SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Metal Sonic]

but ceph has townread me in the early game and early reads and that makes me happy

i never seen ceph play so i dont know his meta

[Metal Sonic]

its better if i dont know someone's meta though. I get super paranoid if a particular player snows me more than once as scum even if he/she is my friend

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[Metal Sonic]

@solar wind & fourtrouble

I want your updated reads on cephrir because you guys were the top 2 anti-cephrir pushers in day 1.

updated because reads can change

[Metal Sonic]

please prod bitmap

[Cephrir]

You're claiming scum and behaving guiltily. If anti wasn't in your hydra, you would be at the bottom of my scum list

I like TTH here, and that doesn't even match up with other places I've seen her so ick.

Low hanging fruit?
Isn't that what metal is?

Not really.

CEPH didn't actually fullclaim so his piecemeal claim sounds like unbelievable

What the fuck are you talking about

[Cephrir]

i realise ceph is just sitting on his big fat bum and laughing his ass off at the drama

oh man

that is so not town

A) this reads more contrived than those lines in the amazing race about how great the car they're driving is ("Ooooh maaaan this ceph rides so bad!!!!!!")
B) where the fuck am I doing that

also i saw that ceph crumbed lie detector and fake gambited lie detector so his crumbs of "omg my role is super cool" is bullshit. don't know why vezok wanted to save him.

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but ceph has townread me in the early game and early reads and that makes me happy

i never seen ceph play so i dont know his meta

I think we've played before somewhere.

[T S O]

Antihero pls gag me

I think Anti would have a hard time with that since you've already got F16's thumb in your mouth.

What do you think is scummy about my style? o_O

vote ms

[Imperium]

aceofspades - How did you get that second vote yesterday? Is it something you can do every day?

[PeregrineV]

I'm a nice guy, but I seriously don't give a flying fuck about your personal vendettas. Keep em out of the game.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[farside22]

I'm a nice guy, but I seriously don't give a flying fuck about your personal vendettas. Keep em out of the game.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I'll have a long post tomorrow with a bunch of stuff.

[Solar Wind]

But AP was a townlynch, not a scumlynch.

KNEW you'd say that.

Because it's the truth, and you damn-well KNOW it is.
AP was not groupscum.
Groupscum would have no clue AP was a third party. (Unless they did, in which case they'd want him dead EVEN MORE than town would.)
Thus, groupscum had every incentive to be on his lynch.

It was scumdriven.

For looking at votes, and voters on AP-wagon, this.

This is pretty non-specific.

[Solar Wind]

MS, what happened in your neighborhood with Bitmap?

[PeregrineV]

But AP was a townlynch, not a scumlynch.

KNEW you'd say that.

Because it's the truth, and you damn-well KNOW it is.
AP was not groupscum.
Groupscum would have no clue AP was a third party. (Unless they did, in which case they'd want him dead EVEN MORE than town would.)
Thus, groupscum had every incentive to be on his lynch.

It was scumdriven.

For looking at votes, and voters on AP-wagon, this.

This is pretty non-specific.

Mine or yours?

[Solar Wind]

But AP was a townlynch, not a scumlynch.

KNEW you'd say that.

Because it's the truth, and you damn-well KNOW it is.
AP was not groupscum.
Groupscum would have no clue AP was a third party. (Unless they did, in which case they'd want him dead EVEN MORE than town would.)
Thus, groupscum had every incentive to be on his lynch.

It was scumdriven.

For looking at votes, and voters on AP-wagon, this.

This is pretty non-specific.

Mine or yours?

Yours.

Actually your whole day 2 so far feels pretty

[mastin2]

Skybird
Imperium

Why is your vote on Skybird then?

Because vanity votes are for the end of the day; pragmatic votes are for the beginning of the day. The other way around just leads to too much bitterness.



(Because I felt like it. It's not like I'll be able to get an Imperium lynch anyway. Even if I push hard, and push hard, right now, and continue to push. Even if I gave it 100%. It's not happening today. Thus, my vote would be little more than just that, a vanity vote.)

[PeregrineV]

But AP was a townlynch, not a scumlynch.

KNEW you'd say that.

Because it's the truth, and you damn-well KNOW it is.
AP was not groupscum.
Groupscum would have no clue AP was a third party. (Unless they did, in which case they'd want him dead EVEN MORE than town would.)
Thus, groupscum had every incentive to be on his lynch.

It was scumdriven.

For looking at votes, and voters on AP-wagon, this.

This is pretty non-specific.

