Except I talked about that if you're on the bottom of the list go back to the top. But I can see how one might read it that way. I only ordered it for the sake of neatness and to personally make sure I included all 14 players. If you are #10, you are supposed to have analyzed #11 and #12... the two people physically below you.
Your next analysis can be your second analysis, however.
Except I talked about that if you're on the bottom of the list go back to the top. But I can see how one might read it that way. I only ordered it for the sake of neatness and to personally make sure I included all 14 players. If you are #10, you are supposed to have analyzed #11 and #12... the two people physically below you.
Your next analysis can be your second analysis, however.
Pooky and SV were scum. Fritzler protected Pooky and claimed to be Pooky's scumbuddy. Fritzler wanted to kill CTD real bad, (Nightson/Vikingfan/Toaster Strudel), (Olio/StallingChamp/ChannelDelibird), MoS and (VitaminR/DragonsofSummer/Phoebus).
Now on to monowax2.
He wanted to kill MoS, thinks PJ is town. Defended SVscum, favoring VitR and Fritzler for the lynch. Then said he was up for an SV lynch, voted Yos and Frtizler.
I think he might be scum for defending SV, then saying he'd be up for an SV lynch, but then voting for a whole bunch of other people instead.
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Yeah. Below the quick reply box, there's line of options to "Display posts from previous" and then set time period, specific users and the ordering method.
It'll probably be a few more days to do mine. End of financial year work is kicking my ass at the moment, I have enough time to check threads but not to do a serious re-read, and I think a serious re-read, not just a skim, is warranted.
Lowell wrote:Is it narrowminded to think you're innocent?
Be honest. I'm trying to learn.
There's a difference between broad-mindedness and rightness. Your conclusion may be right, but that doesn't mean that your ways were right.
Let me put forth a hypothetical situation:
It's Day 3. Player A claims Player B is town because of his Day 2 behaviour. Player C points out scummy things Player B has done on Days 1 and 3. Player B is lynched, and comes up Mafia.
In this case, Player A will argue that he did not look at Days 1 and 3, and that he therefore failed to see Player B's scumminess, therefore attempting to do off his defense of Player B as a mistake.
Player A is likely Player B's scumbuddy.
Of course, that situation is irrelevant, as I'm town, but an alternate situation is still possible: you're saying I'm town now, but the fact that you focus on only part of my behaviour means that if someone else posts a case against me based on behaviour from other days, you can simply go along even though here and now you're saying I'm town, because you never analyzed the rest.
I believe the point of this little exercise was to make people fortify their positions on other people. A wall ten feet thick is completely irrelevant if there's a huge hole in the middle of it.
He only made posts in September '06, so there's not much to garner
from his contributions. He did make one contribution about not
considering people very cleared just based on their executions, as
evidenced by his experience as scum in the Endgame of KM 1.
He was suspicious of pablito and felt PJ was protown.
Conclusion: Not much to gain from this, but he seems genuine from
what I can tell. (+1 townieness)
Nightson (22 posts):
Rightly suspicious of pablito and phoebus, though he may have been
just picked the easy targets. Protected cardb0ardb0x.
Says that pablito's posts seem strange and not protown, in response
to Ameliaslay calling his reasons flimsy. Asks why being confusing
makes a person protown.
Votes Twomz but can't remember exactly why, due to the crash.
Says MBL is wrong town, Glork is town, PJ is town, has doubts about
pablito
Has a problem with the Yos execution. Votes MBL for saying that
Glork shouldn't try to execute someone the town doesn't agree is
scum, says the post is full of logical fallacies.
Conclusion: Outside of lurking, his posts seem solid and thoughtful.
I'm not finding them scummy. (+1 townieness)
Toaster Strudel (69 posts):
Says PJ and MoS are town. Agrees with Yos' arguments.
Votes DragonsofSummer (aka VitaminR) in agreement with Yos
Says something about LL being masons with Glork, which doesn't make
sense given that there are only scum and townies in the game. Later
clarifies where this came from, quoting LL's post. Votes LL when it
is pointed out that there can't be masons.
Makes about 17 posts Feb 9 - Mar 10, nearly all of which were
one-liners asking for something to happen or praising the mod for
setting a deadline. (-3 townieness)
4 more useless posts on the next day, copies CES' votes for no reason
(CES had no reason, either) (-1 townieness)
Asks why Mnowax is giving Shanba a bad vibe. (+1 townieness)
Votes smashy for no reason. (-1 townieness)
Votes mnowax for no reason. (-1 townieness)
3 more useless posts wanting an execution. (-1 townieness)
Agrees with PJ about mnowax2 (then BM). Thinks RafK/mnowax are town.
(-1 townieness)
Compares my behavior to Bad Idea II, thinks Yos is town, votes myself
and SV. (-1 townieness, why SV?)
Attacks me for explaining my pre-planned playstyle (which was
evidenced by my first post, so this make no sense).
Agrees with Thesp's opening posts.
Votes Der Hammer, SV, VitaminR, and mnowax (apparently in agreement
with Thesp and then PJx3, respectively) (-1 townieness for no
reasoning)
Another 14 mostly useless posts, suddenly wants a Fritzler or SV
execution. (-2 townieness, what happened to VitR? Why Fritz?)
