New York 180 (Endgame)

Aeronaut · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:06 pm

@Klingon didn't see that post the first time. Does it make sense to read meta from other sites since the meta is very different there from here?

Aeronaut · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:06 pm

I'm also not sure about house right now.

House · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:07 pm

In post 524, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 511, pisskop wrote:

In post 430, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm one of the notorious USMB Liberals. I never miss an election. I simply brain farted and forgot to vote for Viking.

Your liberal tendencies aside :b, what is your opinion of House?

I don't know yet. I'm waiting for a ragepost.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW YET?!?!

HOW DARE YOU! YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ ME BY NOW!

(Is that better?)

Klingoncelt · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:10 pm

In post 525, Aeronaut wrote:@Klingon didn't see that post the first time. Does it make sense to read meta from other sites since the meta is very different there from here?

It's not so different. I can town/scumread House and SilverWolf based 100% on their behavior there.

btw -

Shinobi

- Happy Scumday!!

Klingoncelt · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:10 pm

In post 527, House wrote:
In post 524, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 511, pisskop wrote:

In post 430, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm one of the notorious USMB Liberals. I never miss an election. I simply brain farted and forgot to vote for Viking.

Your liberal tendencies aside :b, what is your opinion of House?

I don't know yet. I'm waiting for a ragepost.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW YET?!?!

HOW DARE YOU! YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ ME BY NOW!

(Is that better?)

meh

House · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:11 pm

In post 526, Aeronaut wrote:I'm also not sure about house right now.

Right now? When

were

you sure about me?

When you were sure about me, what were you sure about?

When you were sure about me, what made you sure about me?

At what point did you lose your certainty?

Aeronaut · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:11 pm

In post 528, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 525, Aeronaut wrote:@Klingon didn't see that post the first time. Does it make sense to read meta from other sites since the meta is very different there from here?

It's not so different. I can town/scumread House and SilverWolf based 100% on their behavior there.

btw -

Shinobi]/b] - Happy Scumday!!

What do you think of Silver / House at this time?

Klingoncelt · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:12 pm

In post 531, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 528, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 525, Aeronaut wrote:@Klingon didn't see that post the first time. Does it make sense to read meta from other sites since the meta is very different there from here?

It's not so different. I can town/scumread House and SilverWolf based 100% on their behavior there.

btw -

Shinobi]/b] - Happy Scumday!!

What do you think of Silver / House at this time?

They should be a hydra someday, I think.

Also, Wolf is Town.

House · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:13 pm

In post 532, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 531, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 528, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 525, Aeronaut wrote:@Klingon didn't see that post the first time. Does it make sense to read meta from other sites since the meta is very different there from here?

It's not so different. I can town/scumread House and SilverWolf based 100% on their behavior there.

btw -

Shinobi]/b] - Happy Scumday!!

What do you think of Silver / House at this time?

They should be a hydra someday, I think.

Also, Wolf is Town.

That would probably do wonders for Wolfie's sanity, as she wouldn't be pulling her hair out trying to figure out my alignment the entire game.

SilverWolf · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:13 pm

In post 523, pisskop wrote:
In post 513, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 511, pisskop wrote:

In post 467, SilverWolf wrote:I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

I don't understand. Viking is the lynchbait. What would lynching the one who is more likely town tell us? House said the same thing, in 464.

I never said vikingfan was lynchbait or more likely to be town. I've been arguing vikingfan is scum for several posts now. Plus, he's an informative lynch due to the counterwagon on dragon.

FA_Q2 has a point
I am taking the stance that Viking is the bait, and House and you thought Dragon was 'just being Dragon'.

If you believed he didnt know what RVS was what makes you think he even gets what a scumslip is? I'll grant that his post where he voted Dragon was bad, but Im not convinced wasnt overconfidence

I get it, you don't like the idea of lynching vikingfan and either does Aero. I've noticed your resistance to it. Just another reason for me to want to see him flip besides him being scummy as hell because it will tell me something about you and Aero as well.

Aeronaut · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:15 pm

In post 530, House wrote:
In post 526, Aeronaut wrote:I'm also not sure about house right now.