Mine or yours?

Yours.

Actually your whole day 2 so far feels pretty

Why thank you!

My point was that AP, for wagon and vote analysis purposes, should be treated as if town.

[Solar Wind]

dunno how I managed to hit submit in the middle of typing.

Your whole day 2 so far feels like you're not digging in and trying to figure things out.

[Solar Wind]

Mastin,

What are your thoughts about TWIE's entrance?

[PeregrineV]

dunno how I managed to hit submit in the middle of typing.

Your whole day 2 so far feels like you're not digging in and trying to figure things out.

SK-scum lynched and no deaths. Same info as yesterday, but trying to stay in the conversation and get some reads there.

But, at this point since I don't really feel like digging into 14 deadline-lynch votes and their reasons, give me something you want to see.

If it sounds fun and cool and will net info, you got it.

[mastin2]

Mastin, Ffery is right. AP's play felt scummy much like he did in Tales. If you read through my case(s) on him, I elaborate in more detail. He most certainly wasn't playing the way town-AP normally does and I don't think that he was playing to support a town wincon either.

On the contrary, your case was, and continues to be, shit on AP. He very easily could have been town with YOUR case on him. He's not an idiot, F-16. He'd see the role in basically the same way I did. So know what he'd do with it? Treat it as mostly-town, partially-not-town. More survivalistic, and more defensive of Norsemen, so not 100% town, but a good 90% town.

This, incidentally, is a perfect match with my read on him: I wasn't able to get the strong townvibes from a combination of his absence (null) and him not technically being town, but he was still all the same sending off townvibes albeit weakly.

Players who play SKs or SKlike roles as being scum are fucking insane. (Especially if you have bulletproofness.) You draw SK, you play almost identically to being town, because it's what gives you the best chance of winning.

Ergo, your case was still shit.

But I digress; this is a tangent and doesn't really help us with current scumhunting affairs.

However, I agree that mafia would probably have hopped onto his wagon thinking that they were about to score a mislynch.

If not Imperium, then, name them.

But I'm not a huge fan of looking only on the wagon.

I don't think all the scum were on the wagon.
I just think the majority were.

[Solar Wind]

But AP was a townlynch, not a scumlynch.

KNEW you'd say that.

Because it's the truth, and you damn-well KNOW it is.
AP was not groupscum.
Groupscum would have no clue AP was a third party. (Unless they did, in which case they'd want him dead EVEN MORE than town would.)
Thus, groupscum had every incentive to be on his lynch.

It was scumdriven.

For looking at votes, and voters on AP-wagon, this.

This is pretty non-specific.

Mine or yours?

Yours.

Actually your whole day 2 so far feels pretty

Why thank you!

My point was that AP, for wagon and vote analysis purposes, should be treated as if town.

I agree with this, but I expected you to follow up with some vote analysis. You just threw the comment out there and did nothing with it.

[Solar Wind]

dunno how I managed to hit submit in the middle of typing.

Your whole day 2 so far feels like you're not digging in and trying to figure things out.

SK-scum lynched and no deaths. Same info as yesterday, but trying to stay in the conversation and get some reads there.

But, at this point since I don't really feel like digging into 14 deadline-lynch votes and their reasons, give me something you want to see.

If it sounds fun and cool and will net info, you got it.

I want to see where YOUR thought process takes you. You're not a consultant. You're a player with a win condition.

[Solar Wind]

@ Mastin, disagree on AP playing like town but you are entitled to your opinion.

If not Imperium, then, name them.

Our vote is on them. What now?

[mastin2]

Because the AP wagon was probably the scum counterwagon to ace.

Thought that, too, but have my doubts now.

Kinda sorta getting D1 Sabotage vibes from D1: all wagons in rotation being town and scum not really caring, so long as they get *a* mislynch in.

[PeregrineV]

dunno how I managed to hit submit in the middle of typing.

Your whole day 2 so far feels like you're not digging in and trying to figure things out.

SK-scum lynched and no deaths. Same info as yesterday, but trying to stay in the conversation and get some reads there.

But, at this point since I don't really feel like digging into 14 deadline-lynch votes and their reasons, give me something you want to see.

If it sounds fun and cool and will net info, you got it.

I want to see where YOUR thought process takes you. You're not a consultant. You're a player with a win condition.

My thought processes take to me the fact this is a repeat of day1 with one non-mafia flip.

So, a lot of work and questionable reward for that work.

So, I'm procrastinating.

I like to procrastinate if I can.