Panzerjager wrote:Umm, I'm gonna stay immpartial. I think it is as possible that he lied as it is that he was blocked or there was a doccage. Actually, I'm no longer impartial. Vote:Deathsauce. AlSleet claims a kill. Death Sauce goes for the attack and lynch of Alsleet, he could be mafia role blocker. Roleblocker is very common for mafia.
This is the only real case you've ever given against DS. It's a valid point, but IMO worthy of a FoS or perhaps a vote, certainly not a lynch. Yet you have stayed with it and continued pushing a DS lynch, based purely on this incident as far as I can tell.
Panzerjager wrote:Oh, and Hi Aimee. Much Love<3
Panzerjager wrote:First Of all, I was the only one who made any significant case on Schism. So give it up if your trying to get me lynched for hammering schism aka Anal Sex.
Anyway, Scum Roleblockers are very common in normal games.
I'd agree with this at least. You are not to blame for schism's death.
Panzerjager wrote:Cause he is SK.
Asserting that Al is a SK. Why? You said that 9 out of 10 vig claims turn out SK. Why do you say that? I doubt you've done a statistical study.
Panzerjager wrote:See, The fact that you're alive to me makes me lean more towards SK. Because both me and you said this guy is SK very loudly and quite often. Qman said it once and with subtlty. Most wouldn't have even picked up on Qman's death, people would have figured it out if you or I died. SK can target those suspicious of him but they have to be the ones qith quiet suspicions not flamboyantly suspicious.
Here's an argument for an Al SK, but not a very strong one. Conclusions based on the night-kill choice are WIFOM, and an SK would know that.
Panzerjager wrote:"The simplest explanation is the most likely one" should be re-written to "The simpliest and most logical explanation is the most likely one" The scum are probably doing what us townies did, leaving him in as a wrecking ball regardless of his alignment. Town is hoping he destroys Scum, Scum is hoping he decimates Town. Because look, Alsleet and the town kill 2-4 scum, town kills Alsleet. Scum and Alsleet get it to 1-3 people non scum left, they kill Alsleet and win. Right now neither side has anyreason to kill Alsleet if he is SK. If he is Vig then us Town really want him alive, and Scum can get around him until Night 3.
I agree. We should keep around AlSleet, because the advantages of a vig outweigh the disadvantages of having a SK.
Panzerjager wrote:OTM, I am the ONLY one WITH a reason to lynch schism. DID you miss the entire first 8 pages of this game or what dude? You gotta be kidding me if you think me hammering schis was scummy. I post a PBPA and a Point by Point analysis, along with being one of the two people attacking him most of day 1. That burden almost exclusivly fell on Kscope and I. Then ecto popped in started some shit. Yes i think AlSleet is SK but as town i figured we had an agreement that we wanted him to stay alive by the off chance he is vig so he can in fact be a weapon. Say we lynch mafia today and Al Sleet hits scum tonight, that could be anywhere from 1/2 to all the mafia(2-4 member in the mafia i'm guessing). So he has big upside regardless of his alignment.
Panzerjager wrote:EBWOP: So with Al being pretty much a weapon I thought we had decided schism was the lynch, so I lynched him based on the consensus and my points I already had made against him.
Panzerjager wrote:..Why should he give a target? He can pick his own way. Why do you want him to pre pick his target? So you can direct him if you don't like his pick? FoS:OTM
Schism already made it clear he was done with this game., so I really don't have much to say other then Good Riddance.
Panzerjager wrote:FoS: Blight You make the point 3-4 points in the main post against why AlSleet is Alive then make an additional post staying another strong point against him. But ou voted ectomancer for what I thought is a debate over theory then actual scumminess. I'm with you, I think he is a detriment to the town because he can cut through us like a knife through butter, but the rest have decided to be optimistic, because he can really really hurt the scum. So it can go both ways, but you make it so clear that you want Al dead yet you vote ecto? To me that doesn't make sense, it seems that you are waiting for a wagon to really pick up on him then you jump and point to these post. I just don't like it at all.
