New York 180 (Endgame)

[Aeronaut]

@Cheetory: I'm not sure. I feel like I'd like a bit more out of him because his current lack of activity bothers me, and the way he consulted his wagon was pretty much exactly how I would handle it if I were scum. Someone of his townreads seemed very empty. I don't feel particularly satisfied by what I've received, especially since I know he's going to read me as town either way because I know that he knows it sates me.

The only other person I would consider switching to would be acryon, for his #401. It felt like mafia trying to egg on bad analysis, especially since he didn't really seem to follow it up with anything.

Wouldn't you also scumread boon for giving said bad analysis?

[Boonskiies]

Man, that's a town tell from a boon.

[Shinobi]

@Cheetory: I'm not sure. I feel like I'd like a bit more out of him because his current lack of activity bothers me, and the way he consulted his wagon was pretty much exactly how I would handle it if I were scum. Someone of his townreads seemed very empty. I don't feel particularly satisfied by what I've received, especially since I know he's going to read me as town either way because I know that he knows it sates me.

The only other person I would consider switching to would be acryon, for his #401. It felt like mafia trying to egg on bad analysis, especially since he didn't really seem to follow it up with anything.

Wouldn't you also scumread boon for giving said bad analysis?

No?

[SilverWolf]

Back as promised . I find a lot of interaction, especially the buddying with SilverWolf extremely interesting and have noted it for future reference in future days. As for who I find scummy:

I'm going to note the wagon on dragonspawn first. First of all there was an attempt to elicit a reaction on my part which he simply voted on because I reacted, whereas I'm sure if I'd just ignored the whole attempt to elicit a reaction would have been found scummy too in terms of ignoring it. So that became a no-win situation because there would be a reaction of some sort, which I found interesting. I find Grib's post about being on V/LA until Tuesday in post 37 very interesting because he also noted v/la due to homework and there was zero bussing as a result of that yet my post about having real-life things as well was found scummy so I am noting the selective criteria being used for future reference. also, dragon spent a lot of posts defending silverwolf and very little on anyone else.

I find tso's defense fine for now. so UNVOTE: tso VOTE: dragonspawn

BTW, I have never played with anyone in this game so using meta is useless in my case so I'm not going to use that to try to read other people. I will say that I tend to play as much as possible exactly the same whether town or scum.

Oh for the love of all things sacred and holy in this world, can we please lynch this scum?

Your comment to influence the town with no other comment is noted.

Stop it. You're scaring me.

[Klingoncelt]

I agree with Klingon's 354. Klingon-do you find this vote worthy? I do.

His first RVS vote defending Wake was shady, then he joins the leading Wagon at the first opportunity, then remarks about how many posts there are which is basically his way of stating something while saying nothing.

Oh duh, I forgot to vote!

VOTE: Vikingfan

[Klingoncelt]

I also find Klingon's post suspicious, for the lack of vote. If it's a Solid Scumread, isn't it worth a vote?

I think I have my first solid scumread...

3 fluffposts, the first is RVS, and in the second he wants to PL TSO for lurking.

This may be playstyle-related.

@Klingon: Would you say you are liberal, conservative, or somewhere in between with throwing out votes?

I'm one of the notorious USMB Liberals. I never miss an election. I simply brain farted and forgot to vote for Viking.

[House]

Defensive response noted. You still haven't answered my original question.

He was the exact opposite of defensive.

[House]

This is a terrible reason for a vote.

FoS: pisskop

Boons and Aero's votes were fine.

What was bad about my reason for voting dragon?

What is scummy about placing a pressure vote and saying it's for pressure? Maybe if you explained that, I'd understand it better.

Do you seriously need this basic concept spelled out?

Say it ain't so.

[House]

VOTE: vikingfan

Sheeping my neigh...ing horse!

[SilverWolf]

This is a terrible reason for a vote.

FoS: pisskop

Boons and Aero's votes were fine.

What was bad about my reason for voting dragon?

What is scummy about placing a pressure vote and saying it's for pressure? Maybe if you explained that, I'd understand it better.

Do you seriously need this basic concept spelled out?

Say it ain't so.

meh-I just wanted a better explanation for pisskop's vote which he provided

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: vikingfan

Sheeping my neigh...ing horse!

Interesting.

[dragonspawn]

Back as promised . I find a lot of interaction, especially the buddying with SilverWolf extremely interesting and have noted it for future reference in future days. As for who I find scummy:

I'm going to note the wagon on dragonspawn first. First of all there was an attempt to elicit a reaction on my part which he simply voted on because I reacted, whereas I'm sure if I'd just ignored the whole attempt to elicit a reaction would have been found scummy too in terms of ignoring it. So that became a no-win situation because there would be a reaction of some sort, which I found interesting.

