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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:38 am

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FOS: Panzer
for hammering and for proposing that there is a mafia roleblocker in a normal mini - wtf?

FOS: DeathSauce
for being waaaayyy too quick to vote AISleet without discussion and then quickly backing off when he realized it was making him look suspicious.

Now we have to figure out - what is AISleet? I doubt he is lying town, because that just seems stupid, and his response "Hey! I sent in my choice!" seemed legit. So he was blocked somehow, which means a doc protected Qman or Qman has a special role. We definitely don't want a doc to claim at this point. We could pressure Qman into a claim, but I have to disagree with AISleet here that Qman's behavior was scummy on Day 1. In fact, it seems more likely to me that AISleet used Qman's "lurking" as a convenient excuse so he could kill Qman and then say "well, he was lurking, so I thought he was scum."

It would have been nice if you could've posted your kill choice in Day 1 like you said you would, AISleet. I am still leaning towards SK for AISleet's role, because I just don't buy the argument that Qman looked the scummiest to him. I think he thought Qman was a "safe" kill, due to the lurking, rather than a scummy kill.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:51 am

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First Of all, I was the only one who made any significant case on Schism. So give it up if your trying to get me lynched for hammering schism aka Anal Sex.

Anyway, Scum Roleblockers are very common in normal games.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:58 am

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I was wondering the same. Mafia RB seems quite common these days, so I wouldn't exclude it.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:00 am

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Just realized - AISleet could be scum who expected there to be another nightkill, in addition to his xyzzy kill. Then when xyzzy was the only kill, he had to act like his kill didn't go through. Seems pretty clever, but it is a possibility.

I still think the chance that AISleet is scum is pretty minimal.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:02 am

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Mafia roleblockers in mini games? Seriously? I guess I just haven't come across those yet.

I'll poke around a little, but
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:14 am

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We know, eh Panzer :: wink :: :: wink ::

Seriously though, I have no idea, but the powerrole for the mafia that pops to my mind would be godfather or roleblocker, if they have any.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:17 am

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]We know, eh Panzer :: wink :: :: wink ::

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Huh?? What does this mean? My scummy sense is tingling.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:18 am

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FOS: DeathSauce for being waaaayyy too quick to vote AISleet without discussion and then quickly backing off when he realized it was making him look suspicious.
I honestly forgot about the possibility of a Doc because I just wasn't thinking. As soon as I was reminded I backed off, it had nothing to do with looking suspicious, I was just dumb.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:28 am

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[quote="Off the Mark"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]We know, eh Panzer :: wink :: :: wink ::

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Huh?? What does this mean? My scummy sense is tingling.[/quote]It's sarcasm. Duh :P
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:36 am

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Duh yourself. I know it's sarcasm, but it seemed you were comfortable with the connection between you and Panzer, which made me uneasy.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:45 am

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Off the Mark wrote:
FOS: Panzer
for hammering and for proposing that there is a mafia roleblocker in a normal mini - wtf?

FOS: DeathSauce
for being waaaayyy too quick to vote AISleet without discussion and then quickly backing off when he realized it was making him look suspicious.

Now we have to figure out - what is AISleet? I doubt he is lying town, because that just seems stupid, and his response "Hey! I sent in my choice!" seemed legit. So he was blocked somehow, which means a doc protected Qman or Qman has a special role. We definitely don't want a doc to claim at this point. We could pressure Qman into a claim, but I have to disagree with AISleet here that Qman's behavior was scummy on Day 1. In fact, it seems more likely to me that AISleet used Qman's "lurking" as a convenient excuse so he could kill Qman and then say "well, he was lurking, so I thought he was scum."

It would have been nice if you could've posted your kill choice in Day 1 like you said you would, AISleet. I am still leaning towards SK for AISleet's role, because I just don't buy the argument that Qman looked the scummiest to him. I think he thought Qman was a "safe" kill, due to the lurking, rather than a scummy kill.
I tried to but apparently I overlooked timezone differences and before I could even decide who I would go after the thread was closed.

