Mini 1636: Mafialand Mayhem! - [Game Over]

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:36 am

fixed

In post 124, curiouskarmadog wrote:
so you have seen my posts then right?

In post 118, KatieB wrote:yes?

if you have seen my posts, where is my vote and why?

to be clear, this is coming from this post.

In post 78, KatieB wrote:

Is everyone here yet?

Wake1 · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:38 am

In post 115, KatieB wrote:other way around, buddy.

Hrm...

The plot thickens.

KatieB · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:38 am

Sure. I'm really good at night action analysis as both town and scum, and can usually nail the PRs within the first couple days barring weirdness. I also have a high winrate as scum and a high incidence of catching scum as town, but the point of secret alt was to not have to worry about paranoia. I've been suffering from a lack of confidence and motivation as town lately, and I wanted to take a fresh approach to the game.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:39 am

also....

In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum,

is utter fucking bullshit.

I play emotional..I play hot. I am telling you I do this now...most likely I am going to get fucking super pissed in the game and get angry and emotional (thus my title) am I scum?

MM, are you telling me you have never seen town get emotional or defensive?

KatieB · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:40 am

@ ckd- you're still on your randomvote for ollie. You might be pushing him for not posting, but I dont like the push and I dont see how it's relevant.

KatieB · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:40 am

In post 126, Wake1 wrote:
In post 115, KatieB wrote:other way around, buddy.

Hrm...

The plot thickens.

Hi wake

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:42 am

In post 128, curiouskarmadog wrote:also....

In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum,

is utter fucking bullshit.

I play emotional..I play hot. I am telling you I do this now...most likely I am going to get fucking super pissed in the game and get angry and emotional (thus my title) am I scum?

MM, are you telling me you have never seen town get emotional or defensive?

I said it is indicative, I didn't say it is a 100% indicator. More often than not, scum get emotional and defensive when wagoned more than town do.

Wake1 · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:44 am

In post 103, KatieB wrote:I'm scumreading Wake for focusing on silly stuff like how much fluff should be allowed in a game

In post 123, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 78, KatieB wrote:
This is my third game, so no idea what my strengths are.

wait what? so was this a lie? can you answer his question now?

...

I was never the one focusing on "silly stuff" like how much fluff should be allowed in a game. If you recall, I was answering questions towards me about that. Maybe Luca is right about you misrepresenting things in this game. I gave fair warning about misrepresentation.

Perhaps I should be Scumreading you for lying in this thread and misrepresenting my posts.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:45 am

In post 129, KatieB wrote:@ ckd- you're still on your randomvote for ollie. You might be pushing him for not posting,
but I dont like the push
and I dont see how it's relevant.

soooo...if you know where/why my vote is, why are you asking if everyone is here?

at this point in the game, why dont you like my vote/push?

you clearly been around for awhile so I am trying to figure out if you really believe bolded.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:47 am

In post 131, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 128, curiouskarmadog wrote:also....

In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum,

is utter fucking bullshit.

I play emotional..I play hot. I am telling you I do this now...most likely I am going to get fucking super pissed in the game and get angry and emotional (thus my title) am I scum?

MM, are you telling me you have never seen town get emotional or defensive?

I said it is indicative, I didn't say it is a 100% indicator. More often than not, scum get emotional and defensive when wagoned more than town do.

have you ever seen scum support a vote based on "X is emotional and defensive"...(for your reference, I love to meta).

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:48 am

better question...or question 2.

as scum, have you ever based a vote on "X is emotional and defensive"

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:50 am

In post 134, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 131, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 128, curiouskarmadog wrote:also....

In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum,

is utter fucking bullshit.

I play emotional..I play hot. I am telling you I do this now...most likely I am going to get fucking super pissed in the game and get angry and emotional (thus my title) am I scum?

MM, are you telling me you have never seen town get emotional or defensive?

I said it is indicative, I didn't say it is a 100% indicator. More often than not, scum get emotional and defensive when wagoned more than town do.

have you ever seen scum support a vote based on "X is emotional and defensive"...(for your reference, I love to meta).