Here you FoS Blight for some of the same things I mentioned, but you later believe KScope's hinting very readily.
Panzerjager wrote:Yesterday wasn't really a quick hammer. I thought we were decided, -1L two hours or so from deadline. I simply put in my two cents.
Panzerjager wrote:Is my vote on deathsauce?
Pointless post
Panzerjager wrote:Unvote: Vote:Death Sauce. My vote should be on this guy.
Why? Still because of his vote at the beginning of the day?
Panzerjager wrote:Eh, I'll have to mull around on this idea?
Panzerjager wrote:I'm confused. Why haven't we lynched Death Sauce?
Again, pushing DS lynch without providing any evidence.
Panzerjager wrote:IMO, I think K-Scope gave too much away already. And if K-scope is right about you, it doesn't mean anything other then he's cop. Half of me almost thinks it is now mandatory to lynch him, because he is an advantage either way. Blight being town, gives doc someone to protect and we can try to vote on who the cops target will be. But ths poses a problem because not only does AlSleet ,if vig, is an easy kill, and there might be a mafia roleblocker(still not ruling it out) not a doc. Also the voting poses a problem. Anyway, if blight is town we have our lynch for tomorrow in the guy who hinted cop.
Confusing post. Confusing the antecedent and whatnot. You beleive KScope's hints, and you say we should lynch Blight to confirm KScope pro-town. You (mistakenly) say we should lynch the guy who hinted cop if Blight is town. Just overall weird.
Panzerjager wrote:The other half still wants a deathsauce lynch because that is the most logical thing at this point. He is unconfirmed and clearly is thought of as scum. He is the best canidate that isn't Blight or Ectomancer(depending on who won that arguement in one's opinion). Anyway i still want a Deathsauce lynch and this wasn't a one-liner(but it coulda been).
You want a DS lynch because he is "thought of as scum".
Best candidate that isn't Blight or Ecto? This might as well have been a one-liner.
Panzerjager wrote:Wow, you don't know how to read. That post is directed at Blight. I don't want to lynch K-Scope. I'm saying if we lynch blight and he is town, then doc would protect the guy who hinted cop by saying Blight is clean, protect Blight. Where the hell did you even get that I wanted a K-Scope lynch? I don't see how you screwed reading up that bad.
Discussing the Kscope/Blight situation gives scum more information, so thats probably not the best idea.
Your post was confusing and gramatically incorrect. Sorry.
Panzerjager wrote:Aye, okay. That line that deathsauce quote was supposed to say if Blight is scum then we lynch K-Scope.
Panzerjager wrote:Umm Blight, stop while you're ahead please. I still am standing by my one liner. "Why haven't we lynched Deathsauce yet?" Did I miss that in my read? I think at this point we're just talking in circles.
Telling Blight to shut up so he isn't lynched. Didn't you FoS him and half-believe a Blight lynch is mandatory?
Panzerjager wrote:Why hasn't Deathsauce been lynched yet? I'm still wait for an answer. Seriously.
What evidence is there to lynch him on?
Panzerjager wrote:Alright. I really don't have it into me to defend myself. I'm having problems in my personal problems, and have been for the couple of weeks. I feel deathsauce is scum because his arguements have been baseless and is riding the good things he said far too hard. I feel Deathsauce is the ONLY good candidate for lynch right now. Anyway, I'm Vanilla Town. Take that however you want and lynch who you please. I'm out for a a day or two at least.
Refusing to defend is not a good idea. Neither is a random Vanilla claim.
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Panzerjager wrote:Maybe, That or his buddies have put him on that island for a reason? I don't see how my posting has been disrespectful OTM. I feel if anything my post have been confident. I also want my case summed up so i can make a point by point defense.
You have been pushing a DS lynch without stating any evidence, except a relatively small item at the beginning of D2. You argue that Al is a SK, when we cannot really know at this point. You buy KScope's hints, yet you don't seem to have a position on Blight. That basically sums up the case.
Political Correctness offends me.