Open 38 - Jester Mafia 12p (Game Over!) - before 484
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Numenorean7 Goon
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d3sisted Mafia Scum
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Numenorean7 Goon
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This looks like it will be a fun game. It will be really hard to get anyone lynched...
Benhalkum/kerplunk: Was ben obvscum, insane townie, or clever Jester? I tend to favor the "insane townie" position, because I get the impression that ben was just playing like he always plays. Now he's been replaced by kerplunk, we'll be able to get a better read. Fairly neutral so far.
d3sisted: He has been flip-flopping all over the place. From what I've seen, this is his playstyle. However, I really don't like his vote of ryan. This wagon has no evidence other than defensiveness, and he put the fourth vote on. Not liking that at all.
distad: Fairly pro-town player as far as I can tell. Makes several good points, brings up scummy behavior.
JDodge: More content please.FoSfor jumping on ryan's wagon.
Jex: Getting a pro-town read from her. Not incredibly prolific, but she posts a fair amount of reasonable content.
JimmyR: I see nothing in the rolefishing accusation against Jimmy other than ryan being his usual hyper-critical self. One thing that struck me is Jimmy R's comment
This is reminiscent of the "replacements can't be Mafia" argument I've seen a number of times. I just wanted to point out that this is not true. For instance, some players might be frightened by being the Jester. They might not want to face the challenges associated with the role, and thus ask for a replacement, or not show up in the first place.I'd be very surprised if any of the people who have replaced in are Jester as it's a pretty rare oppurtunity to play that role in a game like this and I wouldn't expect anyone having that to drop out without a very good reason.
Pooky: I like Pooky's analysis of how to play in a Jester game. I have read it a couple times and I can't find any holes. I seriously doubt he is the Jester. However, I really don't like his blatant OMGUS/bandwagon vote of ryan. I am at a loss to explain why such an experienced player would do that, whatever his alignment. IGMEOY
ryan: ryan seems to be very aggressive, which given my past experiences with him counts as a point in his favor. He goes a little far with the JimmyR rolefishing accusation and flies off the handle when ssf points out the importance of context and other people pressure him. This does look a bit suspicious, but I'm much more concerned with the ryan wagon than with ryan himself at the moment.
SSF: I like his comment
and I agree with his stance on Jimmy, but he hasn't posted much content. Difficult to get a read.somestrangeflea wrote:The thing about Mafia, is that if you're going to tell us that you have some big secret master plan that you aren't going to tell us, one of two things has to happen:- It better be an incredibly good plan which gives results quickly.
- You're going to have to get used to a large number of people doubting your motives as a Townie
In conclusion:
Vote: d3sisted
For putting the fourth vote on the fairly baseless ryan wagon without evidence or explanation.Political Correctness offends me.-
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Jex Goon
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d3sisted Mafia Scum
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Numen, you act like it only takes 4 to lynch. We need 7. That's another 3 to jump on the wagon before we get a lynch.
The way you go through that entire thought process before voting me, when clearly there are other people who you deem are scummier than I am. What I'd like to know is, why aren't you voting them?This. Is. [color=red][b]SPARTA![/b][/color]
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Jex Goon
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After reading over the past couple of pages, Jdodge and Pooky make me a little uneasy. It's been pointed out numerous times, but I don't like their lack of content and their willingness to jump on a bandwagon.
Ryan still makes me uneasy, but I don't feel he's at the top of my list right now, and I really don't like the escalation of the Ryan wagon. It happened way too quickly. The only other game I've played with Ryan he acted similarly to how he is now and he turned out to be scum. It may just be that he plays that way no matter the alliance, but I don't really know.
As for d3sisted: your logic doesn't make much sense to me. My first read of you puts you in a very bad light, but I'd like to go back and look more into your posts before I put a vote. Especially since you seem to be jumping into the limelight lately with your bandwagoning and such.
I'll do a reread of the game tomorrow, but for now it's bedtime."Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that don't have the brains enough to be honest." ~ Benjamin Franklin-
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Jex Goon
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I know this post wasn't directed at me, but here's my thoughts on it.d3sisted wrote:Numen, you act like it only takes 4 to lynch. We need 7. That's another 3 to jump on the wagon before we get a lynch.
The way you go through that entire thought process before voting me, when clearly there are other people who you deem are scummier than I am. What I'd like to know is, why aren't you voting them?
The thing I don't like about you jumping on the wagon isn't that you are the 4th vote. 4 votes is fine, it puts pressure on the person. However, you voted for me for attacking ryan, then after two people (who have posted very little content) voted ryan as well, you were more than happy to jump on. Seems a little sketch to me."Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that don't have the brains enough to be honest." ~ Benjamin Franklin-
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d3sisted Mafia Scum
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You are misinterpreting my actions. At first I agreed with ryan, and while you were attacking ryan I found you scummy, so I voted you. But then I looked back at ryan's posts and they emited generous amounts of scum vibes, so I'm not focusing my attention on him.
Furthermore, I am not bandwagoning. I would've voted ryan regardless of JDodge and Pooky. Now, how is that a sketch?This. Is. [color=red][b]SPARTA![/b][/color]
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ryan Mafia Scum
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You are the one being very defensive about a FoS, why is that? Would you rather me drop a vote? You basically are reusing somebody elses theories and than saying, "yeah I re-read you are scum" how is that pro town? Content, post references, reasons, those I can buy and at least have something to defend, right now you are giving me nothing to defend, so don't drop a OMGUS type deflection, you haven't given me anything to defend so what should I talk about?d3sisted wrote:I didn't base my vote entirely on what JDodge thinks, I also reread the thread and I think you're the scummiest at this point.