Yes, I've seen both, but that doesn't disprove my statement. Katie's wagon has brought about a lot of information in a short period of time, and that alone makes it worthwhile.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:50 am

In post 135, curiouskarmadog wrote:better question...or question 2.

as scum, have you ever based a vote on "X is emotional and defensive"

Not that I'm aware of.

Wake1 · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:51 am

I don't get the feeling that being emotional or defensive is indicative of alignment. Maybe when it comes to meta, but that's typically unreliable. Misrepresentation and hyperbole, I think, are scumtells.

What credible meta do we have on sthar8, if any?

KatieB · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:51 am

Right but where have I been emotional or defensive?

KatieB · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:53 am

In post 133, curiouskarmadog wrote:soooo...if you know where/why my vote is, why are you asking if everyone is here?

Just because you've voted someone doesn't mean they've posted, or are involved in the game yet. I'm not a fan of Day1 lurker pushes before the target has had a chance to engage in the game because it is possible if not probable that the notposting slot just flakes, wasting time and effort.

KatieB · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:55 am

In post 132, Wake1 wrote:was never the one focusing on "silly stuff" like how much fluff should be allowed in a game. If you recall, I was answering questions towards me about that. Maybe Luca is right about you misrepresenting things in this game. I gave fair warning about misrepresentation.

Right but you did spend a considerable amount of time talking about it, when IMO you should have brushed it off. It's a really weak suspicion, but it's there.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:55 am

In post 110, KatieB wrote:I mean, he voted Lapsa for 'fluffposting more than Anen' and 'poorly justifying his vote on Anen' which happened before Anen had even posted, and was pretty clearly a RVS vote. Even if Lapsa had done any of the things Luca was talking about, none of them would be alignment indicative.

He's scumreading me for calling Lapsa probtown, but dollars to doughnuts if I hadn't clarified that my feelings are as strong as p5 allows, he'd be scumreading me for having feelings too strong for day 1.

He's scumreading me for not hopping to answer him (which is not indicative of scum), scumreading me for a misunderstanding of my feelings on my suspects (even if his thoughts were accurate, this would not be indicative of scum), for 'not making any sense' (which is not indicative of scum), and for being dismissive of his reasons for scumreading me (which he hasn't yet presented.)

Pretty obviously scum looking for a day1 mislynch that involves a lot of words but not reasons. As soon as everyone has posted, I'd be glad to turbolynch him.

p-edit: but not having any reasons for scumreading me totally doesn't make his vote OMGUS. Totally.

You have a lot of opinions about how people react to you specifically, but you don't seem interested in finding scum outside of Katie discussion.

KatieB · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:55 am

In post 134, curiouskarmadog wrote:have you ever seen scum support a vote based on "X is emotional and defensive"...(for your reference, I love to meta).

yes yes yes. i've done it.

KatieB · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:56 am

In post 142, MonkeyMan576 wrote:You have a lot of opinions about how people react to you specifically, but you don't seem interested in finding scum outside of Katie discussion.

What?

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:57 am

In post 144, KatieB wrote:
In post 142, MonkeyMan576 wrote:You have a lot of opinions about how people react to you specifically, but you don't seem interested in finding scum outside of Katie discussion.

What?

All of your "scumreads" are in regards to how you feel wrongly attacked.

KatieB · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:58 am

That's factually inaccurate

KatieB · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:59 am

I was scumreading luca before he pushed on me. Wake and Anen have not expressed interest in my lynch. Like, are you even reading the same thread?

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:59 am

Then who do you think are scummy outside of people that have attacked you?

Wake1 · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:59 am

In post 141, KatieB wrote:
In post 132, Wake1 wrote:was never the one focusing on "silly stuff" like how much fluff should be allowed in a game. If you recall, I was answering questions towards me about that. Maybe Luca is right about you misrepresenting things in this game. I gave fair warning about misrepresentation.

Right
but
you did spend a considerable amount of time talking about it, when IMO you should have brushed it off. It's a really weak suspicion, but it's there.

Are you acknowledging that you misrepresented me?

Now is the time to be honest.