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pickemgenius Jack the Tripper
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Not much to go on when everyone basicallyCTD wrote:This is the prototype of a lazy scum-analysis, as it steps on as few toes as possible and leaves as little information to trace back as possible.goes after N-L all of day 1, so very little is with me being lazy.ONLY
We don't have alot to reference back to in this game, very little information was attained on day 1, i'm sorry my summary wasn't up to your standards.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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NabakovNabakov LalitaLalita
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Yaaay! It appears CTD has decided to actually join the discussion.
Unvote, but my E continues to be OY for odd behavior on D1.
To adress the case against Papaya/Pickem:
I agree with what you posted about Papaya's vote hopping. It does seem suspicous. His case for Nekka and Hjallti being a scum-pair was also fairly silly.
However, some of the case seems to be clutching at straws. I don't see it as particuarlly suspicous that Papaya made an "oh crap" post after two townies turned up dead. It seems like a perfectly reasonable way to start the day (it would be equally suspicous if he just posted like nothing had happened). Also, because OTM was the most vocal player D1, it might seem to some like he lead the lynch. Papaya hadn't had your helpful analysis when he accused OTM.
In adressing pickem as the replacement, I have mixed feelings about him right now. His posts seem to be short and snappy, but that could be playstyle. I feel he has a point when he says it's difficult to get a read off D1. His argument with BP just seems silly. We should just lynch a killer today, and it doesn't matter which one. I have a hard time envisioning a situation in which we have to decide between lynching a confirmed mafia and a confirmed SK. One or the other would be fine with me.Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
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pickemgenius Jack the Tripper
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Alrighty, here is a quote from somebody.
that basically describes me.HungryJoe from another game wrote: pickemgenius: Terse, but pretty solid. Little to say, but doesn't need to say that much. kind of a low post count, and not too many words, but he does pop in now and again.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
(1:55:11 AM) ahallucinogenic: it's ok drench
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bobbyplump Goon
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pickemgenius Jack the Tripper
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WIFOM.bobbyplump wrote:Having CTD come out and post when he has three or four votes against him does not make him any less suspicious to me.If I were scum, I'd come out of the woodwork too in that situation.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
(1:55:11 AM) ahallucinogenic: it's ok drench
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Off the Mark Mafia Scum
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Hjallti Goon
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While waiting the answers Ivote: ~9NV~. My question was answerable in 30seconds so I don't get the reason he had to think on it till tommorow.[i]"Early experiments in transportation" Gary Larson[/i]
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bobbyplump Goon
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For starters, I think his argument that Papaya's "aw crap" comment is phoney sympathy is pretty weak.
Secondly, OTM WAS the leader behind the charge to lynch N-L. Although others were quick to support him, it's not "factually incorrect" to say OTM led the way.
Finally, what I really meant when posting what I just posted is this: in my opinion, you can't just come out, make one post, then disappear again. Not good enough for me. Unless he's going to be actively involved in this game for an extended period of time, I'm going to keep on his case.-
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CrashTextDummie Mafia Scum
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NabakovNabakov wrote:However, some of the case seems to be clutching at straws. I don't see it as particuarlly suspicous that Papaya made an "oh crap" post after two townies turned up dead. It seems like a perfectly reasonable way to start the day (it would be equally suspicous if he just posted like nothing had happened).
It's not a damning scum-tell, but a scum-tell none-the-less. I've already explained why, there is no point for a townie to do it.bobbyplump wrote:For starters, I think his argument that Papaya's "aw crap" comment is phoney sympathy is pretty weak.
But since the two of you don't think it's such a big deal, maybe you could tell us why youdidn'tcomment on the nightkills the way A Papaya did?
Will do.Off the Mark wrote:Just one more question, though - can you PLEASE explain your lack of content throughout D1?
There were 13 pages by the time you replaced, which is plenty to reference back to. The fact that you think everyone going after N-L is indistinguishable makes me think that you may not have been really looking for scum.pickemgenius wrote:Not much to go on when everyone basically ONLY goes after N-L all of day 1, so very little is with me being lazy.
We don't have alot to reference back to in this game, very little information was attained on day 1, i'm sorry my summary wasn't up to your standards.
It's good to know you have such great confidence in me. Maybe the fact that I mentioned more coming today or tomorrow could have clued you in that I was not planning to disappear again?bobbyplump wrote:in my opinion, you can't just come out, make one post, then disappear again.-
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NabakovNabakov LalitaLalita
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^^ He did say he was working on other posts. Lets wait to see if they materialize before we get back on his case.Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
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Aimee Mafia Scum
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That's a good question. He is giving explanations now, but he gave none at the time.Aimee wrote:Just want to say that I agree completely with CTD's analysis so far. In fact, I don't see him as a big suspect anymore - although some things are still unexplained.
My main question now - why did you vote for A Papaya and FoS Bobbyplumb (something that is still unexplained) but give no reasoning?-
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NabakovNabakov LalitaLalita
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@ CTD: I did comment on the deaths, in post 273 I speculated on SK v. Vig, and wondered who would want to NK Lowell.
Now where has NV9 gotten to?Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
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Hjallti Goon
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I wondered.... after day 1 I had a scummy feeling about Lowell. If I were a Vig I would have killed him, so I think the mafia+Vig setup is certainly possible as well.[i]"Early experiments in transportation" Gary Larson[/i]
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Off the Mark Mafia Scum
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I was planning on finishing the rest of my analysis and answers tonight, but an incident somewhere else on the site has pissed me off so much that I can't concentrate on this game.
You'll have to wait another day, sorry for the inconvenience.[i]Mgm laughed nervously, his cheeks flushing in the faintest of blushes. "Patrick... I only wanted to be with you... that's why I put the game to night, so Glork would get killed."[/i] - the heartwarming conclusion of Face to Face Mafia-
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NabakovNabakov LalitaLalita
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On vacation for the week (Sat-Sat). Access guaranteed, but opportunities to make use of it are not. Expect a couple short/sweet posts.Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
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Hjallti Goon
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Can I ask a newbie question here:
What is likely to get in these kind of games, to get a good balance?
All roles should be pretty plain usual roles, right?
*Suppose we are in a mafia+SK situation then there could be 3mafia+1SK or 2mafia+1SK+some strong townies.
*Suppose we have a Vig then I would think 4mafia + 1vig or 3maf+1vig+8vanilla.
*Suppose we have double mafia (say black and red) it would be 2 black and 2 red.[i]"Early experiments in transportation" Gary Larson[/i]
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Aimee Mafia Scum
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This I am unsure of, but 3mafia and a SK is a bit unbalanced on the anti-town side. Depends on the mod, really.Hjallti wrote:*Suppose we are in a mafia+SK situation then there could be 3mafia+1SK or 2mafia+1SK+some strong townies.
4 Mafia is too many. 3 is more likely, although once again, it depends on the mod.Hjallti wrote:*Suppose we have a Vig then I would think 4mafia + 1vig or 3maf+1vig+8vanilla.
I think the very idea of two mafia in a mini game is unlikely.Hjallti wrote:*Suppose we have double mafia (say black and red) it would be 2 black and 2 red.-
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NabakovNabakov LalitaLalita
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Just assume that the mod has enough sense to not completely unbalance the game, but right now, there are too many variables up in the air to decide if this game is balanced strong town v. strong scum or weak town v. weak scum.Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
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