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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:55 am

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In post 2298, T S O wrote:MS would be the greatest fucking utility lynch ever if he was here.

Would be nice, yeah.
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:56 am

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So, Peregrine is being useless, gives an arguably lame reaction, and votes someone with no build-up. Nacho...

...no, sticking with my boy Tiphaine here.
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:58 am

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In post 2291, T S O wrote:One cannot be ??? AT BEST - one is just ???. Pere is not scum with a chance of ??? - Pere is ???, full stop.

And you're asserting that it's better to have no case than a bad case because... logic?

Generally, I read someone as somewhere on a sliding scale from confirmed scum to null to confirmed town. When someone is null at best, it means that treating them as 50% scum or 50% town is my most favorable interpretation of their posting.

I am not asserting anything about no case > bad case. I don't want to lynch Tiphaine because he is town. I don't particularly care about cases on him (unless they are good and change my mind) because I have a townread on him. I don't particularly care about finding a great case at this point in time: instead, I'm looking for a decent to good lynch.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:59 am

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In post 2294, T S O wrote:Am I talking to Nacho or Tammy here? I want to know who I feel like yelling at.

I think you're probably jumping to conclusions with my posting and that isn't exactly conducive to working together and finding + lynching scum. I agree that Peregrine is a bad lynch. I maintain that TD is a bad lynch. Can we find somewhere else to lynch?
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:00 pm

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Do you really think that TD-scum's mislynch short list would include Mastin and Solar Wind? Do you think it's scummy if people want to lynch someone who has been completely useless?
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:03 pm

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In post 2303, Imperium wrote:
In post 2294, T S O wrote:Am I talking to Nacho or Tammy here? I want to know who I feel like yelling at.

I think you're probably jumping to conclusions with my posting and that isn't exactly conducive to working together and finding + lynching scum. I agree that Peregrine is a bad lynch. I maintain that TD is a bad lynch. Can we find somewhere else to lynch?


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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:03 pm

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I'm not particularly pro-Tiphaine, I'm just rather anti-Peregrine.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:05 pm

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I'm open to lynching AP on the basis of play because I don't townread much in his posts. I don't particularly want to lynch him because he can be one of the strongest town players in the game, but at this point, I would.
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:05 pm

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I'm not lynching mastin because her reaction to my push was town. I believe the claim and will not touch it.
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:08 pm

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We've been trying to figure out how we feel about skybird.
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:08 pm

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Yeah, as I ISO people, I'm beginning to realise why you guys wanted Peregrine - there's no actual good lynch here bar MS, there are just null lynches and bad lynches.

I agree on mastin. I could do AP, I guess, but I can't say I'd be thaaat confident he'd flip scum. He could. But if we're going for a "could flip scum" then we're back to Peregrine again.
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:09 pm

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Skybird is a relatively strong townread. I liked when she called Metal Sonic out about townreading everyone in his neighbourhood.
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:10 pm

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In post 1457, Skybird wrote:OK, caught up now. I'm a bit dismayed to find MetalSonic is removed from today because I'm reading him as scum now. In our hood he really wants all of us to be town and then decides we are all town. That strikes me as someone who is scum that wants to get on the hood's good side. Here in the game thread his post progression reads more scummy as the pages go by. Voting for him will have to wait until day 2 though.

This line of reasoning (MS is scum trying to manipulate our neighborhood) seems town-motivated.

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In post 1502, theaceofspades wrote:cutthroat kitchen and robbery at the casino are the games i played with him. Granted one was a hydra


Thanks. Now can you explain why he's one of your strongest town reads?

Tone in this post is very town.

In post 1648, Skybird wrote:
In post 1638, iHouse wrote:
In post 1424, Skybird wrote:OK, I've read through page 28 now and here's what I think so far:
Town: Bitmap, farside, Imperium
Leaning Town: MetalSonic, SolarWind
Null: House
Leaning Scum: beastcharizard , RachMarie, TiphaineDeath

These are the players that have made an impression through page 28. Back to reading now.


You list me among the players that have made an impression, but read me as null?

wut?


Last game we played together you had me thinking you were town when you were scum. So right now you are null because I don't trust my town read on you. :lol:

This seems like a town approach to paranoia as opposed to the more classic "you fooled me one time so i think you might be scum".

tammy has a townread on this slot. i don't want to lynch this slot.
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:10 pm

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In post 2310, T S O wrote:Yeah, as I ISO people, I'm beginning to realise why you guys wanted Peregrine - there's no actual good lynch here bar MS, there are just null lynches and bad lynches.