Links a bunch of Fritzler's posts with a little explanation, votes
Fritzler.
Thinks Mnowax2 might be scum for defending SV. (+1 townieness)
Conclusion: I have a lot of questions for TS:
1) Why did you just follow CES's votes (which had no reason) and give
no reason of your own?
2) Why did you vote Smashy without reason?
3) Why did you say that you think mnowax gives bad vibes naturally,
not as scum, and then later vote him without an explanation?
4) Why did you later think mnowax was town again? (these were about
mnowax1).
5) How does my behavior compare to Bad Idea II?
6) Why did you vote SV without giving any reason for it?
7) What reason did you have for voting DH, SV, VitR, and mnowax2?
8) Why was Fritzler one of your preferred lynches, and why did you
not want VitR to be lynched, even though you voted for him?
9) Why is Fritz wanting to kill me evidence of his scumminess, when
you want to kill me as well?
Adding together all 3 of them, -8 townieness. Pending responses to
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Toaster Strudel/Nightson/Vikingfan:
Vikingfan (4 posts):
He only made posts in September '06, so there's not much to garner from his contributions. He did make one contribution about not considering people very cleared just based on their executions, as evidenced by his experience as scum in the Endgame of KM 1.
He was suspicious of pablito and felt PJ was protown.
Conclusion: Not much to gain from this, but he seems genuine from what I can tell. (+1 townieness)
Nightson (22 posts):
Rightly suspicious of pablito and phoebus, though he may have been just picked the easy targets. Protected cardb0ardb0x.
Says that pablito's posts seem strange and not protown, in response to Ameliaslay calling his reasons flimsy. Asks why being confusing makes a person protown.
Votes Twomz but can't remember exactly why, due to the crash.
Says MBL is wrong town, Glork is town, PJ is town, has doubts about pablito
Has a problem with the Yos execution. Votes MBL for saying that Glork shouldn't try to execute someone the town doesn't agree is scum, says the post is full of logical fallacies.
Conclusion: Outside of lurking, his posts seem solid and thoughtful. I'm not finding them scummy. (+1 townieness)
Toaster Strudel (69 posts):
Says PJ and MoS are town. Agrees with Yos' arguments.
Votes DragonsofSummer (aka VitaminR) in agreement with Yos
Says something about LL being masons with Glork, which doesn't make sense given that there are only scum and townies in the game. Later clarifies where this came from, quoting LL's post. Votes LL when it is pointed out that there can't be masons.
Makes about 17 posts Feb 9 - Mar 10, nearly all of which were one-liners asking for something to happen or praising the mod for setting a deadline. (-3 townieness)
4 more useless posts on the next day, copies CES' votes for no reason (CES had no reason, either) (-1 townieness)
Asks why Mnowax is giving Shanba a bad vibe. (+1 townieness)
Votes smashy for no reason. (-1 townieness)
Votes mnowax for no reason. (-1 townieness)
3 more useless posts wanting an execution. (-1 townieness)
Agrees with PJ about mnowax2 (then BM). Thinks RafK/mnowax are town. (-1 townieness)
Compares my behavior to Bad Idea II, thinks Yos is town, votes myself and SV. (-1 townieness, why SV?)
Attacks me for explaining my pre-planned playstyle (which was evidenced by my first post, so this make no sense).
Agrees with Thesp's opening posts.
Votes Der Hammer, SV, VitaminR, and mnowax (apparently in agreement with Thesp and then PJx3, respectively) (-1 townieness for no reasoning)
Another 14 mostly useless posts, suddenly wants a Fritzler or SV execution. (-2 townieness, what happened to VitR? Why Fritz?)
Links a bunch of Fritzler's posts with a little explanation, votes Fritzler.
Thinks Mnowax2 might be scum for defending SV. (+1 townieness)
Conclusion: I have a lot of questions for TS:
1) Why did you just follow CES's votes (which had no reason) and give no reason of your own?
2) Why did you vote Smashy without reason?
3) Why did you say that you think mnowax gives bad vibes naturally, not as scum, and then later vote him without an explanation?
4) Why did you later think mnowax was town again? (these were about mnowax1).
5) How does my behavior compare to Bad Idea II?
6) Why did you vote SV without giving any reason for it?
7) What reason did you have for voting DH, SV, VitR, and mnowax2?
8) Why was Fritzler one of your preferred lynches, and why did you not want VitR to be lynched, even though you voted for him?
9) Why is Fritz wanting to kill me evidence of his scumminess, when you want to kill me as well?
Adding together all 3 of them, -8 townieness. Pending responses to my questions, I would say Ts is probably scum.
I have Lowell (and his predecessor) as being very, very likely to be pro-town. He's done things which are likely to come from pro-town players, and done things which are highly unlikely to have been done by scum.
Zindaras
Zindaras is an odd one in my books. I've found several things he's done to be pro-town (highlighted of course by his execution of scum yesterday), yet there have been some things which have been really "off" for him. His execution/kingship yesterday felt very weird to me, and I've noted that MrBuddyLee attacked him (while few others did, and with some intensity) the day before he was nightkilled.
If I had to choose between the two, it'd be Zindaras. I think there are others more worthy of the chopping block at this time.
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