Right now? When
were
you sure about me?

When you were sure about me, what were you sure about?

When you were sure about me, what made you sure about me?

At what point did you lose your certainty?

I said that in the hopes that I might be sure in the future?

P-edit; I also think SW is town. Or, this is pretty close to how she was in the beginning of Antartic, and she was town AF there.

I think If I were hydra'd with house I'd just never post, and then we'd win.

Aeronaut · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:16 pm

That being said, I don't really agree with what's she saying.

House · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:19 pm

In post 535, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 530, House wrote:
In post 526, Aeronaut wrote:I'm also not sure about house right now.

Right now? When
were
you sure about me?

When you were sure about me, what were you sure about?

When you were sure about me, what made you sure about me?

At what point did you lose your certainty?

I said that in the hopes that I might be sure in the future?

Your answer is a question?

Aeronaut · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:21 pm

Pretend it's a period, then, if it pleases you.

SilverWolf · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:22 pm

In post 535, Aeronaut wrote:

P-edit; I also think SW is town. Or, this is pretty close to how she was in the beginning of Antartic, and she was town AF there.

That had to have been the towniest game I've ever played in my life or ever will be able to again.

Aeronaut · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:23 pm

True statement

House · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:27 pm

In post 538, Aeronaut wrote:Pretend it's a period, then, if it pleases you.

Okay, this actually strikes me as a towny post.

Not enough to totally sway my read, but it has taken a hit.

SilverWolf · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:44 pm

In post 533, House wrote:
That would probably do wonders for Wolfie's sanity, as she wouldn't be pulling her hair out trying to figure out my alignment the entire game.

I think we'd work very well together as a hydra.

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In post 540, Aeronaut wrote:True statement

It was the nightless setup. Scum couldn't kill me and I didn't have a PR so I could town the shit out of the game and they couldn't do anything about it. That said, I am still very bitter about the way we lost.

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In post 536, Aeronaut wrote:That being said, I don't really agree with what's she saying.

What in particular don't you like about what I am saying?

House · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:45 pm

In post 248, Boonskiies wrote:
@House - Very excited to finally be in an online game with you. Major reason I decided to /in this game.

Sorry for appearing to ignore your comment. I haven't been... I've just been analyzing the shit out of your post.

I realize, though, that I should have at least had the good manners to say hi.

I was glad to see you /inned to the game. I'm looking forward to having a chat with you here in the future when the time is right, but at the moment I'd like to see how this vikingfan/dragonspawn situation resolves.

SilverWolf · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:53 pm

In post 503, Aeronaut wrote:Then is he just this unreadable enigma

One thing I can tell you is if he's joking around and posting fluff, especially with those of us he knows, it isn't scummy for him. It's personality.

dragonspawn · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:27 pm

In post 507, FA_Q2 wrote:Sorry for my absince - been very busy lately and involved in a few games so time has been limited. This thread just constantly explodes as well. Just got somewhat caught up.

In post 448, SilverWolf wrote:It seems like every time vikingfan gets a vote, someone else comes along and throws down a vote for dragonspawn.

This does seem to be the case and makes viking a likely scum candidate for many of the reasons listed so far. The case against dragon is a LOT weaker than vikings and the fact that so many seem to have jumped on it just screams that as being a scum created counter to save one of their own. I happen to agree with silver in 467 on this one, a viking lynch would deliver us the most information at this point.

VOTE: viking

In post 498, vikingfan wrote:Silver I have zero idea what RVS means. care to explain?

How can you have been here a decade and nhot seen that acronym before? Is it uncommon here?

In post 451, Aeronaut wrote:Could you like a game where that happened?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/us ... -zone.139/
The games are listed as "Official USMB Mafia Game X" and he was in almost all of them as Avatar.

I am not sure it would really help. What happened is that dragon rolled scum in his first game and then won. As the player base consists of the same players virtually every game, that tainted him for the remaining 7 and he was lynched early virtually every time.

I would add that he has gotten a LOT more defensive at USMB because of this - I think that he is tired of being led to the gallows early. I still have a hard time reading him though but I have never played in a game with him where he was scum.