I agree on mastin. I could do AP, I guess, but I can't say I'd be thaaat confident he'd flip scum. He could. But if we're going for a "could flip scum" then we're back to Peregrine again.

Peregrine's softclaim of his death bringing positive utility seems town to me.
I didn't catch it at all before.
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:11 pm

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I've got to go to bed, exams tomorrow.
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:11 pm

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This is a difficult one for me.
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:12 pm

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I remember having a gut scum read on FourTrouble. I don't really know why and I highly doubt he'll happen because he's rather smooth in his postings, but I feel the need to note it.
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:12 pm

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ok.

the concern we had was the house read. And just a general lack of exposure to her scum game, which we need to address at some point.
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:12 pm

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In post 1152, theaceofspades wrote:yes plural. This is not the first game to have neighborhoods. How bout this. The CONCEPT of neighborhoods is helpful. Deal?

also, to farsides newb/notnewb. I don't read join dates. And i don't pay enough attention to know who's who. Also don't read meta. Each game is a beautiful new baby. Plus, my hateful nature plays no favorites.

I linked one post, but i mentioned two other things. i think that 3 things is plenty. Especially considering you voted me with that many posts.

Pedit. Blonde. Don't do that.

aceofspades tone is consistently town.
this post is the best example of that.
solar wind has a townread here. i don't want to lynch this slot.
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:15 pm

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In post 1689, beastcharizard wrote:This is why I like you TSO. You get me.

I vaguely liked this post.

In post 2051, beastcharizard wrote:Everyone has a damn powerful ability. Also, you know part of my ability and you are like: "Lynch that guy whom I know part of his power. Who gives a shit if he is town." Like for real? Also, I can't do jack shit about it because my vote is fucking 0. I can't pressure you or anything. I am in the WORST Position game wise out of anyone in this thread because my vote is 0 and nothing that I know of can change that today.

This is scummy because he is using his role to explain shitty play.

I thought the "I'm not the lynch today" thing was kind of soft-claimy and town at first, but it doesn't look town anymore. I would lynch this slot.
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:17 pm

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In post 766, -Blonde- wrote:Oh and if it becomes necessary, I can prove I'm town.

This softclaim screams town.

In post 781, -Blonde- wrote:No, I voted for him, hoping he'd vote for me. Didn't go quite to plan.

This gambit is town.

In post 783, -Blonde- wrote:Enjoyment.

Tone in this post is town.

In post 861, -Blonde- wrote:
In post 844, The Mask wrote:Oh right + Blonde for being around but not attempting any involvement with others, and generally being a dickhead. To hades with him as well!

Wow, I'm so offended ;_; Didn't know people take a
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This tone is also town.

Believing he can confirm himself as town whenever he wants also matches up with tone.
I can't see him gambitting as scum like that and then playing as lackadaisically as he does later in the game.

Not reading Aeronaut, but also not lynching this slot today.
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:18 pm

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Vote: beastcharizard
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:20 pm

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beast has a confirmed effect on vote counts.

Mask claimed at first that his own voting effect and beast's couldn't both be town. Then he rethought.

Also TSO will fite you about that vote.

Anyway.

This is role madness. everyone is going to have interesting claims.
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:21 pm

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In post 1021, TiphaineDeath wrote:It's hard to put my finger on, but it feels faked. It feels like.... Like scum have daychat and are using it to pretend to do this thing, but actually, there's an easy way to clear this up.

@mod assuming someone would require non-posting for the rest of the day to complete a gambit they had discussed elsewhere or possibly with you, would you consent to not prod that person for the remainder of the day? This is purely a hypothetical game-rules question ;)

This is town.

In post 1601, TiphaineDeath wrote:Hey guys, having problems irl, don't want it to spill over in to game, but don't REALLY have time to post right now. I've looked terrible this game and this move is not going to help. I think cephrir is scum UNVOTE: VOTE: cephrir I'll try to explain this when I get back, promise.

This is town.

In post 1828, TiphaineDeath wrote:I do not like this interaction Sam-I-Am. Note to self, Stick-With-Your-Gut, and logic and everyone else be damned. VOTE: Solar Wind

This is town (he had a reason to townread Solar earlier that was endorsed by several people, there's literally no reason to buck it at this point in time).

In post 2052, TiphaineDeath wrote:Ceph and solars talk was crappy, Solars vote and unvote stinks of scum trying to make something happen and backing off quickly when it doesn't. Ceph's gambit is town.

Reaction to Ceph-Gambit is town.

Will not lynch this slot today.
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:21 pm

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Tammy, tell me who to vote.

And it has to be Tammy, I won't listen to Nacho.

PEdit: Oh, it also can't be to vote beastcharizard because I really do have a townread on him.

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