@Nab-Nab: I don't think the case on HJ is very strong. I personally can understand his progression of suspicion against dylan quite easily.
I think it's good that you're looking at all the players though.
@Everybody: PBP of Dylan.
dylan41985 wrote:unvote: carrotcake
vote: J-man
for seeming over-zealous to get to night time (maybe so he can kill me?)
Perhaps his finest hour: a vote with a reason. Although the end bit just isn't necessary.
dylan41985 wrote:joining a bandwagon vote may seem suspicious, but it's too obvious! I'm not that dumb.
WIFOM
No explanation. This just came after a few other people had left the j-man wagon.
dylan41985 wrote:vote J-man
again
Once again no explanation (this will become the norm for Dylan). What's even more strange is that j-man
hadn't even said anything
between his previous unvote and this revote. He just up and changed his mind.
dylan41985 wrote:Mod:
does J-man have 2 or 3 votes?
I don't really know why he asked this. Anyway he could have just checked for himself.
dylan41985 wrote:it is kind of suspicious that Mastermind of Sin confidently states that "J-man is not scum." Are they working together?
Mastermind - can you explain why he isn't scum?
He's feeling a bit of heat here. Perhaps this is a bit of deflection, added to a bit of, "hey lets go back to the previous bandwagon".
dylan41985 wrote:Adel, I don't know what I just said that made you vote for me. you know this is one of my first games
Using the old newbie defence. Sorry, but first-time players can still be mafia.
Also it seems as though he's played in a number of games anyway. Enough to know what's expected behaviour at the very least.
dylan41985 wrote:I've already accepted that I'm going to be lynched. I'm innocent though.
Do me a favor and kill off Adel, Kate, molestargazer. They're scum.
No explanation behind his suspicions, as always.
dylan41985 wrote:unvote: J-man
Vote: Mastermind of Sin
not that it matters.
I think Mastermind is more scummy than Kate[/b]
Well why didn't you mention him in your previous "these people are scum post". You're not very helpful are you.
dylan41985 wrote:wow Adel! maybe you do have some townie goodness in your heart!
Here he's saying adel is town because she unvoted him. Flattery coupled with bad logic = scummy.
dylan41985 wrote:You know, I would almost rather be lynched and watch all the mafia who voted for me squirm and the townspeople feel guilty as you find out that I'm innocent. However, my life is more important to me.
Everyone says I'm a horrible player and they hate the way I play. Ok, that's fine. That makes sense. I like to lurk and watch your posts.
But you're all suspicious of me because I haven't said much and only wrote ten words when I did speak. That isn't fine. I don't think you can justify any type of theory that lurking makes me scummy. Lurking is one of my favorite pastimes and if you want to hate on me for that, then that's not very nice.
You all say "EXPLAIN YOURSELF, DYLAN. WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR EVIDENCE."
I say...No. All I have to explain is that I didn't have much to say. And I want to hear YOUR evidence. Real evidence against me. Ironically, the only people who know that I am innocent are the mafia, because they know I'm not on their side. And they are the people putting ideas in your brains. They're brainwashing you to make me seem scummier than I am!
I really feel like many of the attacks on me are crazy.
For example... molestargazer says "
Appealing to emotion. Just because you're a new player doesn't mean you're not scum
" and then goes on to say "
I really don't like the way you're playing. You seem panicky under pressure, and that's understandable - but I want to get some firm evidence and something solid to discuss
."
This is such a flimsy argument!
Please let me know what else makes me sound scummy and I'll tell you my reasoning.
I feel that if j-man hadn't gotten away with his "defence" dylan wouldn't have tried to pull this stunt. Fortunately what worked once worked again for him. I've got more to say about this but I'll leave it to my conclusion section.
dylan41985 wrote:omg i love your visuals, Adel!
For once we actually agree on something.
dylan41985 wrote:Hey all: I'm actually in the same boat as NabakovNabakov, except I'm not sure exactly how much I'll be able to post. Don't vote me out while I'm gone! haha
That haha at the end just makes me see red. "I'm not going to be here so you can't vote me, suckers!" is what I read that as.
dylan41985 wrote:I'm not back yet, but I got the chance to post. Once I'm dead and you all discover that I'm innocent...please lynch Kate, molestargazer, and MasterMind of Sin.
Thanks, I really appreciate it. Although I doubt you'll do it since you aren't listening now.
Reiterating his list-o-scum. Gives us the old "the whole world is against me, and no-one even cares" routine with the last line. So, sympathy garnering again.
dylan41985 wrote:Kate, I don't feel like defending myself because it's just no use. Stop asking me to explain myself! I have nothing else to say. You all think I'm scum because it's the easy way out. And because I was lurking?
GOOD BYE KATE.
it looks like you won this battle...although I really do want to stay in the game.
He asked in his previous posts for people to ask him questions so he could defend himself against them, and in this post decides not to. Once again, what a prime example of helpful townsmanship!
dylan41985 wrote:you're making me crazy pickemgenius! i am not anti-town and do not have anti-town behavior (for real, at least) so stop saying that to everyone. And thanks for lying when you said you were going to give me until July 1... was that the first time you lied in this game???????
Pickem repsonds with something like: "Well you lied first, because you said you were going to get back on july 1st and you came back sooner. When you did you became fair game." And dylan...
dylan41985 wrote:ok, well nevermind my comment about lying then. i don't think you're scum.
...accepts.
dylan41985 wrote:hey all -
I'm back! I'm also sorry if I have offended anyone as much as J-man.
Well sorry implies that you might be willing to change to rectify the situation.
dylan41985 wrote:unvote
vote: curiouskarmadog
However this obviously isn't the case as he just goes back to what he does best by voting the biggest bandwagon, without providing a reason.
In conclusion Dylan has exhibited scummy behavior in a number of ways, most damning of these is his propensity to lurk, not provide reasons for his votes, vote for the largest bandwagon, and finally refuse to defend himself when questioned.
He says himself that he lurks all the time and that it cannot be used as an argument against him. Fair enough, but as a result of his lurking we only have a limited amount of material to work with when reviewing his actions, and even still nearly
all
of it is questionable.
Finally even if he is a townie I think he is probably better off dead anyway. His tendency to just pile his vote on a growing wagon means the mafia need fewer votes to lynch someone, as they know they can probably rely on dylan to help them out.
If dylan wants me to unvote him he must provide
satisfactory
reasons for each and every vote and unvote that he has placed throughout the game.