I find Grib's post about being on V/LA until Tuesday in post 37 very interesting because he also noted v/la due to homework and there was zero bussing as a result of that yet my post about having real-life things as well was found scummy so I am noting the selective criteria being used for future reference.

also, dragon spent a lot of posts defending silverwolf and very little on anyone else.

I find tso's defense fine for now. so UNVOTE: tso VOTE: dragonspawn

BTW, I have never played with anyone in this game so using meta is useless in my case so I'm not going to use that to try to read other people. I will say that I tend to play as much as possible exactly the same whether town or scum.

Was rereading your posts and a few others and something about this one stood out. I've bolded the portion. You're claiming people are bussing you. You can only be bussed if you are scum. And you can only be bussed by fellow scum.

You also claimed no one was bussing grib. Same problem. Care to explain?

[dragonspawn]

Wake, do you usually watch as much as you are in this game? Or is there something specific you are hoping to see before you vote?

And what do you think of vikings wagon so far?

[T S O]

dragonspawn, what answer do you expect from 436? The only way it's valid is if he and Grib are scumpartners and other scum didn't vote Grib... rather unlikely.

[House]

VOTE: vikingfan

Sheeping my neigh...ing horse!

Interesting.

It was either him or you. Fortunately for you, I place more stock in the reads of others than I do my own.

We'll see how it pans out.

[dragonspawn]

dragonspawn, what answer do you expect from 436? The only way it's valid is if he and Grib are scumpartners and other scum didn't vote Grib... rather unlikely.

I want some sort of explanation. It doesn't make sense. Because as you said it is unlikely. Hence why I'm asking. I can't get an understanding of what's going on in vikings head if I don't ask questions on things that bother me can I?

Now why does it bother you that I'm asking him about his statement?

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: vikingfan

Sheeping my neigh...ing horse!

Interesting.

It was either him or you. Fortunately for you, I place more stock in the reads of others than I do my own.

We'll see how it pans out.

Oh that's not what I found interesting.

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

[House]

VOTE: vikingfan

Sheeping my neigh...ing horse!

Interesting.

It was either him or you. Fortunately for you, I place more stock in the reads of others than I do my own.

We'll see how it pans out.

Oh that's not what I found interesting.

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

Why are you even leaning that way?

You never even consider the possibility that I'm town.

Starting to wonder if I made the right choice. <_<

[Kitz]

Oh duh, I forgot to vote!

You simply forgot to vote? Hmm. I knew there was something off with your lack of vote. I dunno, but then again you're V/LA for computer issues.

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

Is that just something random to say?

Back as promised .

Great!

I'm going to note the wagon on dragonspawn first. First of all there was an attempt to elicit a reaction on my part which he simply voted on because I reacted, whereas I'm sure if I'd just ignored the whole attempt to elicit a reaction would have been found scummy too in terms of ignoring it. So that became a no-win situation because there would be a reaction of some sort, which I found interesting.

Uhh, what? This is just a mess. As for the one post, he could've written a lot more. One post - ignoring the semi-filler next one, is just not enough.
VOTE: Vikingfan

[elusive]

vikingfan, are you new to mafia? Also do you see why you seem suspicious? It looks like you scum claimed.

[FakedBlogger]

dragonspawn, what answer do you expect from 436? The only way it's valid is if he and Grib are scumpartners and other scum didn't vote Grib... rather unlikely.

I want some sort of explanation. It doesn't make sense. Because as you said it is unlikely. Hence why I'm asking. I can't get an understanding of what's going on in vikings head if I don't ask questions on things that bother me can I?

Now why does it bother you that I'm asking him about his statement?

This is a defensive response.

[FakedBlogger]

VOTE: dragonspawn

[House]

dragonspawn, what answer do you expect from 436? The only way it's valid is if he and Grib are scumpartners and other scum didn't vote Grib... rather unlikely.

I want some sort of explanation. It doesn't make sense. Because as you said it is unlikely. Hence why I'm asking. I can't get an understanding of what's going on in vikings head if I don't ask questions on things that bother me can I?

Now why does it bother you that I'm asking him about his statement?

This is a defensive response.

Why does that make him scum instead of insecure?

[SilverWolf]

It seems like every time vikingfan gets a vote, someone else comes along and throws down a vote for dragonspawn.

[SilverWolf]

I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.

Why? I've been trying to read House all game and I can't still.