Not true. You were in fire and ice. I should have played that one differently

dragonspawn · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:33 pm

In post 522, Aeronaut wrote:Yea. I think Viking is someone who can be easily painted as scummy, and Dragon is someone whose receiving quite a bit of resistance. Another reason why I don't see myself moving away, right now.

And all the resistance to my wagon is coming from then people who played half a dozen or more games with me. Now, I suppose it's theoretically possible that I've rolled scum with all of my usual game roster, or maybe they have just played enough to know my usual game.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:46 pm

In post 525, Aeronaut wrote:@Klingon didn't see that post the first time. Does it make sense to read meta from other sites since the meta is very different there from here?

In post 545, dragonspawn wrote:
Not true. You were in fire and ice. I should have played that one differently

That's right. I forgot about that one.

It does not count though as you self outed to kill the ice team

I thought that was a really fun game.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:47 pm

In post 523, pisskop wrote:
In post 513, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 511, pisskop wrote:

In post 467, SilverWolf wrote:I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

I don't understand. Viking is the lynchbait. What would lynching the one who is more likely town tell us? House said the same thing, in 464.

I never said vikingfan was lynchbait or more likely to be town. I've been arguing vikingfan is scum for several posts now. Plus, he's an informative lynch due to the counterwagon on dragon.

FA_Q2 has a point
I am taking the stance that Viking is the bait, and House and you thought Dragon was 'just being Dragon'.

If you believed he didnt know what RVS was what makes you think he even gets what a scumslip is? I'll grant that his post where he voted Dragon was bad, but Im not convinced wasnt overconfidence

I, for one, do not believe that he did not know.

I think he is trying to use that as a cover because the 'bussing' slip earlier.

dragonspawn · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:49 pm

In post 511, pisskop wrote:
In post 403, Grib wrote:VOTE: vikingfan

You have a lot of naked votes. What was this one for?

In post 416, vikingfan wrote:especially the buddying with SilverWolf extremely interesting and have noted it for future reference in future days

What do you mean? In this same quote you mentioned listing scumreads, but don't go into detail about Silverwolf or TSO. Are you scumreading TSO?

In post 424, Shinobi wrote:VOTE: acryon

I think I'm just going to switch. I haven't forgotten about TSO but his filter is better than acryon's.

In post 509, Shinobi wrote:>Agrees with boon on dragonspawn.
>Scumread on dragonspawn disappears based on nothing.
>Summarizes useless information for no reason.

I am happy with my vote.

Oh. I was going to ask what made you vote Acryon. I can see that.

In post 430, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm one of the notorious USMB Liberals. I never miss an election. I simply brain farted and forgot to vote for Viking.

Your liberal tendencies aside :b, what is your opinion of House?

In post 467, SilverWolf wrote:I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.

I don't understand. Viking is the lynchbait. What would lynching the one who is more likely town tell us? House said the same thing, in 464.

Dragonspawn

In post 449, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 441, dragonspawn wrote:

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

Why? I've been trying to read House all game and I can't still.

How is this answer coming?

In post 466, dragonspawn wrote:
And yet I haven't made a determination in either direction whether boon is scum or town so how can it be a scum tell in context?

What do you think of Boon? What about me, or everyone else on your wagon?

I saw the question. Didn't want you to think I'm ignoring it. I'm not sure what to think of quite a number of you guys so far. This is my first game with most of you and it usually takes some time to get descent reads on people. Which is precisely why most of my current reads are on people I'm familiar with. I suppose that's just day one.

Boon, for example hasn't posted a lot. Most of his substance posts are his analysis of my game play so far. I clearly pissed him off since he agreed with my post on angering people. And I disagree with his analysis obviously. That's not really a scum tell though. Doesn't mean he is town either. I just haven't seen enough yet.

As for you I'd like to see more from you. Null so far.

My fullest read on my wagon is probably aero. Getting a town vibe from him. He is asking questions. Not shying from discussion. He seems sincere in his inquiries like he is trying to figure things out.

Usually is like this day one. Nothing firm and sometimes fluid. I'm usually better on later days