it was he who shot the girl

MrBuddyLee (Wadsworth) was Godfather.

claim

I am Yvette. I have kept some people busy during the nights.
N1: DragonsOfSummers
N2: Haschel Cedricson replacing CES
N3: I will keep this information. I have targetted someone who is alive. That person should know.

You would be better off finding the main group against the town. It's already been proven that you arent up against an entire cluster of SK's because we managed to get a Godfather.

I don't think anything is proven because of that. Why do you say it as if that's confirmed?

We've already lost, my friend. At best we get to play spoiler.
THERE IS NO MAFIA GOON. Just you, me, another SK, and the town.

I'm more inclined to believe this, meaning remaining SK:s would be Ecto and probably Alko.

[dahen]

I was roleblocked last night

That's of course possible, but it wasn't by me. We should also remember that we didn't have a kill that night, even though I think that's most likely to be because I blocked HC that night.

[DragonsofSummer]

C_D that leaves your claim, but I would like you to wait until Skruffs answers my question about him having abilities.

[Skruffs]

I do have an ability, DOS.

[al_kohaulec]

So dahen, are you saying you're a roleblocker?

[al_kohaulec]

Oh, nevermind. I was thinking DoS did get an investigation N1. Ignore that last question.

[al_kohaulec]

I am not averse to claiming. I'm Mr Boddy. I *Can* prove my role, but I am going to wait until everyone else has claimed to do so.

I haven't been reading too closely lately, so I only just now noticed your claim. How can you be Boddy if he dies at the very beginning before anything starts?

[DragonsofSummer]

I am not averse to claiming. I'm Mr Boddy. I *Can* prove my role, but I am going to wait until everyone else has claimed to do so.

I haven't been reading too closely lately, so I only just now noticed your claim. How can you be Boddy if he dies at the very beginning before anything starts?

He doesn't actually die then though. He is just unconscious, and later gets killed. Also notice that in this clue game he isn't dead at the beginning like he is in one of the other ones.

[chaotic_diablo]

Alright, my turn I guess. I'm the cook, or rather the doc.