In post 902, vezokpiraka wrote:I don't even know why you guys are posting.
We have about 10 wagons with one or two votes and nothing consolidated. We'll reach deadline and probably no lynch. Vanity wagons are good in the first three days of a new day, but after that they just prove that you aren't willing to listen.
Would you kindly do as we asked and paraphrase the conversation that began the day with You and Beer? What you initially described sounds an awful lot like someone who got links to multiple PTs in his role PM and accidentally posted in the wrong one a short comment. You don't seem to be willing to actually follow through with answering our questions (mostly the ones Cerberus raised) so that we can feel confident that it's really that and not, for example, someone familiar with the show who was just commenting about his character compared to yours. You haven't told us how Beer tried to explain it away in your alliance that you started in, either, which is hugely relevant to the point of deciding how likely it was really a slip.
Personally, I'm confused by the situation as it stands right now. This is a pretty binary situation, and I'll try and work through how it should have gone either way:
A: It was a legit scum slip. Presuming the scum have daytalk, and presuming they are active and actively helping Beer in this case, then I would expect to see evidence in the thread of scum trying to call what you claimed into question, and there are a few posts which may fall under that umbrella. I spent some time speculating about what I would do if I were on a scum team with a scum!Beer before I realized that it's not at all relevant since I'm not and I cannot accurately model how a posited team would have tried to respond to the situation. Obviously just immediately bussing would have been a bad idea for them, I think ... and I think it's
probably
safe to assume they would try and persuade you and/or the rest of us that it wasn't what you were saying.
You are basically helping the scum team if it was a legit slip, because you won't paraphrase the initial interaction nor how Beer tried to talk his way out of it, nor do you seem wiling to explain how it reads to you. Like ... do they seem coached or did one head stop talking and the other took over? What actually happened, and what do you think it indicates? We need to know to decide how to proceed
B: It was not a legit scum slip or it didn't even happen. Since you two began in an alliance, it seems possible to me that you are mod confirmed in alignment to one another and you staged the whole thing to see how the rest of us would respond. If this is the case, then it was actually a pretty brilliant play because you got a lot of responses from it. I've been kind of leaning more and more towards this line of thinking as time has passed and you seem reluctant to go into any further discussion about it nor do you seem all that intent on pushing Beer at all. In fact, you are currently voting us because we wanted to be sure your ability appears to work as you claimed. If you aren't familiar with what happened in "We didn't playtest this", just say so and Cerberus can summarize. Suffice it to say that neither He nor I are willing to just let claims lead to assumptions that could lead to...
Speaking of vanity wagons ... could you maybe put your vote where you actually think scum is? I think you've sufficiently made your point by complying with our request by parking your double vote on us ... but nobody else even seemed curious or at all thinking of the long term possible ramifications of your claim, so we would rather a few people scrutinize us so that the town has as much information as possible than keep silent to avoid attention.
It's time to shite or get off the pot Vezok. If you and Beer cooked up what you started the day with as a way to get reactions; freaking awesome job. Tell us what you gleaned from it. If what you partially described earlier actually happened for realsies, then paraphrase for us the initial exchange, whatever beer said to talk his way out of it, and describe anything that might indicate a team was coaching him or one head stepped in to try and "clean up" the mistake another head made. Right now, if I assume that Beer really did make the post you suggest ... it seems very likely that it was a legitimate scum slip where one of the heads just posted in the wrong PT ... and if that is so, we should lynch him. What confuses me is your seeming apathy about it.
Love, with a steaming mug of hot chocolate made with milk for extra rich creaminess,
Drixx