Your posts reek strongly of OMGUS right now, and I think the only reason that you FoS instead of Vote is that you're afraid I will call you on it.
This makes me even more certain that you are scum. My vote is permanent.[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]-
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ryan, I have never encountered such a dedicated poster as you. (That's a compliment.) Although normally I would find that highly suspicious, but as Jex stated that this is your regular playing style: I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
d3sisted gets scummier with every post. I'd be happy to lynch him.
I will be away this weekend. On monday I will post again.Has your mafiagame lasted for only a few days or maybe it dragged on and on and on? Check the [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Records]Records page[/url] on the wiki to see if it is a record!-
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Blue Zebra Goon
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ryan Mafia Scum
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You can metagame me all you want, (or check my profile) when I'm in a game I contribute quite a bit.Kerplunk wrote:ryan, I have never encountered such a dedicated poster as you. (That's a compliment.) Although normally I would find that highly suspicious, but as Jex stated that this is your regular playing style: I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
d3sisted gets scummier with every post. I'd be happy to lynch him.
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Numenorean7 Goon
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I found your vote really scummy and I voted you for it. Who do you think I "clearly deem scummier than you"?d3sisted wrote:Numen, you act like it only takes 4 to lynch. We need 7. That's another 3 to jump on the wagon before we get a lynch.
The way you go through that entire thought process before voting me, when clearly there are other people who you deem are scummier than I am. What I'd like to know is, why aren't you voting them?
So you say.d3sisted wrote:Furthermore, I am not bandwagoning. I would've voted ryan regardless of JDodge and Pooky.
ryan is always prolific. When he's town, his playstyle is very helpful to the town, as long as it doesn't get him lynched.Kerplunk wrote:ryan, I have never encountered such a dedicated poster as you. (That's a compliment.)Political Correctness offends me.-
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d3sisted Mafia Scum
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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ryan Mafia Scum
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Kind of like people who disregard questions asked to them?d3sisted wrote:
Wow. Everyone is so eager to get on my case that you all just let this slide by the radars?Kerplunk wrote:d3sisted gets scummier with every post. I'd be happy to lynch him.[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]-
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@Numen7: ryan comes to mind.
@ryan: I am not at all worried about getting an FoS. As for your question, how about your vote on Pooky? You single out one of the lurkers, and don't give any reason other than "a pressure vote". He may be lurking or inactive, but thatdoes notnecessarily mean he's scum at all.This. Is. [color=red][b]SPARTA![/b][/color]
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d3sisted Mafia Scum
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Before I finish my read, I need to
Vote: d3sisted
He's the scummiest player I see.
He's eager to vote, opportunistically, and back off when seen.
His reasoning for most of his votes is,
"Yeah! I do see what so-and-so is saying! What'shisfaceisscum!"
Which I don't like."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Basic thoughts on players, these are simply basics, what I get from them right now. What aura they emit. How I feel about them.
ryan:
Takes everything too seriously.
Pooky:
As usual, he doesn't post much, and doesn't post much content when he does. He's great as scum and town. And I can never tell which. But after being in the face-to-face Jester mafia with him and Dirge and everyperson, I'm going to call him probably town.
d3sisted:
Trigger-happy, not helpful to the town, defensive. Probably scum.
Jex:
Pretty posts. Makes sense, a bit swayed by others' posts.
Kerplunk:
I had no problem with benhaulkum's playstyle, and Kerplunk emits good vibes for now.
Numenorean:
Can't remember who he replaced.
One does not simplywalkinto Mordor!
SSF:
I get good vibes from him, as a plus, he made me laugh.
JDodge:
Not here.
Distad:
I will get his name confused with d3sisted.
His posts make sense to me, and I would be reluctant to lynch him for anything he has done as of yet.
Jimmy R:
Nothing of note. Rightfully defensive toward ryan.
Nightfall:
Who?"There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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d3sisted Mafia Scum
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Wow. You are really close-minded.Atticus wrote:Before I finish my read, I need to
Vote: d3sisted
He's the scummiest player I see.
He's eager to vote, opportunistically, and back off when seen.
His reasoning for most of his votes is,
"Yeah! I do see what so-and-so is saying! What'shisfaceisscum!"
Which I don't like.
I am eager to vote and opportunistic because that is just my play style. I see someone scummy, and I'll vote for them. And I didn't just back off because I was "seen", I unvoted because ryan seemed a lot more town than he did before. That also doesn't mean that I think he's completely, town, there's still a chance that he might be scum.This. Is. [color=red][b]SPARTA![/b][/color]
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PookyTheMagicalBear Pooky got your back
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unvote
vote Atticus
welcome!Show"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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Numenorean7 Goon
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I do not consider ryan particularly scummy:d3sisted wrote:@Numen7: ryan comes to mind.
I never seriously considered joining the ryan wagon. IMO, he deserves one or two votes, not 4 and definitely not 5.Numenorean7 wrote:ryan seems to be very aggressive, which given my past experiences with him counts as a point in his favor. He goes a little far with the JimmyR rolefishing accusation and flies off the handle when ssf points out the importance of context and other people pressure him. This does looka bit suspicious, but I'mmuch more concerned with the ryan wagon than with ryan himself at the moment.
And just a tip: unvoting because your vote has been attacked is not the best way to get out of the situation.
I replaced schismatized: the green elephant.Atticus wrote:Numenorean:
Can't remember who he replaced.
One does not simplywalkinto Mordor!
And the Last Alliancemarchesinto Mordor. Does that count?
Prod: NightfallPolitical Correctness offends me.-
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