But, I think today we should utilize the idea of the town telling me who they'd want me to kill and me doing it. I don't think this is too difficult unlike yesterday when I basically claimed at the last minute. But I'd like to see what you all have to think of the idea. I think it's good because it would essentially give the town 2 lynches.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:46 am

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Off the Mark wrote:Just realized - AISleet could be scum who expected there to be another nightkill, in addition to his xyzzy kill. Then when xyzzy was the only kill, he had to act like his kill didn't go through. Seems pretty clever, but it is a possibility.

I still think the chance that AISleet is scum is pretty minimal.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:17 am

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AlSleet wrote: I targeted Qman. Sorry, Qman.
This just caught my attention while re-reading: AISleet, why are you apologizing to someone whom you claim to believe is scummy?

This
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Also, your jump to the "use me to get another lynch" suggestion seems like you are desperate to prove yourself to town. Seems a little paranoid, which I would not expect for a real vig at this point, when there is very little pressure on you.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:42 am

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Panzerjager wrote:First Of all, I was the only one who made any significant case on Schism. So give it up if your trying to get me lynched for hammering schism aka Anal Sex.
Yeah, but why did you feel the need to hammer with the deadline only hours away? We could have at least given him the chance to respond before getting lynched, and it would have given AISleet a chance to state his target too. Seemed like an unnecessary premature hammer to me.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:45 am

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Off the Mark wrote:
AlSleet wrote: I targeted Qman. Sorry, Qman.
This just caught my attention while re-reading: AISleet, why are you apologizing to someone whom you claim to believe is scummy?

This
really
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Also, your jump to the "use me to get another lynch" suggestion seems like you are desperate to prove yourself to town. Seems a little paranoid, which I would not expect for a real vig at this point, when there is very little pressure on you.
Well, nobody likes being killed, OTM. It was facetious anyway.

And I'm not depserate to prove myself. I'm trying to help the town.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:49 am

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AlSleet wrote:It was facetious anyway.
You just admitted to acting fake.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:00 am

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AlSleet wrote:It was facetious anyway.
You just admitted to acting fake.
I admitted to acting less-than-serious in two words of my post.

You're really going to scrutinize an insignificant part of my post this closely?
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:04 am

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Sorry man, I am a details guy. It could be nothing, but it struck me as odd.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:09 am

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Off the Mark wrote:Sorry man, I am a details guy. It could be nothing, but it struck me as odd.
Yes I suppose it was a mistake to not be straightforward at this point in the game. Nevertheless, it didn't mean anything and trying to squeeze scum vibes out of it would be a fool's errand.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:30 am

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K-Scope, could you please define for me what you mean by "playing blank"? Thanks.

I'm absolutely sure that AlSleet is either vig or SK (leaning towards vig), and that there's no chance that he's mafia.

*goes back to reread*
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:44 pm

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bethelmark wrote:K-Scope, could you please define for me what you mean by "playing blank"? Thanks.

I'm absolutely sure that AlSleet is either vig or SK (leaning towards vig), and that there's no chance that he's mafia.

*goes back to reread*
I suggest you take a look on your own posts and start to notice the lack of suspicions.You have a total posts of 10:
- 1 was a random vote
- 2 were "I will post something soon"
- 2 posts were about claiming, and how you were against it.
- 2 posts were about you suspect and don't suspect someone at the same time (one was asked by someone else) (people involved: Korran, Schis, Myself).
- 1 post was the nightscene
- 2 posts were made because people noted you.

So bassicly, 3 of your posts were made because people questioned you or you were asked to, and 3 of them had no value. In exactly 0 posts you have stated any direct suspicions about someone.

In general, You've been bassicly been trying to fly under the raded.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:44 pm

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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:02 pm

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Alsleet why Qman?
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:13 pm

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Cause he is SK.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:53 am

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I'm absolutely sure that AlSleet is either vig or SK (leaning towards vig), and that there's no chance that he's mafia.
You're ABSOLUTELY SURE? That is pretty strange, because the only people that are absolutely sure of anything are the scum/werewolves.

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